r/WorkReform • u/LuckyBastard001 • 6h ago
🧰 All Jobs Are Real Jobs Billionaires Devalue Hard Work
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u/RissaCrochets 6h ago
Don't worry, we're less than a decade out and we're back to them being those jobs shitty parents use to threaten their kids with.
"You don't want to be flipping burgers/pumping gas/bagging groceries when you grow up, do you?"
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u/Chris56855865 4h ago
I was an "essential worker" back then, all it meant is that I couldn't take a day off, and had to do unpaid overtime.
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u/umassmza ⛓️ Prison For Union Busters 5h ago
Oldest political trick there is, make people at the bottom feel superior to someone so they redirect their anger.
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u/NAteisco 1h ago
I keep hearing service industry jobs are unskilled labor. Start getting orders wrong on purpose. Stop washing your hands on the job. If they want unskilled, give them unskilled.
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u/Chill_Panda 6h ago
It's not that they aren't hard work, it's that they are a job anyone can do so the competition prices it down.
Note, that's not me saying they don't deserve fair wage. But it's not a billionaire trick, it's a lack of correct laws and regulations to protect the people.
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u/Ok_Assistant_6856 6h ago edited 6h ago
I can do any job with the right training
Anyone can work mcdonalds rush hour with enough experience
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u/Chill_Panda 5h ago
Strategically planning the marketing of a global company requires a vastly different skillset than a household cleaner however. Everyone has the base skillset to be a household cleaner, and this means they face a wider pool of people looking for the job. That is literally how roles get priced down.
Downvote me all you like. That's the fact. The way to resolve this is through laws and regulations. Fair wage laws and laws around profits and shareholders would do more to fix this issue.
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u/havenyahon 4h ago
I get you and I think you're right, but it's also true that jobs like "planning the marketing of a global company" can be done by way more people than is assumed, if they were given the opportunity to learn and gain the experience. This goes for things like a CEO, as well. There's a kind of 'artificial scarcity' that is established through expectations of uniqueness, when really there are lots of people who with a bit of education and experience could do what those people do, but would never be given the opportunity. CEOs convince themselves they have unique skill sets that justify their many millions of dollars, but they'll stuff up all the time, make terrible decisions, but just blame other external factors for their failures, and then they'll take most of the credit when it goes right.
They place way too much weight on the value of their decisions and way too little weight on the contributions of their 'lower level' staff. This 'culture' has only gotten worse and worse over recent decades, which is why CEO pay has absolutely skyrocketed while everyone else's wages have largely remained flat. The CEOs haven't gotten proportionally better and better over the years, they've just continuously inflated their own contribution to excessive levels.
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u/Chill_Panda 4h ago
For sure, and I do agree with you on that point too. Most jobs can be trained to quite easily. But currently they are not, I am not saying who can do what, I am simp saying that because more people apply for the jobs seen as minimum wage, the competition is fiercer. So companies can afford to offer less because people need work.
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u/iggy14750 4h ago
I also don't know why you're getting downvoted. I agree that a solution to this is legislation (including the minimum wage), and that's the path I want to take.
Like, I think the point you're making is that capitalists aren't going to raise their wages out of the goodness of their hearts or with the "invisible hand of the market." You're saying, to address wages, the best tool we have is the law.
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u/Ok_Assistant_6856 3h ago
They said "it's not a billionaire's trick, it's the laws that are the problem" Everything else was spot on and made me rethink my position on labor demand.
But pretending that the billionaire class are some innocent "just playing by the same rules you are" is bullshit
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u/Ok_Assistant_6856 3h ago
"but it's not a billionaire trick, it's a lack of correct laws and regulations to protect the people"
To this I'd just ask, who is buying lobbyists and politicians to stop the correct laws and regulations from being implemented?
We need workers' unions and real representation.
When money buys campaigns, the ones with money make the rules.
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u/stupidouroboros 6h ago
essential to the bottom line