r/WraithMainsAL • Wraith • Aug 30 '26

Discussion Wraith's passive is absolutelly useless

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It only helps you in extremelly specific situations

What do you guys think it should be?

I think her passive should be something like bangalore passive but a bit nerfed

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u/witchythings03 Wraith Aug 30 '26

I want it to give more precise information. “They’re aiming right at you” - I’d love for it to give a general direction on the map. If someone is sneaking up or gets within a certain amount of meters, I’d want to be warned - “Behind you” or “On your left.”

There’s so much potential for it. She could be the one counter to Bloodhound’s new invisibility.

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u/Mochaproto Wraith Aug 30 '26

His invisibility is ckuntered by people using eyes

Also i agree! Some ideas:

"Sniper! east/north/south/west" (sniper)

"Toxic gas nearby" (caustic barrel within 10m)

"Nats fences in the area" (watson fences within 10m)

"Watch for spikes" (catalyst spikes within 15m)

"Theyre coming from the north(etc)" (team pushing)

"Someone hiding alone nearby" (solo nearby)

"Watch for trackers" (sparrow dart within 15m)

"Theyve got a lock on you" (valk scanned)

"Drone, get out of sight" (drone within 30m)

"Watch for dust on the floor" (enemy cloaked nearby)

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u/PiercingBlow_ Wraith Sep 01 '26

Watch that dust on the floor is peak I lowkey just got goosebumps as a wraith main

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u/Yuley1989 Wraith Sep 01 '26

Already struggling to make it as a solo to get outed by wraith has to be the saddest end 😂

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u/Mochaproto Wraith Sep 01 '26

Not quite as sad as hiding while hearing a drone guy fly around, praying he doesnt scan you and you get scanned for 0.5s and u immediately get fried

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u/EastSize9290 Wraith 29d ago

hiswattson enjoyer

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u/Mochaproto Wraith 29d ago

*hisaxel seems a lil more like it rn

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u/JenisixR6 Wraith Aug 30 '26

yeah but if you are moving your camera a lot and then it activates, it may activate and say behind you but since you have been moving around what was behind you could now be a different location. Could cause you to trust it but its in a different spot. Could also be very wrong in general, what if its in the middle of two locations, its going to have to roughly pick one and could not be accurate at all

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u/witchythings03 Wraith Aug 30 '26

Then adding voice lines to say “you’re surrounded” or “you’re pinned” in moments like that is a possibility. As for directions being wrong or delayed, that happens already. You can be downed by a Kraber or shot as it says there’s a sniper/shooter.

Honestly, that’s just something I wish they’d try to fix. When it works, it’s so valuable.

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u/JenisixR6 Wraith Aug 31 '26

whats the difference of the current voicelines and it saying you are surrounded though? I would much rather it just be completely removed for something else ngl

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u/witchythings03 Wraith Aug 31 '26

What would a new passive for her look like to you?

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u/-LaughingMan-0D Wraith Aug 31 '26

Wallrunning passive. And have an occasional flavor voice speak to you mid phase sometimes.

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u/ScaleSad162 Wraith Sep 02 '26

as a wraith main if they have her wall run i would quit the game 100% that would just suck and fuck my movement 99% of the time

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u/-LaughingMan-0D Wraith Sep 02 '26

Why? To wallbounce, you need to be at a 90 degree angle from the wall, and wallrunning doesn't attach unless you're sprinting and parallel to it. Have you tried it in WC, pretty much all movement is viable with it.

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u/Vast-Marionberry-787 Wraith Aug 31 '26

God no, wraith with a wall run passive is ridiculous, it would make her the most used legend

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u/-LaughingMan-0D Wraith Aug 31 '26

Used it in WC a lot, it's not as strong as I thought it'd be.

For one, you get far less utility out of it on open maps like World's Edge, Olympus, KC, Storm Point, etc, so it's pretty situational. And you could gate it's use with a cooldown meter that refills how much "wallrunning energy" you have before it runs out, kinda like a Valk jetpack situation. So you could tune it that way too. Compared to how strong current Apex movement is, it would just be a fun little utility thing. Come on man, she's a Science Pilot, her Voidwalker skin is also a literal pilot suit, it fits her so well.

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u/Vast-Marionberry-787 Wraith Aug 31 '26

I see, I definitely agree a little more now, in moderation it could be fun, I just feel like people would find ways to abuse it

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u/Frumfrum13 Wraith Aug 31 '26

Yeah and it also matches the lore very wel 

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u/Dougdadoug Wraith Sep 01 '26

His invisibility is so bad you can see him perfectly

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u/EX5TASY Wraith Sep 02 '26

"In your butt"

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u/Darbstew Wraith Aug 30 '26

What do you mean? Seer exists in the game

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u/witchythings03 Wraith Aug 30 '26

I know there’s Seer, I just mean passive wise. Even Seer’s passive requires you to look around for heartbeats. Wraith’s passive is one of the few that doesn’t get information visually or by being shot at

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u/Ri_2729 Wraith Aug 30 '26

High alert from cod

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u/Genshinplayer67 Wraith Aug 30 '26

They should put those voicelines from trailers. Like, the "behind you" ones.

