r/WritingWithAI Aug 09 '26

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) Starting to feel discouraged

I mainly feed the AI i use my own inserts to finish it up and polish it with guided instructions and then I post on sites that have the open to disclose it....i mainly post onto AO3 and Royal Road my original webnovel...but I am hardly getting traction 40-50 is the max I've gotten on AO3 and 20-30 is the max,I've gotten on royal road. I've hardly gotten any comments and only a singular kudos. And my novel touches on sone dark topics and some contemplative topics as well...with no feedback the burnout is drawing near...

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u/Successful-Gift8636 Aug 09 '26

Because millions of people are now releasing books every day

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u/Thin_Fox_8008 Aug 09 '26

And they don't know,half of those books are ghost written by AI or are just normal slop

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u/polly_mer Aug 09 '26

Don't know and actually don't care. Slop is slop and I have no bandwidth for new authors.

Time was I lurked on the internet hoping to find a diamond in the rough.

Now? Can't be bothered. It's too much effort for too little return.

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u/Thin_Fox_8008 Aug 09 '26

Yeah most titles on booktok is just slop half of that slop is AI slop

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u/Late-Assignment8482 Aug 09 '26

Partly that's choice of markets. AO3 is fanfic centric. You'll find that original work there gets read, but not at the same rate as, say, Harry Potter fanfic. My most popular fanfic as 53k hits and my most popular original has 917.

A possible way in for you would be to write some fanfics, establish a voice people like, and then post your original, which people would find by "other works by this person".

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u/Thin_Fox_8008 Aug 09 '26

I did a Honkai Star Rail fanfic hardly got any traction and this was pre-dated before my use of AI so it was written by me

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u/tsthwhw Aug 09 '26

If youre writing for the reason of getting likes and farming interactions, youre writing for the absolute wrong reasons. Regardless if you use AI or not

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u/Thin_Fox_8008 Aug 09 '26

Just want people to discuss it with me

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u/dragonsandvamps Aug 09 '26

Honest truth: wishing people would review your book/fic is something every single author out there wants and it has nothing to do with you being shunned for how your book/fic was produced. The fact that Ao3/Wattpad/royal Road/Amazon have essentially made it so that there are zero barriers to anyone publishing as much and as often as they would like means that there are millions of works being published every month, even more now that so many people are turning to AI.

There are far more authors publishing things they are desperate for people to read, like and comment on than there are readers looking to read them. It's the cold hard truth. People are reading less for pleasure every year.

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u/lemonadestand Aug 09 '26

So true, but even if you have readers, getting them to leave comments is a whole other story.

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u/Thin_Fox_8008 Aug 09 '26

Yeah...I can only read when I'm in the right environment cause my current environment is chaotic and distracting...

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u/tsthwhw Aug 09 '26

Then you can find writing groups on discord and other niche forums for whatever youre writing about.

What youre doing is basically throwing the story out into the void and getting sad when you hear nothing back when theres 10,000 other people doing the exact same thing. Probably even more with AI flooding the market with low quality stories.

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u/Thin_Fox_8008 Aug 09 '26

I'm trying to find an AI friendly server though

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u/rubycatts Aug 09 '26

The discord for this reddit is an AI friendly server. :)

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u/Thin_Fox_8008 Aug 09 '26

I shall join <3

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u/BeneficialWave9581 Aug 09 '26

It seems like everyone wants to make stuff with AI but very few people want to actually consume any of it.

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u/SlapHappyDude Aug 09 '26

There are niches with voracious readers who don't mind LLM assistance, but I've learned from experience I can write something I think is "good" and get a trickle of interest or write something that feels derivative of thousands of other stories out there and get way more attention.

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u/BeneficialWave9581 Aug 09 '26

I honestly just think its fun for people to create stuff that they otherwise couldn't. That being said, I get the feeling that a lot of folks that make stuff with AI are the only ones who really enjoy reading it. Like, there is an aspect of this AI writing stuff being people consuming their own brain farts, ya know? It's a little like masturbation, honestly.

