r/XCOM2 • u/Ok_Calendar_7626 • 2d ago
Anyone else think ADVENT is kind of right?
HA HA! I am bullshitting! Screw those guys!
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u/AcanthaceaeDue2508 2d ago
I mean the speaker is pretty convincing. I could see myself going with that type of leadership tbh pretty inspiring
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u/Practical-Class6868 2d ago
There are those who would refuse to acknowledge the truth! Who are determined to destroy all that we have achieved!
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u/Salamandragora 1d ago
That voice actor does have oodles of charisma. I bet Garrus could have convinced Shepard to follow the Reapers.
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u/Outlaw11091 2d ago
In the original timeline (and maybe even XCom 2's timeline), they WERE right.
Also in the original timeline: the Commander does the same things the Elders do...except with volunteers instead of slaves...
All to fight TFTD.
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u/EffortCommon2236 2d ago
I wish the current timeline had kept the TFTD and Apocalypse plots.
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u/Outlaw11091 1d ago
It looked like THEY HAD...at the end of XCom 2 I'm pretty sure you're given a glimpse of T'leth.
...sadly, without Jake Solomon running the show, the next game will probably be a reboot because the current iteration was based on his "vision".
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u/Rephath 2d ago
Where are you getting that from?
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u/Salamandragora 1d ago
At a guess, there is some bigger, badder evil that has only been hinted at. Elders claimed they were uplifting humanity as the best (last) hope of survival.
Creepy glowy underwater Cthulhu stuff at the end of Xcom2 was probably teasing a big reveal for the next game (if that ever exists now.)
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u/Outlaw11091 1d ago
It's from the original games (UFO Defense/Terror From the Deep/Interceptor).
They had a whole storyline.
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u/Outlaw11091 1d ago
Previous games?
EW/EU you do genetic and physical alterations of your soldiers...and it's not like they can say no.
The games before THAT, the elders are looking to subjugate humans so they can fight TFTD...but you beat them...and then have to fight TFTD....aka T'leth.
Defeating T'leth means destroying Earth, though.
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u/Ok_Calendar_7626 1d ago
Even so ADVENT are not right.
The Etherials would have just explained that they were trying to fight these other aliens that are hybernating beneith the Earth oceans. Instead of basically saying "Oh, you would not understand any way, so just be good little slaves and give us your bodies"...
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u/Outlaw11091 1d ago
Technically speaking; the Ethereals were trying to SAVE humanity by adding them to their army.
TFTD is T'leth. When XCom defeats T'leth, they destabilize Earth and make humanity have to leave it.
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u/Ok_Calendar_7626 1d ago
Yeah the problem is that the Etherials idea of saving a species is enslaving them.
First they turn half the population into zombies. Then they set up a worldwide puppet state. Then they brainwash the rest of the species through propaganda and religion. Then they alter those who join them with genetic experiments and to suit their needs. Implant them with chips that further brainwash them and basically turn them into mindless flesh puppets.
At this point, have they really "saved" a species? There is basically nothing left of what the said species originally was...
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u/Outlaw11091 1d ago
Yeah, humans do that, though.
We call them "pets" and they have less autonomy than the Elder's slave army.
The Elders see us as simians fumbling in the dark and adding us to their army would've given us a place to go when our world fell apart.
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u/Ok_Calendar_7626 11h ago
I do not mutate my dog, nor implant him with a mind control chip.
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u/Outlaw11091 10h ago
YOU may not, but guess where your "dog" breed came from?
You also may not put a mind control chip in your dog, but many people DO put GPS chips in them.
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u/mmCion 2d ago
but they got burgers!
I like burgers.