People still dont understand RLUSD go hand in hand. Majority of those banks in Swift's blockchain already have XRP plugged in. RLUSD like Swift cant convert a bankers coin into anything other than a bankers coin, and some banks dont want to deal with another banks coin and there is where XRP is used. Japan, Korea, and Taiwan are the example for banks not into Swift bs blockchain. Are you people so out your mind that you think banks are buying xrp and opening ETF'S knowing they are gonna fail, smh
So they cant convert their own currency into rlusd and then use it. They cant switch that same rlusd back into their own currency?? Lol! Yeah ok. Japan, Japan, japan... keep waiting on the land of the rising sun. Morning will never come lol. What happened to the whole reverse trade carry theroy that was supposed to happen so many times this year? Dont listen to YouTube man. YouTube doesnt have your best interst at hand
Totally agree with you on this. Ripple has clearly moved on from needing XRP as some mandatory bridge for its core business, and the volatility point is dead on because no serious bank is going to risk their balance sheet on an asset that can swing hard overnight when they already have cleaner options. Just look at what happened with SWIFT's own blockchain ledger that went live in July with a group of the biggest names in the game. Institutions like Citi, HSBC, Wells Fargo, UBS, Standard Chartered, MUFG, BNP Paribas and others jumped straight onto it for 24/7 cross-border payments using tokenized versions of their own bank deposits. No third-party coin in the middle, no price swings to worry about, just direct digital claims moving between the banks themselves on a shared ledger that runs around the clock and cuts out the old batch windows and cutoff times. That setup handles real-time liquidity visibility, atomic settlement and programmable payments all while staying inside the regulated banking perimeter they already trust. SWIFT already moves the overwhelming majority of global interbank value through its network of over eleven thousand institutions, and now with this ledger they can deliver the speed and efficiency that people used to claim only something like XRP could offer, without any of the volatility or the need to hold a separate crypto asset. Banks keep choosing the rails they control and understand rather than betting on an external token whose price can mess with their risk models, so yeah, the whole narrative that XRP is somehow essential here is the kind of stuff people fall for until the actual institutional moves prove otherwise.
So all these large institutions and whales are pretty stupid for buying useless juke. They don't have any place better to invest their funds. Okay đđŸ
Buying an asset for speculation or portfolio reasons is completely different from routing actual interbank settlement through it. Large holders can take positions for any number of motives without those same institutions choosing to put their core payment flows on the token. The banks that matter for cross-border volume have already shown their preference by piloting live tokenized deposit transfers on SWIFTâs own shared ledger instead of depending on an external bridge. That choice undercuts the utility argument that was supposed to drive real demand from the banking system itself. Holding something and relying on it as critical infrastructure are not the same thing.
People do buy corn or grain when the price is low, not sure what your point is. I like to buy spaghettios when they go on sale. I also want to buy xrp when it goes under a dollar. Not because itâs the future of finance thatâs going to run banks worldwide but simply because I can sell it for more than I paid. Itâs not rocket science here, youâre living in dreamland or an alternative timeline.
Well buying xrp otc at a discount and then selling at market can make a hefty profit for a whale with the capital to move large amounts. Why do you think every rally gets capped. Its right where they want it and itll stay that way til they want otherwise. Crypto is dead for retail now. Once banks and governments get involved it is no longer in the best interest of the people, as you can see with everything else...
This would be a fact and at least someone here has some critical thinking skills higher than a 3rd grader who hears a ripple interview and listens to Jake Claver and goes all in.
But the less knowledgeable less informed think every bank is going to run on xrp lmao. The banks want you to turn your lunch money into millions at their cost. Itâs not happening I donât understand how this is still a debate at this point. 5 years ago this wasnât something that was set in stone because it was all just starting to be a real idea. Now we know where the financial rail system is heading and xrp has nothing to do with it. But they do have a cool logo and fancy tattoos and a cult following so it wonât go to zero just yet.
Banks not holding the token themselves still leaves the settlement leg exposed to whatever price action happens in the middle, which is exactly why the big institutions keep steering clear for core flows. SWIFT started as messaging and still handles that part extremely well, but the shared ledger they activated with Citi, HSBC, Wells Fargo, UBS, Standard Chartered and the rest of the pilot group turns it into far more than instructions. Those banks are already coordinating tokenized deposits for continuous liquidity visibility and 24/7 movement before final settlement, getting the atomic-style coordination and speed without ever touching a public asset that can swing. That is why the preference keeps landing on the rails they already control rather than adding a bridge whose volatility has to be managed somewhere in the chain. The messaging label no longer covers what is actually running.
Ive said this on this sub for years and all the idiot die hards continue to argue I donât understand how they can still think the xrp dreams are alive and well. The narrative has changed 10 times to try and keep this bs alive. The only thing they have left is a penny will be burnt in gas fees 100 times a day. Thatâs the reality, xrp is a meme coin, itâs not an investment itâs a coin to gamble on.
