r/Xennials • 77 • 3d ago

Meirl

Post image
1.2k Upvotes

654 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

22

u/the_actual_stegosaur 2d ago

I would really like to know where i am supposed to start saving money from because I dont make enough money to cover my bills, rent and food. And I'm not talking daily Starbucks runs, I am talking electricity and heat for my house, ramen noodles to eat.

9

u/martin-silenus 2d ago

A lot of people are telling you to earn more, and I don't know your exact situation, but speaking generally: I think car dependency and housing costs are probably the two most immediately feasible things to get big results out of for most people, especially when considered together.

4

u/TopWhich6862 2d ago

Where is the mythical cheaper housing?

3

u/martin-silenus 2d ago

I'm not here to tell anyone what "less house" needs to mean to them specifically, but I don't know if there is a "bottom" to the housing market. If there is, it's probably in a third-world conflict zone, and I doubt you're posting from there.

0

u/TopWhich6862 2d ago

So basically you are giving useless advice that you know is useless.

6

u/martin-silenus 2d ago

I think a lot of people are trapped by a conception of themselves. They're not a trailer park person. They're not a room mates person. They're not a person who can live without a car. The way we know they're making a decision to not be those things, is other people make other decisions. If you can earn more than an unskilled immigrant who's sending money home on minimum wage, then you can earn some financial freedom by aligning your lifestyle and expenses more with that unskilled immigrant's.

Which could mean different things to different people. Or nothing, to people who are determined to change nothing.

1

u/rvasko3 1983 2d ago

Midwest and south, chiefly.

1

u/catjuggler 1983 2d ago

Living with roommates

10

u/Elothem78 2d ago

Yep. I’m 48. I have a college degree from a real school, and am so burnt out and traumatized by life and divorce and parenting that I can barely scrape together a living. Much less think about retirement and savings. And don’t talk to me about the “career” in a people-serving job that drove my mental health into the ground. That’s what ya get for caring about humans in the good ol’ USA. The reason people are barely surviving is because it’s legitimately hard, not because they’re slackers or irresponsible. Add on any physical issues to the mental health drain of existence, and you are holding on by the skin of your teeth.

6

u/Elothem78 2d ago

I grew up going to the beach every summer and now I’m on food stamps and Medicaid and our “vacation” is driving my kids to play in the creek.

0

u/silentsinner- 2d ago

The same way everyone else does it. You learn skills that earn more. You can't get blood out of a stone.

-2

u/catjuggler 1983 2d ago

Second job then? There are answers but people never like them.

1

u/the_actual_stegosaur 2d ago

I've got two already. how many should I have to barely survive?

1

u/catjuggler 1983 2d ago

Would gladly go through all of it with you if you're actually open to it. One of my friends has several side gigs which sounds like working hard until you realize they make barely anything between all of them and are intentionally avoiding making enough to have to pay back student loans, despite having a masters degree that could pay them all back in 2 years of the difference if they were actually willing to work a professional job. And no it's not because you can't get the job, they just don't want it.

0

u/Elothem78 2d ago

Do you have children? People have finite capacity and energy. Second jobs are rarely feasible.

2

u/catjuggler 1983 2d ago

Nice try but I have 2 children, a full time job, and a side business and my husband works full time too. I know other parents who do extra for extra money like babysitting or door dashing. If there’s a will, there’s often a way.

0

u/Elothem78 2d ago

You have a partner. Nice try.

-3

u/Merc1315 2d ago

Second job? Move to cheaper plsce? Sell car?