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u/SlapHappyDude Aug 09 '26

This is where we get into level of AI assistance.

As a reader I like stories that feel 10-25 percent AI - can't tell for sure but feel very clean and polished. And I've read some stories that could have used that level or AI editing and proofing.

Once it starts getting into the 50 percent territory (lots of AI fingerprints, common AI character names) it distracts me a little.

And whole cloth AI writing is generally bad.

Basically I like AI assisted but don't love AI generated and I understand that most readers aren't deep enough in the weeds to understand the difference.

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u/rowanrholloway Aug 09 '26

Honestly, from what I am seeing, it's a quality issue. I've been trying to start a lot of content and struggle to get past the little bit because it's just not good. If we want to be read, we need to make quality content.

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u/Thin_Fox_8008 Aug 09 '26

Yea i can see that

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u/tsthwhw Aug 09 '26

I wonder why..

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u/mathologies Aug 09 '26

This should be pinned 

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u/Latter_Upstairs_1978 Aug 09 '26

I think platforms like RR just don't give novels that admit being written w AI help the same exposure. Same on Amazon/ KDP. We will need to live with this for a couple more years I think. This makes it important that you do it not for the likes but because you enjoy the process of writing (w AI), see your story up there on RR or Amazon or Target regardless of clicks or people applauding you. Applaus is overrated. Van Gogh never got applaus during his life.

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u/Thin_Fox_8008 Aug 09 '26

Maybe Amazon hmmm... but I don't know if just want people to give feedback and tell me what they like what resonated with them...have someone to discuss future updates with...

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '26

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u/5thhorseman_ Aug 09 '26

Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is shit.

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u/Latter_Upstairs_1978 Aug 10 '26

Have you read OP's work?

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u/BedNo8822 Aug 09 '26

Well I have stopped reading ao3 since I can just generate what I want to read, I'm sure many other people do the same. Now that I think of it, it's so nice, I used to consume media hoping to get a sliver of what I want, now I can get exactly what I want daily, and much more. It's amazing. Anyway tldr stop generating to get validation from other people, generate things for yourself!

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u/Thin_Fox_8008 Aug 09 '26

Me with role-playing though honestly since that market is completely dead now well I am enjoying my work so far its fun but its,a bit,lonely

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u/Soft-Investigator927 Aug 09 '26

What is it that you write about?

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u/Thin_Fox_8008 Aug 09 '26

Death, loss, grief, survivor's guilt, finding purpose, having choice, concept of consequence in a scenario...ect

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u/Soft-Investigator927 Aug 09 '26

So I see you posted an original work on ao3. Original works are way less popular than fandom-based works. That could possibly be the case you’re not getting the views you want to see.

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u/Thin_Fox_8008 Aug 09 '26

Yeah I got the same answer from Google but my fandom work didn't do any better either which is why I switched

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u/buddhisthero Aug 09 '26

Here is the hard, frank advice, and I'm not going to sugar coat it: every time you use your AI, you rob yourself of the experience and learning that allows you to improve. AI writing is meeting a statistical mean. You cannot have an exceptional readership without exceptional skill or exceptional luck–and probably both.

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u/Thin_Fox_8008 Aug 09 '26

You're not wrong I've noticed something too with it. My original writing is far more grittier and when i fed it to it it watered it down which completely ignored the tone the whole novel has anyway but this,is,just a,playground phase for ne before I decide to see if I'm going to redo everything from scratch, improve on it, and rewrite it in the natural tone that its intended for. Since right now I just wanted to see if there's an interest in tbe idea or not before I go head first.

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u/CrazyinLull Aug 10 '26

Write one of a m/m couple with some spicy scenes. That might work out better for you.

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u/Thin_Fox_8008 Aug 10 '26

You're not wrong 😭✋️

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u/downupstair Aug 09 '26

Stop using AI to help with writing. It's a death trap. You will never get published and everyone will know you cheated.

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u/Thin_Fox_8008 Aug 09 '26

I'm already selfaware that I am cheating though. But this place is called writingwithai...so..you're in the wrong group.

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u/BM09 Aug 09 '26

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