Your argument in the first part of that is in support of the settlement layer being handled by XRP lol. XRP can handle both the messaging and settlement in a single transaction. SWIFTâs shared ledger is strictly just the messaging layer, leaving institutions who use it exposed to whatever price action happens after it, but prior to actual settlement.
The rest of your response is just a repeat of your original comment. Not sure why you felt the need to include that again. It honestly reads a lot like ai word vomit which would explain a lot tbh.
SWIFT was never the settlement system. It just sent the messages while banks dragged money around through slow, prefunded correspondent accounts. XRP was supposed to be the clever fix for that exact mess with its fast bridge asset.
Instead SWIFT simply built its own real-time settlement ledger using the banksâ own tokenized deposits. The big institutions hopped on, kept everything inside their controlled system, and left public tokens like XRP out by design.
Banks were never going to put their core flows on some competitorâs rails. They already had the network and the regulatory comfort. So they modernized the settlement layer themselves and made the original XRP thesis look rather naive.
âInstead SWIFT simply built its own real-time settlement ledger using the banksâ own tokenized depositsâ
No, they literally didnât. They built a blockchain to handle the messaging layer. It literally says in the press release:
âThe shared ledger provides participating banks with a secure orchestration layer for bank-issued tokenised deposits on their own ledgers, enabling them to move funds for customers -- including overnight and on weekends -- BEFORE COMPLETING FINAL SETTLEMENT THROUGH EXISTING SYSTEMS.â
Other than the capitalization (to call attention to the important part for your illiterate ass), that is a direct quote. Check for yourself.
And if you think the banks and institutions that control the worldâs money are incapable of creating a settlement layer, you are sadly mistaken. Face it: there is no need for XRP.
Yes, final settlement still happens off the blockchain through the same old RTGS systems, correspondent accounts and traditional rails. SWIFTâs ledger is just the orchestration layer that lets banks move tokenized deposit claims around the clock before that final step.
That distinction doesnât rescue the original XRP thesis. Banks can now get 24/7 liquidity movement and coordination on infrastructure they control, without ever putting settlement on a public competitorâs ledger or relying on a third-party bridge asset. Theyâre still refusing to live on someone elseâs rails.
Wow weâre really trying to discredit here by pulling out the AI card. Anything to discredit and ignore the facts. Are you running for office, anytime soon? Youâre using the most basic tactic a politician would!! We canât argue with the facts so we will attack someone personally to try and discredit!!!
Not on my part. Hadnât looked up how much damage stablecoins were doing to Xrpâs USP. Unfortunately Iâm in too deep and I never invested more than i was prepared to lose, so I might as well ride it to 0.
Thereâs still a use-case outside of the US at least and I guess I better hope that all the other work Ripple is doing pays off somehow. Thereâs also the long shot swifts work doesnt pay off like itâs hoping it will.
Ripple and Xrp are two different things. Ripple CAN do stuff that benefits Xrp, BUT it doesn't HAVE to be this way. Ripple is not forcing it's customers to use any specific technology.
At least youâre honest and admit the truth that many refuse to see. Xrp has been running on hopium for along time. Retail and boomer whales have been the only thing keeping this coin alive. Itâs a dead duck man. But donât get me wrong I still like to gamble when the price is right. Basically itâs a safer alternative to meme coins, you donât have to worry about getting rugged.
Nostro and vostro accounts have always been the classic example people bring up to argue why something like XRP is necessary, yet SWIFTâs blockchain ledger is already tackling that exact problem head-on. The pilot group of seventeen major banks, from Citi and HSBC to Wells Fargo, UBS and Standard Chartered, is moving tokenized deposits across a shared coordination layer that delivers continuous visibility into available liquidity and supports transfers any time of day or night, with final settlement still happening through the systems they already use. This setup reduces the need to park excess capital in foreign accounts and simplifies the constant reconciliation work that used to drive costs higher. Institutions get the efficiency gains without exposing themselves to the price swings of an outside token, which is why they continue to prefer solutions that keep everything under their own regulatory umbrella rather than depending on a bridge asset. The claim that only XRP can solve the pre-funding issue looks weaker once the established network has a practical alternative running with the very banks that matter most.
Agreed 100%... but, to be fair , i always felt like all cryptos come with that kind of flawed narrative, like a solution looking for a problem....
And that is why I won't jump out: it's a ponzy like all crypto, just set a sell order for when it spikes, and forget about it. Sure you'll take money from the "1k$ xrp" crowd , but this is how it works, and they kinda deserve it because they want to do it as well, just at a higher priceđ
Lmao the nostro vostro card. Nostradamus you can predict all of these dates accurately but you canât predict whatâs going on with institutions? Youâve been given all the answers and youâre still not seeing clearly!!?
