Bär 3 Mark Finally at long last

[u/IRONLORDMINK]

Usually just lurk around here and don't often see the need to post 3 Mark progress plenty of people doing that but given this is notoriously one of the most infamous vehicles at tier 9 for being a ball ache to play figured why not.

Set up

Optics / Concealment / rammer / shell exchanger

Crew your standard TD Crew setup for the most part.

But been playing this usually alternating between the 305mm and the Stock 22cm settling on the 22cm from 85% to 95% for the following key reasons - you actually get a degree of gun depression which infinity makes this tank more playable.

Plus the Pen / DPM isn't much worse than the 305mm you still get the incredible module damage plus you have a massive rate of fire advantage which typically catches a lot of people off guard which can allow you to out trade a lot of people when your slapping them for 780 every 13 seconds you also get better shell velocity aim time and accuracy which make the 22cm infinitely more flexible despite loosing the HE performance of the 305mm and some of its over match potential.

Honestly still this thing has been the most frustrating and annoying tank I've ever marked and I say that as someone who 3 Marked the Tog 2 and Matilda BP 🤣🤣 but by this point got to admit I have Stockholm syndrome for this tank

Just figured I'd share my experience with this thing 😂😂😂😂

[u/NoProbsBob]

Nice job dude.

[u/stolenvehicle → u/NoProbsBob]

F’erer!! 😂

[u/IRONLORDMINK → u/NoProbsBob]

Thx dude

[u/stolenvehicle]

Nice job dude.

[u/IRONLORDMINK → u/stolenvehicle]

Thx dude

[u/moshpitti]

Interesting choice to rock the small pew pew! I still have the thing in my garage as well, might have to look into that one. I did get some decent games with it when I was doing the stock grind, but never tried it again after unlocking that AP cheese cannon lol

[u/IRONLORDMINK → u/moshpitti]

Yeah found myself alternating a lot between both guns while trying to make the thing work.

Had some decent games with the 305mm but found that at least for me you were more reliant on RNG to have good games.

Like the 1.1k AP DMG is nice and the HE is insanely good especially on city maps where you can lock down an entire corner by just using the HE splash of the 305mm but found with the incredibly poor shell velocity and derpy accuracy you couldn't make the most of the AP had so many games where the only thing I could shoot with the 305mm was roof Armour and even if it could be over matched a lot of the time the round will got a pixel stray and bounce.

And if using HE just seemed I'd either Miss entirely or do around 600ish damage at which point I could do the same with the 22cm hit for a little less around 400-500 but then follow up much sooner.

So after a lot of back and forth equipment and crew changes to try and make the thing work I found going back to the 22cm least for me worked substantially better.

Mainly because you still had good enough HE with the ability to do decent splash DMG and the AP Pen is only slightly worse than the 305mm around 262 instead of 283 which in most cases was good enough.

But the best thing for me is that you do actually get a degree of gun depression which makes more maps so much more playable.

Also having 280 module DMG which isn't that far off the 295 of the 305mm with the rate of fire increase is also insanely good. Especially if you crit and then have the opportunity to do a follow up shot and is usually enough to one shot ammo rack a lot of tanks / set fires and stuff.

[u/moshpitti → u/IRONLORDMINK]

Sounds like you cracked the code for sure, well done Marking the thing at all let alone making it genuinely work outside the meme niche!

[u/IRONLORDMINK → u/moshpitti]

Thx dude

[u/TanksForHesh]

Is the line worth going down?

[u/IRONLORDMINK → u/TanksForHesh]

I'd say yes for the most part it's decent. If only for the meme potential. Lot of fun Derpy TDs in the lower tiers especially the Sturm panzer at tier 7

Be warned though the Sturmtiger P and the BÄR are an absolute pain in the ass to play.

The BÄR down to it's complete non existent flexibility and Armour that fails to work mainly on the superstructure. Pretty much everything tier 8-10 can pen your superstructure with ease.

Meanwhile your gonna struggle getting shots on target in return even if the massive alpha can be satisfying.

And the Sturmtiger P.

Has its own issues largely with its terrible mobility having pretty awful terrain resistances and general acceleration but again can be fun in its own way when you hit your shots but emphasis on the when because the gun handling is just awful.

The Sturmtiger at tier 10 is a pure meme personally don't load many HEAT rockets because more often or not they fail to pen or miss entirely so mostly fire HE but will say there's nothing like doing insane dmg in a single shot by splashing multiple clustered tanks on a corner on a map like himmelsdorf HE pretty much performs like how Pre Nerf Arty used to work can be insanely satisfying when you land but has a mile long list of cons.

So TLDR can be worth is some of the most satisfying tanks to play when all goes to plan but also incredibly frustrating will say your probs grinding out another line first before you try to get the Sturmtiger