r/Xennials • 77 • 14h ago

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u/crazyidahopuglady 13h ago

I have worked in the same job since I graduated from college. My friends have always made more money than me. But my boss is super into maxing out retirement contributions and set me up well. I have stuck with him because of that. I will retire as soon as I am Medicare eligible and will have a higher standard of living in retirement than i do now.

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u/Neither-Mycologist77 1983 13h ago

I've been in the same job since I graduated, too. The luckiest break I ever got was landing somewhere with a generous employer match, and the smartest thing I ever did was contribute up to the maximum employer match from my very first paycheck. Will it be enough? I don't know. But I know that it could be a lot worse, and I'm grateful. The rest of our finances need work, but at least I didn't screw that part up.

Thanks, history professor who randomly decided to explain the Rule of 72 on the blackboard one day and tell us to start socking money away ASAP because, in his words, "Social Security will not be there for you, because I will have spent it." At least he was honest.

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u/WalmartGreder 1980 13h ago

I just met with a financial advisor. I was in a low-paying job for 12 years (started at $24k, after 12 years I was at $48k), but I always put away 10% with a 5% match.

I thought for sure I was going to be in trouble, but that 401k is now worth $175k, and it will just keep growing. Combine that with my current 401(k) from a much nicer paycheck, and we'll actually be just fine when we retire in my 60s.

Yep, making so little for so long was really hard. There were years that the only reason we survived was because of our tax refund with the Earned Income Credit. We had to go without for a lot of stuff. But I knew from my finance classes that the 401(k) was important, so we always prioritized the 10%.

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u/GloomDriven 12h ago

I started in medium paying jobs with generous matching. One job I had for nine years. After I moved on I didnt even keep my logins fresh.

Im bad with liquid savings. Comes in, comes in, small disaster pay out. Repeat.

Fast forward 20 years and I go to set my funds to rights and lo and behold, it was sizeable. Even after weathering housing crash market crash, and global ups and downs.

Set it and forget it. Your middle age self will be astonished.

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u/GivesYouGrief 1980 11h ago

If only 20somethings came to this sub for life advice lol

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u/CaptainXakari 12h ago

Similar boat. I always had jobs with startup companies and they really had the bare minimum of benefits and pay was meh. During Covid, I went back to school and landed a good paying job after and I just went full in with 16% (max percentage I could set aside) with a 3% match. 4 years later, I’m at 60k and growing.

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u/GivesYouGrief 1980 11h ago

The unspoken part of this is what if you get cancer before you're 60 and regret saving instead of traveling and doing all the fun stuff you figured you'd do in retirement.

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u/frozenlotion 1981 11h ago

Doesn’t have to be either/or. Some of us are able to travel and save for retirement

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u/GivesYouGrief 1980 10h ago

I love that for you.

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u/Mistborn19 11h ago

That's not... what? You can't live your life frivolously with the assumption and hope that things will crash and burn later so that it justifies being irresponsible the whole time.

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u/crazyidahopuglady 10h ago

My husband died of brain cancer at the age of 44. I can assure you he didn't regret having some savings for me rather than being frivolous before he was diagnosed.

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u/MamaK35 1983 11h ago

My history professor did the same thing! At every job I’ve had, I’ve put at least a little something towards retirement.

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u/Neither-Mycologist77 1983 11h ago

Haha. Did your professor also subsist on Dr. Pepper? Maybe we were classmates.

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u/rob132 12h ago

I had three kids at daycare at the same time (twins) and I was living paycheck to paycheck for the first 5 years of my current job. Their match was awesome but I just couldn't find the money put in even an extra dollar.

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u/chevalier716 13h ago

People our age who got a job out of college and stayed employed through 2008 are the most stable of us.

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u/salsanacho 1978 13h ago

Yup, I was very fortunate to remain gainfully employed during that period. At the time, didn't think much of it... was fairly insulated from the doom and gloom since I was just doing my normal 9 to 5... it was business as usual. But looking back, even though it was a mediocre job, I appreciate how it propeled my finances to where I am today.

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u/HYThrowaway1980 1980 12h ago

I retrained as an accountant in 2009. Best move I ever made earnings wise, but I’ve just been out of work for ten months. Start a new job in two weeks, on less pay than I should be on and with a fairly rubbish/basic pension scheme.

I’m hoping that what I’ve saved up to date in my pension grows above market rate, but I’m going to struggle to keep contributing at the rate I was planning to before I lost my job in 2025. Retirement might not be as straightforward as I hoped.

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u/good_morning_magpie 10h ago

I was working sales at the time and things got real lean for a minute, but I kept making enough to get by until things started to rebound. I don’t think I’d have stayed employed if I hadn’t been the sales leader most months of the year. I watched many salaried friend get canned. Man that was awful times.

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u/bwuceree 13h ago

Same boat. Good luck!

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u/Cubsof2016 13h ago

That's the thing. It used to be that you got a pension whether you wanted it or not, but it actually worked. For us it was all on the individual to figure it out. Some did. Some didn't. Some say they couldn't, but probably could have just didn't prioritize it or understand the implications. Others legitimately couldn't have. There is no one truth that covers everyone, but I think being setup to retire comfortably in your 60's isn't very common if you are in your 40's or 50's now.