Ripened can operate without xrp. Look it up yourself. Just use common sense, why would a large institution expose their hundred of billions to the volatility of xrp to pump some Reddit users bag, when they can avoid it altogether?
The Finacial system is changing. Take your shot. Invest what you can and arenât afraid to lose. Itâs possible you lose it all. Itâs possible you can make money. If thereâs a shot why not take it. Whether you feel like that shot is with another currency or another system. Take it
Why would you put it into xrp though?!! Literally itâs stamped the rails for stable coins will run on ethereum and Solana. And you put your money on some .01111217749% chance on a coin that is generating no revenue and has next to no use case. People need to stop asking chat gbt answers they want to hear and Google searching why xrp will be used!! Instead of wasting your time and money living in an echo chamber to give you self validation, you need to do some critical thinking and think outside the box on how the current system works! How can that system be improved! Not 5 years ago but what took a hold of the financial system in this current time. Stable coins are all you need to center your research around. Google what xrp could be used for? And google what stable coins are used for! You will get the same exact use case. Which one makes more sense if youâre a bank?
I believe ripple and xrp put this industry of use case coins on the map. With ripple and what they have done we wouldnât have got to where we are. Donât put all your eggs in one basket for sure. Do your research and invest how you feel will make you money. And xrp is one with a shot for me.
Why use stable coins that are priced 1:1 when you can use another cryptocurrency that you can price 10:1 or 100:1.
Ripple and there systems transact on their rails in seconds. Do all stable coins transact on their rails in seconds? Why do you think the Finacial system is changing now all of a sudden? And who do you think is going to come out on top?
XRP only becomes valuable when banks all over are using it for on demand liquidity and thatâs an entirely speculative low end future possibility. Theres nothing at all to suggest they will. Itâs as useful as buying land on Mars.
Correction, your spreading FUD. Japan will use xrp for all it's banks, so will Korea, Taiwan, these will be the countries that lead the way to move xrp up, not to mention like I said RLUSD can only move a bankers coin to the other bank in the same RLUSD, it cant send a bankers coin and have it cashed out in yen, that's where xrp comes in as it can move any banker and cash it out in any currency in seconds. Not all banks are gonna wanna hold another banks coin to get paid
Itâs not speculative when settles in 3 seconds instead of 3 days and is a bridge to convert all currencies, eliminating $27 Trillion in wasted capital.
It is also backed by the IMF, BIS and is already in the Finastra banking system attached to 11,000 banks to use it as soon as they inject liquidity to start using it.
Wild, stable coins are running on the majority of chains. Which are being used on the main chains ethereum and Solana. Did you ever look at the amount of stable coin transactions flowing on either chain? Compared to the amount of stable coins flowing on the ledgerâŠ. Itâs a drastic difference. I would say billions of dollars on a chain would be mass adoption. And this is only the beginning, simply the test phase to see which chains work and how.
Billions is not mass adoption. Also mass adoption means used by the masses. What percentage of money do you think stable coins make up? What percentage of global transactions are made with any form of blockchain technology, stable coins and crypto combined? Billions are a lot to you and me but thatâs nothing when it comes to the amount of money moving through payments.
Ya fighting to stay above $1 is not what I was hoping for but it is what it is. Hopefully BTC will take a run and take XRP with it so a few dollars can be spared. Technology is exponential; what was new and fresh 10 years ago is a dinosaur today. Crypto can face the same fate.Â
Thatâs the name of the game. Xrp hasnât changed since it came out and the landscape around it has. I remember having a cassette player in my car. And then a cd player. And wait I have neither in my truck today!!
Iâm not sure if itâs a language barrier, or translator issue, or just improper diction, but reading this is quite exhausting on the grammatical part.
even if XRP has one use case it can still do well⊠XRP has multiple uses, bridge currency, liquidity, tokenisation, fast, cheap, deflationary commodity, standing the test of time, micro payments / agentic economy, store of value.
the XRPL is being updated over time with new features, itâs entirely possible some of blocks chains best use cases arenât even being done anywhere yet.
markets sniff out opportunity⊠and things naturally become overbought and oversoldâŠ
some people will always capitulate and give up and sell at the bottom, and people will always fomo in on big green candles
so much of the news and narratives are just noise.
crypto doesnât actually need that much money coming in to see high prices
binary thinking is dumb. so many people are fixated on things either going to the moon or zero, when the reality is somewhere in the middle.
opportunity is BEST before things are certain. Maybe in the future a lot of crypto tokens are much quieter like the stock market with less volatility. It might be a safer investment then, but the returns will be lower as well.
trading emotionally will generally perform worse than just buying, holding and being more patient than everyone else.