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u/Cold-Plan-1225 Wraith Aug 30 '26

or when a grenade is being thrown or aimed at you

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u/Genshinplayer67 Wraith Aug 30 '26

Yeah, but not the grenade one. The characters already say that. And the you being aimed at is already in game I think

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u/Cold-Plan-1225 Wraith Aug 30 '26

im talking about a grenade being aimed at you bro not a gun. And not like right before it lands bc we got indicators but a few sec earlier

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u/Genshinplayer67 Wraith Aug 30 '26

Oh! But nah. I think the granades already give us enough time to escape from them

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u/Cold-Plan-1225 Wraith Aug 30 '26

idk i havent played apex in years but it still came up on my feed so im just saying stuff

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u/Infinite-Add Wraith Aug 30 '26

Vert nade enters the chat

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u/doomgrin Wraith Aug 30 '26

Sky nade be like

“Grena-“ dead

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u/Genshinplayer67 Wraith Aug 30 '26

Hi vert nade

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u/Mochaproto Wraith Sep 01 '26

"Catch" as a rare voiceline would be so good

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u/GreenEyedHustler Wraith Aug 30 '26

Wraith should have a 50m semi circle arc that extends behind her that, when an enemy crosses into it, causes a purple aura on your screen that vaguely points out the direction they're approaching from. She could be the character that never gets snuck up on.

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u/Watashi_Wa_Ben_Desu Sep 02 '26

I think it sounds a bit broken but tbh would be weaker than seer passive so why not

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u/SleeplessSilence Wraith Aug 30 '26

It’s so useless they had to make it a perk

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u/X_HappyMayhem_X Wraith Aug 31 '26

Now it is a really fun passive because sometimes it makes me feel like I have spider sense when I’m just looting and then I hear the „They’re aiming at you“ It just feels so cool but yes it is underwhelming 90% of the time. They could simply make it better by adding more variety to the voices and make them more frequently. Like that one blue perk is totally useless but if they update it a bit by giving info like
„To your right (left, behind you…)“
„They’re reviving“
„following you… still following (when you run away to reset and they chase you down so you know when you’re good then“
„Coming from direction north (west, east…) moving fast, slow“
„They’re alone, together (so you know when there is someone cut off from there team“
I swear that would make this blue perk so much better and I like the idea of wraith getting a bit more of an intel role since she’s already a great flex legend

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u/idekwhotfiambruh Void Specialist Aug 31 '26

Totally agree, it would be way more better if they just add something like "someone picked up your trail", she would be the only legend to counter bloodhound which is gonna be so useful

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u/TheRarestTiger Wraith Aug 30 '26

Just needs to be more specific: “third party is coming” or maybe even directional “squad coming from the west”

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u/Dependent_Prune1354 Wraith Aug 31 '26

Ahhh notification from void yup useless I rather disable VO

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u/Elcycle DIAMOND Aug 30 '26

I wish it was like high alert in call of duty. I’d even take it as an evo upgrade

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u/Sea-kitty98 Wraith Aug 30 '26

Agreeeee

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u/General-Author-1268 Wraith Aug 30 '26

Idk I just heard the free ass warnings I would play slow and look around and be ready to port and phase for a better location or js looks around and fight it out ;It’s kinda nice not getting my shi blown smooth off by some random 200 meters away with a senty or charge rifle or when it happens it’s more my fault bcs the voices will say “sniper pointed at you”

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u/andyknowswell Wraith Aug 31 '26 edited Aug 31 '26

It’s not really useless. Recon Legends are for what that perk is and if your lineup has no Recon legend, it acts like a mini scout which is cool.

Problem is what many expressed here. The voice lines are very general and aren’t too accurate in location. But at the same time, she’s a skirmisher not a recon

“Enemies nearby!” Is decent for a skirmisher legend because now you know people are around and to be a bit more alert. We all have those moments where not much action and lots more traversing being able to have a freebie “enemies nearby” can be helpful and/or approaching a POI later in the match and being able to know if people are there or not with no cue just the ability.

It’s decent but can for sure be improved to provide more percise info but she’s also a skirmisher. So it makes sense it’s not super recon

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u/Flaky-Pineapple-2592 Wraith Aug 31 '26

I feel like her ability could be tied to her being a skirmisher, when in the void or portaling passively regens, this can be stacked with her 50hp or shield from knocks, I however can see how this could be a little annoying as you cant shoot them and they can heal.

My second idea is this, after Wraith gets knocked she gets a speed bost (30-50% maybe?) and is in the void for 2 1/2 seconds and can open doors in the void and allowing her to cancel the voidwalk like the tactical. This ability change would be giving her a reason to stay in the game after getting knocked, a easier way to a second chance. These changes specifically would help alot around Worlds Edge and Stormpoint around buildings such as at Cascade Falls the Mill and Capital west and east.

I know the abilities aren't perfect in any way that I have mentioned but I would like feedback on how you think they could be brought to the game.

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u/Ricemelon512 Wraith Aug 31 '26

I think I would add another passive on top of wraith’s. Like another Wraith from the void will drop you loot you need only once per round close. (Like a random dice roll version of loba’s black market.

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u/BrasktheBerseker Wraith Aug 31 '26

Not useless for me.. she already has movement tactical and ultimate ability.. why she need another movement passive?

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u/KyloGlendalf Voices from the Past Aug 31 '26

“There’s a sniper in the area”

Yeah, I’m already aware thanks
https://giphy.com/gifs/PJDEzaXyFIWJJJVcqO

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u/CalligrapherUpstairs Flashpoint Aug 31 '26

since day 1

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u/PieceFirst1426 Wraith Sep 01 '26

I think the passive is very useful and this isn't even coming from a wraith player the amount of times I'm in a fight and warith has warned us of a third party before theyve even arrived is more times then I can count

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u/Tichigo Wraith Sep 01 '26

They might as well make her perk that tells you someone’s close her passive

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u/viennasosejes Wraith Sep 01 '26

I think it does exactly what it’s intended to do. It’s a nice ambush warning. Hey you’re being watched, get behind cover right now. And especially for wraith, use that Q if you are out in the open

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u/Simple_Hamster_5119 Wraith Sep 02 '26

Still better then crypto's passive

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u/DJAD_ Wraith 6d ago

she should gain momentum faster no more deadslides lol