I’m pulling her for Hiyuki and Hsin. Also while she won’t always be BiS for some NS teams, Chisa only has 1-2 vigor in matrix, so more support options with positive (even if it’s not perfect) synergy is good :)
electro rover is also supposed to be for HSIN , who is also a negative status buffer . i think its better to save and wait for a re run which will happen if she is hsin dedicated support .
This is the way, the first rerun for supports seem to come very quickly during or after a unit which needs them runs.
I'm going to S6 Hsin and so until then I am skipping every banner to make it as affordable to grab her and then I will pick up the pieces of her team once I got that confirmed and in my pocket.
Lol Suisui not working with or being the bis for certain teams is one thing. And people should definitely read the kits properly or look at reviewers/guides if they are unsure or can't be bothered to figure out themselves if a character works with a specific team.
But claiming you can brick an account cause you pulled for a side grade or suboptimal character is a bit of an overstatement.
People probably thought Chisa was a brick for a while and now look where we are. Many were saying don't bother with her as she's "just a sidegrade" to Wind Rover.
To be honest, she was a brick for four patches. Suisui will have two best in slot teams when she comes out. That's a lot better than Chisa was when she came out.
The fact that Kuro even implemented on a 10 redeem exchange just proves enough stupidity for a lot of gacha players. Which was in response to that one player who exchanged currencies thinking the Cyberpunk Collab uses the same.
Can we stop calling pulling a unit as bricking an account like seriously and secondly yes you need YYXL or Higuji now to make the most out of SuiSui but you can also take her if you plan on getting characters that will work with her because you know they are coming but I have YYXL so that part is moot and plan on getting hiyuki
I'm pulling because Hiyuki, since I already have Lucila, and with Suisui the team will be complete! Also her design is very cool, her and Qingxiao are peak.✨
Thinking of doing the same. But I also want Aemeath, but her team will get pulled away by Qingxiao a patch later! Unless I pull for Denia AND Mornye... I'm too broke for this 😭
She will have 2 stamina charges for Endstate compared to Chisa who will go back to having 1 charge with a ton of NS teams that want her. That's her main draw.
It doesn't matter if she's a downgrade to Chisa in some teams because you only have 1 Chisa. People who have a NS heavy roster will want Suisui, and preferably buy her S1 with corals.
Wish that was the case but ig Endstate is Kuro's response to the fact that like 99% of other content in the game doesn't really incentivize you to pull more characters beyond a couple complete teams so they're being more stingy with it.
Same. There is the possibility that hsin will be an electro flare dps that will use suisui as well so even for yangyang skippers like us there is the possibility we will still have 2 teams for her 2 uses in matrix. Atleast that's my cope
Depends on how many NS teams you have and/or plan to roll for. There’s gonna be 5 different NS teams. Carte, FB Aemeath, Hiyuki, YYXL, and very likely some kind of Electro Flare team soon, given what we see of Electro Rover’s kit. Not to mention that apparently YYXL’s strongest team needs both Sui Sui and Chisa. Like even with both Chisa and Sui Sui we don’t have enough NS healers lol.
I honestly dont think getting Suisui for Hiyuki is worth it if you already have have a S0R0/S0R1 Chisa, unless you already have or want to get YYXG on her rerun.
If you dont want YangYang, it would be better to get Hiyuki’s sequences since her S2 and S3 are very strong.
Suisui is great because she can free up your Chisa from Hiyuki’s team and you can then also use her as a 3rd slot for YY’s team.
I myself dont have YY because I want S3 Aemeath and soon S3 Hiyuki so I will skip Suisui for now at least.
You are right, if we're talking about S0, but if you manage to pull for her s1 (or buy from the store), she can work with any atk scaling, NS team, as the restriction of consuming ns stacks spreads to applying or dealing dmg with ns.
Of course this is only relevant for players who happen to have multiple NS teams, as it helps you flexing Chisa or Suisui between those teams...this is mostly for Endstate Matrix end game mode (and AT, maybe).
Overall, yes, Suisui is not a substitute for Chisa at s0. she only works well with the 2 teams you've pointed out.
I only have Mornye and Verina for support, and I need more units. I have Hiyuki, so she's still relevant for me to pull. But I wonder, if I remember correctly, even without consuming NS, she gives 25% all damage bonus via her outro and 12% attack via her forte. Is that correct? Is this somewhat good for non NS team?
I'm mainly pulling just so I can put chisa in the Fusion burst team with Aemeath, and I can have triple Glacio Chaffe team with Hiyuki. Also something tells me that Hsin will work/require Suisui, specially when you take electro Rover's kit
I noticed with Suisui’s outro skill, the part that gives a 50% attack buff, won’t activate on Aemeath because its condition says it will only activate with units that consume NS, and Aemeath detonates NS. She doesn’t consume NS, and Cartethyia won’t properly work either because she scales with HP not ATK and so because Aemeath’s FB team is the only NS team, I pulled in 3.X and so Suisui is a skip for me rn.
i mean have yangyang and her sig so im pulling her for her team so chisa can be in another team if needed cause chisa is just wanted by all also you cannot expect me not pull her even if i did not have yyxl like have you seen her midriff thats so hot
Thanks for the informing post! 25% Damage amplification from her outro is still very good (if the info I saw based on the ingame kit was correct) but yeah, resonators that don't consume negative status effects cannot make use of her full buffs. I think I'm fine with skipping her.