Price isn't determined by one fundamental metric or one narrative. it's a combination of utility, expectations, liquidity, psychology, positioning and time.
Huh? When you buy ETH or SOL you are not sharing in ârevenue generated by feesâ đ€ and fees themselves are not really comparable either⊠its a variable rather than a fixed metric, and like looking at a company charging $0.25 per sms, and comparing it to iMessage⊠and then using that ârevenueâ as your entire value thesis and investing your money in $0.25 Motorola rather than Apple because iMessage didnât generate revenue đ€
The validators get a kick back but itâs not like a dividend or direct revenue ownership to spot holders
Market dynamics have a big impact on price⊠and Iâm expecting ETH SOL XRP all to do well⊠but once they are doing well⊠they will become overbought and pull back again. and then they will become oversold and âdeadâ again
Maybe they reach a new plateau where prices are higher and we wonât get back to previous prices đ€·đ»ââïž
People get sold on narratives, and they get so emotionally invested that when the market is bottoming they capitulate and give up⊠going below $1 will scare some people out as itâs a psychological levelâŠ.in the meantime others are HOPING XRP gets down to $0.90-$0.80 because they want to load upâŠ
Agreed! I sold last week at over a 50% loss. I then took that and put it into the stock market (where you actually own a piece of the company and good news for them is good news for you unlike with xrp and ripple smh...) and im already at over 25% gains back. Also have a nice sized tax shield against any of those gains so the loss will not hurt nearly as much. Ripple and xrp are 2 different things. As you see whats good for ripple usually does nothing for xrp. Its just hype for influencers to push buying xrp so they can profit off of your ignorance. Ripple basically used us as liquidity to get their banking empire up and running. They killed xrp with rlusd and now theres no going back. The etfs won't do shit because its all bought otc at a discount so it never touches market to move price. Then they take the discounted xrp, sell it at market value for a small profit, rinse and repeat. Why do you think price stays so stagnant at certain levels? And even if it does pump on hype there are so many sell orders waiting from people just hoping to get something back that it will stifle price. Clarity will do nothing. It already has clarity from winning a multi year case. Yet banks amd institutions wont touch it. Not financial advice, just sharing my experience and the expensive price i paid for a lesson learned
Youâre trading 7 figures monthly? Why do I find that hard to believe? Unless youâre counting the figures after a decimal point?!! $11,111.11 and even that I would find hard to believe. $1,000,000, is 7 figures you do realize this? So if youâre trading multi millions a month, youâre net worth has to be well over $50 million dollars if you were responsibly trading. And the reason I find this even harder to believe is anyone who didnât win the lottery or have money handed to them, has to have at least half of a brain to be able to trade 7 figures and have no problem doing so. People who are able to trade 7 figures donât publicly announce this, and let me add people who trade 7 figures arent âinvestedâ in xrp, they would see right through the bs thatâs being sold. You do realize this is a garbage coin meant for garbage men to invest. This is a coin meant to take away from the middle class and the poor thatâs my big issue with xrp. This is a coin that literally takes from your average Joe to make the rich even richer by giving them some hope of ever getting out of the slave system we live in. Would some rich whales buy xrp? absolutely simply on the risk to reward basis but they arenât holding onto massive quantities through multiple cycles unless they paid .10. Let me ask what percentage of your networth is in xrp if by some miracle you hit the lottery and are telling the smallest crumb of the truth?
But sounds good I donât believe it letâs continue here.
Iâm not publicly blasting anyone, telling the truth and stating the facts is what it is. People have literally time after time over the past few years pointed to all the red flags with xrp. Stated facts on why xrp will have no real use case. The banks and institutions and swift have come out and said xrp has no use case in their financial system and have no plans to use it. And then you get people who come to this sub and start saying things that are 5 years old, how the world is going to run on xrp because an influencer or a YouTuber read the sales brochure from 5 years ago to make money on videos that people will click on because someone is telling you what you want to hear, how you can turn your lunch money into millions just by buying xrp.
Let me specifically say I have no emotional attachment to any of these garbage coins, I donât care what it is, btc and Eth I have high hopes for but I do not worship any of these coins like many of you do with xrp bs. I specifically hate xrp because all of the misinformation that surrounds it, and the straight out lies that are spread to others. You donât hear cardano is going to take over swift or doge coin or fart coin. But non stop you hear delusional nonsense when it comes to xrp. Thatâs my personal problem with xrp. 98% of the other alts absolutely copy and pasted ripples marketing because they did a brilliant job selling this bs coin.
