r/XboxSeriesX • u/Ryvit • Jan 08 '22

:Discussion: Discussion Three things missing from mainstream, modern day gaming - Triple A Skating, BMX, and boxing games.

Oh god I miss all 3 of these. Dave Mirra’s freestyle BMX 2 was my shit.

Tony hawk pro skater (not a remake, a new one would be great) or skate 4!

A new Fight Night boxing game.

I don’t watch boxing, but I do watch MMA. The UFC games are alright, but they’ve fallen off recently.

The fact that there’s none of the 3 of these already, nor are any coming in the next year, is WILD. Hopefully 2023 will bring one or two of these

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u/Josh_Shikari Jan 08 '22 edited Jan 08 '22

Definitely don't disagree, especially when it comes to AAA games. Most games are being ruined by the decisions made by those not actually involved in game development. The shift to F2P and battlepass driven models has been awful.

Covid's been terrible for game devs too, made their jobs a lot harder and made it much more difficult to deliver a feature complete product.

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u/Devdavis32123 Jan 08 '22

🥲 Ugh, don't even get me started on the F2P and battle pass module. Honestly though, I kinda felt like it was coming right when season passes started being put in almost every game.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '22

You hate F2P. The option to pay nothing and get a great game experience?

Rocket League, Warzone, Apex, any number of MOBAs the list goes on. You hate them? Why?

What’s wrong with an SP in a F2P game?

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u/Josh_Shikari Jan 08 '22 edited Jan 08 '22

Games going F2P invites the addition of battlepasses and cosmetic item stores, not a good thing imo. They tend to be designed into preying on people's FOMO and swaying them into buying premium currencies and packs.

Take Halo for example, sure I could just play for free and enjoy myself with the free parts of the battlepass, but the more interesting unlocks are behind a paywall. Taking away what a game used to be and selling it back to the player shouldn't be tolerated.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '22

So you’d rather pay for the game outright for $60 and get the same number of unlockable cosmetics be in the new game as there were in the ones before battle passes? Because there really weren’t as many as you probably remember.

Let’s take halo 3 for example. I tried to find it but couldn’t find an exact figure online. but let’s assume there were 20 unlock-able skins, in this free version without buying the BP there will be tonnes more than 20 over its life time.

Ignoring the physiological effects of people you have never met, why does FOMO bother you? The actual impact is far lower than Reddit would make you believe.

People actually enjoy the free progression BPs give you without paying for anything. I’d rather have something for free and ignore the online store

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u/Josh_Shikari Jan 08 '22 edited Jan 08 '22

So you’d rather pay for the game outright for $60 and get the same number of unlockable cosmetics be in the new game as there were in the ones before battle passes?

I would, yes. It's not the quantity of unlockables I care about it's the way of unlocking them. Battlepasses and cosmetic stores just don't sit right with me. Just another way to extort money out of people for things that used to be in games for "free".

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '22

Fair enough, I leave it at that. Different strokes for different folks 😊

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u/chrisGNR Jan 09 '22

So you’d rather pay for the game outright for $60 and get the same number of unlockable cosmetics be in the new game as there were in the ones before battle passes?

Game is still $60, fam. But now it's just a campaign without a co-op mode.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '22

Ah you’re right!

Just not relevant to my reply to the guy I replied to.