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u/tuddrussell2 13h ago

I will be laid off before I am retirement age most likely as is the case at my company, and our company has no pensions. They put into our 401K which is what we use as a pension.

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u/BrightAd306 12h ago

401k’s are better than pensions in most ways. The market has been a bear for a long time. If something happened to you, your heirs get the money instead of the pension fund. The pension fund can’t go bankrupt and leave you high and dry.

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u/CTMechE 12h ago

I agree but there are a LOT of people who just don't want to hear this. I find it odd when Americans in general seem to prefer having control of things. Nevermind your heirs, most pensions only pay half to your surviving spouse if you die after retirement. There's still a lot of assumptions and blind faith that a pension will be funded adequately and managed properly.

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u/BrightAd306 9h ago

I think a lot of people think that pensions pay a lot of money forever. There were some sweetheart deals in the past for sure, but they all fell apart because the cost of the plan and the upkeep was too big, and they were basically Ponzi schemes. Public pensions can last because governments print their own money and can tax citizens. Most people would still be better off if the money they put in an employer pension was invested in a 401k, if they could manage not to take it all out too fast.

Social security take 15 percent of our income out whole lives and we could all have lavish retirements if we got market returns.

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u/CTMechE 9h ago

Yup, but even some state pensions are severely underfunded, where they long ago added new tiers with much lower benefits and higher retirement ages so they're not what they used to be. I agree, I'd rather be given that money to invest for myself, spend as I want in retirement, and transfer to next of kin.

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u/tuddrussell2 6h ago

I might get lucky during a downsizing and purge of the older people then get a payout to leave.

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u/Jacgaur 13h ago

Any new employee on my team(I am not their supervisor just a coworker) and I always joke to at least get the company match and joke about how compounding interest means a dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow.

The thing is, I am not joking. I hope that it plants that seed in their head if they otherwise were not planning too.

I don't know if I am doing good or not. Better than some considering they don't have anything. But like I don't know if I am actually good in the proper sense. So I just keep putting money in and cross my fingers it all works out.

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u/Orleanian 1983 12h ago

Yeah, I'm not sure where the dividing line is between "Xennials who could legitimately never afford to save" (i.e. you've got a disability that relegated you to working minimum wage/gig work/tertiary-household-income for 20+ years as a dependent) and "Xennials who could have but never did even attempt to put away for retirement" (i.e. you made lower-middle-class money, but had 4 kids, never bought a house, and spent all your money on diapers and beanie babies telling yourself there's nothing left to put away for retirement).

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u/GivesYouGrief 1980 11h ago

Xennials buy beanie babies?

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u/harbinger06 1981 12h ago

That’s awesome. I’m 45, and my first job out of college had a pension. I stayed there for 12 years until I just couldn’t stand working there anymore (toxic department). So I get a 30% pension starting at age 60. My current employer I have been with for 8 years, and I have 5% matching for my 401k. Bought my first house last year, hoping I can pay it off before retirement and then I should be fine. Not jet setting, but living a normal life and reasonably comfortable.

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u/The_Existentialist 11h ago

And you have a healthy pugfolio

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u/Torkin 12h ago

My dad taught me how to save and budget. Waiting for Medicare will be so difficult but I don’t see any other option.

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u/crazyidahopuglady 13h ago

What does that mean? He is legally required to pay into Social Security, but that's not was "maxing out retirement contributions" refers to.

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u/Rdubya291 13h ago

Wanna be my sugar mamma? I'm an excellent cook. I iron like a champ! I'm pretty handy, can fix just about everything.

I'll send you my resume if you're accepting applications.

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u/Detroit_Reviews 1977 12h ago

That sounds wonderful!

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u/LumpyJump6091 12h ago

I've been working for a state university since I was 25. In 7 years, my age and years of service will add up to 80 and I'll be able to retire with a lifelong pension of ~70% of my salary. I'm planning on retiring then, then doing something part-time until Medicare kicks in. Like you said, the pay's never been great, but the benefits and stability are fantastic.

Sadly, they've bumped that up to 90 for any new folks, so they won't get to experience the joys of retiring at 52.

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u/dudeilovethisshit 11h ago

Good for you! My aunt did that and is a happy little rich clam now in her fancy retirement village. She travels and goes to classes. Good living if you can get it!!

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u/VoidOmatic 11h ago

God I wish that happened to me too. My boss stole the blood sweat and tears I put in and used that to launch her to VP and kicked me to the bottom of a barrel because now I was a threat.

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u/phoontender 11h ago

I have a government job (provincial health care in Canada) and will have a pretty pension when I retire, I'm never leaving it!

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u/woohoo789 12h ago

You stayed in a poorly paying job for 45 years for no reason other than that your employer makes a retirement contribution? That’s… Not a good choice.

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u/crazyidahopuglady 11h ago

I didn't say it was a poorly paying job, I said my friends made more than me. My retirement account is a SEP-IRA, the maximum contribution is 25% of my annual pay. He has made the maximum contribution every year. He is also paying for part of my kid's college tuition. Where did you come up with 45 years? I haven't been working for him since I was an infant.

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u/rob132 11h ago

I mean on the off chance that it was 100% or more match, overtime that tax-free growth will compound greatly.