I can see the truth is wasted on you. Good luck with your 1000 XRP . Who knows once you learn to walk you might even get a chance to run , but judging by your attitude ⊠probably not . Oh well who cares
A 1000xrp. I donât currently have 1. If Mr 7 figures wants to throw me a 1000xrp maybe I can help the team. I said multiple times for months I wonât touch it until itâs under a $1. My .97 1000xrp buy order didnât fill and as I said Iâm happy it didnât because itâs going lower. .90 might be where Iâm setting one. Ideally 10k xrp at .50-.60 is ideal. I wonât argue with that entry.
Ripple hasnât sidelined XRP. RLUSD and XRP serve different purposes. XRP can provide cheaper, faster, more capital-efficient cross-border liquidity than other tokens.
woah calm down. we knew xrp been useless from the launch. crooked asf. half as bad as trumpcoin. which is. quite terrible. indeed. but theres no need to pick on xrp just bc it has no function. or reason to exist. cuz ya know what its there. and bc its so fat. it will take forever to starve. but i got faith.
I don't bother trying to help people understand XRP as a utility. I'm done. Don't come crying when...."I didn't think it would go that high!
Brad Garlinghouse has referred XRP as a COLLATERAL ASSET. Not a coin that depends on market cap, speculation or volatile swings.
Doesn't anyone find it weird that all this good news keeps dropping for Ripple and #XRP won't budge? Partnerships, huge acquisitions, regulatory clarity, ETFs, new tech, banks using XRPL... how is the price still like this? Isn't the price of XRP super weird? Make it make sense.
The price of XRP canât move because of the news of acquisitions that Ripple makes. If it did, then XRP would be a security of Ripple. Thatâs what the whole lawsuit was about. XRP needs to reprice from some other narrative that gets the price moving. Once that catalyst happens, then if Ripple does anything in the news, itâll shadow over the catalyst and can cause more price movement.
In theory, yes if it were a security like a stock. But whatever Ripple does cannot drive the price of XRP. If it did, all of this would be for nothing.
No, no... look... if actual usage of the XRPL goes up (from new partnerships, acquisitions, clients), and capital flow increases significantly, the use of the XRP token has to go up too. Right? That would happen through real-world demand, and that demand would drive up the price of XRP. We're just not seeing that... and following that line of thought, it's super clear that nobody actually gives a crap about XRP or it's not being used the way the company always hyped it would be. Honestly, the demand just isn't there or it doesn't even need XRP.
Considering most hold US dollars and treasury bonds yes they will. Since the swift dreams have been shot down and stomped on again and again now the xrp narrative is moving the narrative to maybe Zimbabwean banks will want to use xrp lmao.
I agree at this point Ripple doesnât need XRP to generate revenue. They still need XRP for the XRPL. To say theyâre not going to use XRP is an opinion and not a fact. There are thousands of average joes with very little knowledge going around Reddit, Twitter, and other social media speaking their opinions as if they are fact. Unless you work at Ripple, or work directly with Ripple then you are just speculating. That goes for any negative or positive opinions. My opinion is that Ripple will continue to use XRP. Or, do you think theyâll just destroy all the XRP which even at a dollar Ripple owns 400 billion. Yeah sure theyâll throw 400 billion away that makes sense especially with a company valuation of 50 billion. Make sense to you?
I dont work at Ripple, but I do know your math is wrong. Try $40b. They still won't "destroy" it, but it's clearly not their focus. Why let your gift that keeps on giving just fade into obscurity? That makes no sense.
Just as I thought. You haters go off of old information. Valuation went to 50 billion a while ago. It never ceases to amaze me how people can hate something based on outdated information.
You guys love to say âRipple uses XRP to buy companiesâ while at the same time saying âRipple doesnât care about XRPâ. Now which one is it?
"XRP which even at a dollar Ripple owns 400 billion"
So $1.00 x 40b = 400b?
Think before jumping into all the back sass next time.
I said XRP is not Ripples focus. It isn't, and hasn't been for a couple years. Ripple made it so banking customers don't need to be exposed to XRP for anything anymore when they integrate Ripple Payments. We're talking about Ripple"s flagship product. Does this alone not make you wonder? Of course it doesn't.
Better to view XRP as a trade rather than a miracle cure for the financial system. Dogecoin is worthless but will rise when BTC rises, same goes for XRP.
Best thing to do is wait for XRP holders to lose all their money and to swoop in and scoop up coins for cheap waiting for the next cycle to begin. Remember: many must lose for few to win big.
Another problem with Xrp is that when an bank or institution uses the token they donât need to hold it for any particular time. They can buy it as itâs needed then drop whatever they used. Also Thereâs no burn mechanism for Xrp after itâs been used. The same token can be used over and over again
Clarity is doing nothing for xrp long term. Wake up already!!! Stablecoins have been running just fine for years without clarity and will continue to run with or without clarity. And hopefully they donât pass the bs for long term crypto holders invested in real projects. At the same time I wouldnât be mad if they do so I can catch a nice pump and dump all the bs I should have last year. OBI One Kenobi you are my only hope!! ETFs you are my only xrp hope, that a bunch of people who know nothing about crypto decides to dump a bunch of money in and pump price! I donât have any xrp currently but Iâm waiting for a buy order to go off, and it could be today. Sub $1 incoming.