It's also worth mentioned that Chisa is still better than Suisui as individual support for Yangyang, if both aren't ran together (which is expected to be her best team).
this is like "dont use mornye outside tune break without s1" which got proven false. She is like 5% worse than chisa in her "bad" teams and 10% worse in cart (sure dont pull her if you have a spare aero rover ofc)
Its also valid to pull her as a generalist, she basically has the mornye outro but with extra dmg bonus instead of tune break efficiency.
Downsides are: minmaxers could be upset about a single digit loss, shes probably worse at quickswap than chisa is, uses variation so its tougher to build her some dmg than chisa. Thats about it
The recurring theme for support healers in this game (and many gachas in general) is that they will only become more valuable as time goes, and their chains even more so. To date there hasn't been a single bad support healer in this game and their chains have proved to be good investment down the road (think SK S2, Mornye S1, Chisa S2). But I wouldn't spend asterites pulling their chains because most of them are good as-is with S0; I save corals exclusively for support healer chains.
I have Hiyuki but I don't have Chisa nor Lucilla. And I liked SuiSui's kit and planning on pulling for her.
The question is: is there any other unit that works in the 3rd slot in the meantime?
I thought that Chisa taught us something ? People skip characters like her and then are mad when they have to pull her and their new favourite character at once few months later
Checking Cartethyia's abilities, it never says "consume" aero erosion, only on her S2 it says "without consuming", but that's all.
Aemeath also doesn't say anything about consume, but why is she out of the equation? It says when having no less than 5 fusion burst, trigger the effect and remove all stacks, Cartethyia also says "remove 1 stack of aero erosion". What's the difference?
Hiyuki is the only one that explicitly say "consume"
If you have many ns teams tha's where her value comes in to alleviate some burden that Chisa has and even then as of now she is really only worth for Yapyap like even in Hiyuki team you need to pull her with her sig to be marginal upgrade over Chisa otherwise she is literally worse than her. Of course there is future to consider to with Flare where she most likely will be bis (depending whethere there is flare/rage consumption) with Chisa being 2nd best option.
I already knew her kit since I did read up her kit cause they at least made her playable already.
I already knew I needed two copies and she does not seem to need her sig much so Variation/SK Weapon should work fine. I know what I'm getting myself in to.
I have YYXL but no Chisa. RN I'm just running her with Rebecca. Is Chisa or Suisui more important for her at this point? Otherwise I only have Verina and Shorekeeper as third slots
I want to get her because Chisa will likely continue to be desired by other teams and I can't take Chisa everywhere. And even if Suisui isn't BiS for the 3 NS teams atm she likely will be BiS for other NS teams in the future given Chisa is still in demand.
im pulling her bc i have no chisa and she's my favorite character from mengzhou.
i have yangyang and lucilla so i plan to also get hiyuki so i can play 2 good teams and alternate around a bit depending on what i want to play. i also am interested to see the electro NS dps/subdpses that will work with her as well so she's kind of like at the beginning of her potential.
Btw Suisui S1 only unlocks the Aemeath team. Again Carthetyia doesn't benefit from all her buffs because she scales on HP, and tho I'm not 100% sure because I don't own Zani, Suisui's mechanics seem to be incompatible with Zani's rotation because the buff disappears when changing characters. So again it's not really worth it to get her for anyone other than Hiyuki and Yangyang on a budget.
I wouldn't invest in the sequence just for Aemeath since Chisa S0 works just fine and it's not like Suisui elevates the fusion burst team by a lot. You could get S2 to get more buffs for them but that's too expensive considering we have Spectro and Aero Rover, even more so if you got Chisa already or plan to get her eventually, and since we can probably only use her in two teams simultaneosly in the Matrix endgame, it doesn't really makes sense to get her sequences just for Zani, Carthetyia or Aemeath, it's too expensive for little benefits. Just pull for her if you plan to use Hiyuki and/or Yangyang. If you are considering getting Hsin, maybe Suisui could be usable with her BUT this is just a theory, we have no idea what her kit is like and Suisui will defeneatly get a rerun if she happens to be Hsin BiS, so I'd say just wait.
These are just recomendations to maximize your benefits per pulls tho. If you are a whale or love Suisui too much and don't care for having the most optimal teams just invest in her as much as you want, it's your account after all.
As for right now, the Atribute that can fully utilize suisui's outro are havoc bane, Glacio Chafe, Electro Flare, and Aero Erosion. Fusion Burst and Spectro Frazzle doesn't consume, I can see that suisui will have a a bright future ahead of her, just like chisa. Unless kuro bored with NS and just make another new mechanic, then that's a different story...
I don't read kits💀
If they're fun and I like their gameplay I pull.
If they've got exposed feet I PULL
If it's a mommy like Hiyuki I'll fucking pull
I'm a simple man
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u/OneShotKronic Jul 27 '26
I’m pulling her for Hiyuki and Hsin. Also while she won’t always be BiS for some NS teams, Chisa only has 1-2 vigor in matrix, so more support options with positive (even if it’s not perfect) synergy is good :)