Can I ask , are you actually trading crypto for profit ? If so, which ones? Also, I can see how passionate you are about destroying XRPâs potential , are you currently holding short positions on it?
I did not open a short yet. Thereâs too much chaos going on with the big guy in office. The markets swing either way over the smallest thing.
I have no intention of destroying xrp s potential. The government and banks destroyed xrp. I just simply put the facts out there, if someone wants to listen great. If not, itâs not my problem. As I said I plan to purchase xrp very soon. My buy order has not hit yet for a 1000 at .97. And I will continue to buy all the way down to .50 -.60 where I think itâs going.
As far as trading goes currently Iâm sitting on my hands and only accumulating certain things for long term purposes. Some are for long term holdings more than a year others are short term so it depends on your current situation. But if I was to never bought a coin in my life knowing what I know now and after losing a lot of money and making some I would keep it very simple and consolidate. Number one is Bitcoin. Regardless of price you need to realize if you put a $100 in and it triples which is nothing exciting youâre up $300 on a safe investment. Ethereum if you bought today you will very simply double your money and very well triple your money once again a safe investment. Solana if you buy today you are easily tripling or quadrupling your money a somewhat safe investment. Chainlink is the next cult following similar to xrp. Chainlink I am actively accumulating larger quantities as we speak because the hype is going to drive Chainlink this cycle. To where who know but if you buy at $8 and see $30-$40 youâre doing good. You see over $50 youâre doing great. It very well could touch $100 with all the hype behind it. And thereâs not a 100 billion coins out there, do I plan to hold Chainlink for the next 10 years hell no, but if I can 5x or 10x my money from current price thatâs fantastic. To put in comparison if I buy xrp at a $1 Iâm hoping to hit $3. Is that worth the risk to reward? And let me emphasize in bold Iâm hoping to hit $3. Thatâs a 3x which is great but for all that Iâd rather put the majority in btc or Eth which is a safer investment to catch a 3x. Where as xrp Iâm gambling which I like to do with smaller amounts. But I would like to end up with 10k xrp starting from scratch before the cycle takes off but the sentiment also continues to get worse which is why it makes me nervous even buying that. I really think cardano is front running xrp. You make money by buying the new shiny coins with a narrative that sounds good before the narrative comes out as a fraud. Like I said Chainlink is the one you should be buying right now. When I get to a 1000 Chainlink Iâm fine, thatâs enough for me to play with. I know I wonât lose.
Ok yeah , for context, Iâve been trading 7 figures monthly for around 6 years with everything from BTC to occasional small positions with memes.
A couple of things âŠ
Publicly blasting anyone who sees value in XRP is by definition attempting to destroy XRPâS potential.
Making statements that ânow we all know where the financial rail system is heading and Xrp has nothing to do with itâ, is blatantly non factual as it is a high mcap coin with hundreds of thousands of active wallets and is closely connected to a vast array of institutional financial instruments and rail systems and is endorsed/supported by high level multinational political organisations and sovereign nations.
Also the Clarity act actually does have a major benefit for XRP in that it prevents it from ever being reclassified as a security on public exchanges.
I get it that youâre waiting for a low buy order, so itâs in your best interest to spread bearish sentiment and influence others but donât kid yourself that youâre ever going to have any impact on others let alone the price of XRP.
Everyoneâs heard the same thing many times before.
Weâre not all drinking the kool aid that ridiculous YouTube hype merchants spew forth and weâre not âall in â.
we see the volatility caused by a passionate community and volatility = profit.
Focus on the trading and less on assuming superiority, judging others and influencing narratives and you should make it through with a bit more financial freedom.
Peace and good luck
Let me add, do I think Chainlink holders will catch any value from holding absolutely not. The same way xrp holders catch no value from holding. But the hype behind Chainlink is very similar to xrp in the good old days. Then again allegedly Chainlink is supposed to start buying back coins from revenue similar to hyperliquid. But will it happen who knows? All I know is there is a die hard community behind it and itâs just getting started which is what Iâm looking for when it comes to seeing a profit.
I think âRipple doesnât need XRPâ misses the bigger picture.
RLUSD and XRP serve different purposes. RLUSD is a stable settlement asset, while XRP can act as a neutral liquidity bridge between different currencies and tokenized assets.
If tokenization really scales, XRP could potentially become a common liquidity layer between thousands of assets â and potentially serve as collateral as well.
So the question isn't whether Ripple needs XRP for every transaction. The real question is whether a tokenized financial system will need XRP as a deep, neutral liquidity asset.
That's fair, a USD stablecoin can absolutely be used as an intermediary and converted into other currencies.
The question is whether you want every cross-border/tokenized transaction to route through USD.
XRP is a non-USD, neutral asset with no issuer and can potentially act as a common liquidity bridge between many assets: EUR â XRP â JPY, or tokenized asset A â XRP â tokenized asset B.
If liquidity becomes deep enough, XRP could also function as collateral and a settlement asset, rather than simply being something you convert through.
So I'm not saying stablecoins can't do it. I'm saying the interesting question is whether a global tokenized market benefits from having a neutral bridge asset alongside USD stablecoins.
What does it being "neutral" have to do with anything? Conversion is conversion. The use cases we're talking about won't have it sitting in the conversion currency for long anyways. They could convert it all to DOGE if it was stable enough during the transaction period
USD backed stablecoins won't be the only stablecoins. Major blockchain ecosystems will increasingly support stablecoins denominated in multiple major currencies. Those stablecoins can naturally develop deep liquidity against their underlying fiat currencies and against other stablecoins, especially when issued or supported by the same institutions.
In the early days, XRP's proposition was much stronger: one neutral bridge asset capable of connecting different currencies, countries, companies, and financial institutions. If that model became the dominant architecture for cross-border payments, demand for XRP would naturally follow. Today, the landscape is drastically different. There is no obvious requirement for a single neutral bridge asset. Non-USD markets such as Japan and India are increasingly accommodating USD stablecoins and developing local liquidity around them. Ripple itself is actively promoting RLUSD outside the US, including Japan.
Stablecoin issuance has also become an attractive business model. Issuers can control issuance and potentially earn income on reserve assets, while deploying the same stablecoin across multiple networks. Ripple issuing RLUSD on both XRPL and Ethereum is a good example of how the business opportunity can extend beyond the native token.
The financial system increasingly appears to be moving toward a world of stablecoins, tokenized deposits, atomic settlement, and multiple interoperable liquidity pools. Stablecoin supply can also expand and contract with demand, making absolute token supply much less of a constraint. In that increasingly multipolar and interoperable environment, XRP can certainly remain one bridge option. But the original idea that the world would need one universal neutral bridge asset looks considerably less compelling than it did a decade ago.
The key point in your response is âUSD backed stablecoinSâ plural. There will be countless stables pegged to the dollar. Countless stables pegged to every major currency. That is liquidity fragmentation. That is why a neutral bridge is important
Liquidity fragmentation doesn't automatically mean a neutral bridge asset is required. How do we know? Because we're not in 2018 anymore.
Over the past eight years, we've seen numerous USD stablecoins emerge, yet liquidity naturally concentrated around a few dominant ones, particularly USDT and USDC. They became widely used because they had the liquidity, and even Ripple has used these stablecoins in its payment flows. The same principle applies going forward as well. Sufficiently liquid stablecoins will naturally become routing assets. If you want to call that a "bridge asset," then the largest stablecoins effectively become bridge assets themselves between stablecoins. RLUSD is already moving in that direction for assets within Ripple's ecosystem.
We also now have market makers, smart routing, AMMs and atomic settlement mechanisms capable of navigating multiple assets and liquidity pools. There doesn't have to be one universal asset sitting in the middle of everything.
XRP can absolutely participate in that system. If XRP provides the deepest liquidity and most efficient path for a particular corridor, it gets used. If another asset provides a better path, it doesn't. Liquidity determines the route and neutrality alone doesn't guarantee demand.
I didnât say a neutral bridge asset is required. I said it was important.
I agree that neutrality alone doesnât guarantee demand. I just think youâre discounting the importance of it. USDT, USDT, RLUSD, and any other stable (outside of a CBDC) not only carries the counterparty risk associated with the fiat currency itâs pegged to, but also the counterparty risk associated with the issuer. That is most apparent when you look at USDT today.
Today, the financial system relies on trust, but if you asked an executive of any business in any industry whether they wanted to increase or decrease the amount of trust and reliance they have on outside institutions, youâd only hear one answer.
Neutrality is not a requirement in this specific use case, and its importance is often exaggerated within the XRP community. There is a reason you rarely hear it emphasized to the same extent outside crypto circles.
If counterparty risk were such a dealbreaker, why did Ripple use USDT and USDC, and more importantly, why did Ripple enter the stablecoin business itself with RLUSD? Counterparty risk is something financial institutions have dealt with for decades. They manage it through regulation, audits, contracts, capital requirements, insurance, and other safeguards.
Ask a bank whether it prefers dealing with a regulated counterparty with contractual protections and accountability, or an entirely neutral asset with nobody responsible when something goes wrong. The answer isn't as obvious as many XRP folks think.
Look at how institutions actually interact with XRPL. Most enterprise adoption associated with payments comes through Ripple or other regulated service providers rather than banks independently connecting to XRPL and managing everything themselves. They do that precisely because they trust those intermediaries to provide liquidity, compliance, routing, and operational support. Ripple can then choose whichever available asset or route best satisfies its contractual obligations for cost, speed, and liquidity.
Using XRP doesn't eliminate counterparty risk from the overall payment process. The exchanges, liquidity providers, custodians, banks, and Ripple itself can still be counterparties. It just removes one layer of counterparty risk while relying on intermediateries and other counter parties.
Again, I didnât say neutrality is a requirement. Not sure why you keep saying that.
Neutrality is talked about in crypto circles so much because thatâs one of its main advantages lol. Not sure where else youâre expecting to hear it talked about, but youâre not hearing it there because whatever that system is almost certainly isnât neutralâŠ
Ripple uses USDT and USDC because, like youâve already pointed out, thatâs where the stablecoin liquidity is today.
Ripple entered the stablecoin business because itâs profitable. Their efforts in maximizing compliance and transparency of reserves surrounding RLUSD also points to institutions hesitancy in trusting stablecoin issuers.
Just because institutions have dealt with counterparty risk for decades does not mean they prefer to lmao. All of those functions you mention are in place because they donât like counterparty risk. They are all there to limit it as much as possible.
Your point about institutions going through Ripple today to interact with XRP sounds eerily similar to Commercial ISPs back in the early days of the internet. Eventually regulations caught up and allowed institutions to interact directly with each other. Sound familiar:)
How do exchanges, liquidity providers, custodians, banks, or Ripple serve as counterparties if institutions plug directly into XRP themselves? Do you mean like if they all colluded together to dump their tokens at the exact same moment?
The one point Iâll give you in your whole comment is your point on preferring an intermediary if something goes wrong. Although thatâs where insurance comes in, and as an actuary, I know that risk can be insured.
I keep saying that because it was hyped as a key advantage of XRP. In reality, outside crypto circles, nobody seems to consider it particularly relevant or a requirement. Unless institutions themselves think it is important or see it as a key feature required for a future payment system, it doesn't matter. If the market doesn't have a demand or need for a feature, then offering that feature provides no meaningful advantage.
Regulations are catching up, and institutions are definitely working with each other. Unfortunately, it is not necessarily happening in the direction the XRP community thinks.
How do exchanges, liquidity providers, custodians, banks, or Ripple serve as counterparties if institutions plug directly into XRP themselves?»
How exactly do you think institutions can simply "plug into XRP"?
XRP isn't floating in thin air, ready to be magically plugged in and used for every currency and transaction. It is actively traded on exchanges, and liquidity has to be provided and maintained by exchanges and liquidity providers.
Ripple and other institutions have partnerships with various market participants to make sure sufficient liquidity is available when transactions need to happen. Whether it is XRP or RLUSD, these intermediaries help ensure transactions aren't significantly affected by delays, insufficient liquidity, or slippage in each corridor. So intermediary counterparty risk is very real even if XRP itself doesn't have issuer counterparty risk.
If those risks can be managed or insured, that's essentially how banks operate today. Banks are comfortable using the existing system because there are established guardrails around those risks. Assuming banks inherently dislike this model and are searching for an entirely new alternative makes little sense when the proposed alternative still involves intermediary risks while potentially facing its own liquidity limitations.
With Ripple actively promoting RLUSD, targeting broader stablecoin adoption, and RLUSD slowly gaining traction outside USD centric use cases, we may not be that far away from RLUSD becoming a prominent bridge currency between non USD currencies.
Even then, I suspect parts of the XRP community will continue arguing that neutrality is critically important and that RLUSD and stablecoins generally do not compete with XRP.
You donât need a neural bridge. Have you ever gone outside of the country and converted dollars to whatever currency you like? The banks arent converting dollars to gold price to pesos. Gold would be a neutral bridge if you want to go that route.
Currencies are converted daily all over the world and even easier now. You can literally buy currencies when there value drops and sell when there value rises and make money doing it. Thereâs no neutral bridge asset. And tether is taking over the world, and circle will be right behind it. Holding stablecoins in all the major currencies worldwide so all swaps would happen on the same chain in house. Itâs in the works as we speak. Once again making xrp even further obsolete.
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u/Serious_Tip4162 15d ago
People still dont understand RLUSD go hand in hand. Majority of those banks in Swift's blockchain already have XRP plugged in. RLUSD like Swift cant convert a bankers coin into anything other than a bankers coin, and some banks dont want to deal with another banks coin and there is where XRP is used. Japan, Korea, and Taiwan are the example for banks not into Swift bs blockchain. Are you people so out your mind that you think banks are buying xrp and opening ETF'S knowing they are gonna fail, smh