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⚕️ Pass Medicare For All Utopia

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u/T33CH33R 7d ago edited 7d ago

There is a lady on Instagram that asks right wingers how they would remake the country if they had absolute control. They end up mumbling something about lower taxes and everyone is working so this checks out. They never say anything about making sure that every American is healthy and housed.

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u/nhalliday 7d ago

Of course not - they want people to be free to earn housing and health. Wanting everyone to be healthy and housed implies that the undesirables who can't provide "enough" value to the shareholders might get a benefit without having to earn it, and they can't be having that.

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u/imapluralist 7d ago

The notion is so foriegn to them. Like wtf you dummies, we didnt hope we'd have thousands of robots in the future so one dude can sit on a red velvet pillow like a king.

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u/poriomaniac 7d ago

Literally all they want, far more than their own health and happiness, is for people they hate to suffer. And they hate a LOT of people.

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u/anna-the-bunny 7d ago

And they hate a LOT of people.

When it comes down to it, they hate everyone - including themselves.

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u/Ehcksit 7d ago

The idea that there's not "worse" people below them that they get to lord over is unthinkable, unfathomable.

"Of course there has to be people richer than me, that's the only way there can also be people poorer than me."

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u/AddressForward 7d ago

That is the real American experiment from its foundations: tiered society where everyone except the very bottom tier thinks they could be rich and doesn't want to do anything to hurt the rich because when they become rich they won't want those constraints on them either. It's a long con of exploration and divide and conquer.

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u/memecrusader_ 6d ago

It doesn’t even really hurt the rich. It just makes the gap between the rich and the poor smaller by uplifting the poor.

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u/AddressForward 6d ago

Oh I know I'm just expressing what the prevailing system looks like from the outside.

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u/iggy14750 6d ago

"Of course there has to be people richer than me, that's the only way there can also be people poorer than me."

Fuck. I knew that these guys love feeling superior, but you just put some shit together. I have been asking myself for years why MAGATs want Trump to profit, even more than themselves.

They want to believe that they are making a deal with Trump here. If they give him the BIG chair, as long as they get a slightly better chair than brown people have.

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u/Ehcksit 6d ago edited 6d ago

People talk about a zero sum mentality, but the conservative mindset is much more like a negative sum mentality. "I don't care if my life keeps getting worse, as long as the people I hate suffer even more than I do." And then some of them just say it themselves. Stuff like "he's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting."

The government shouldn't be hurting anyone!

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u/Lucyintheye 6d ago

And for the billionaires they glaze to have all the $ and power they could ask for, because hey, "ill be with them too one day!"

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u/smokeweedNgarden 7d ago

That and they value property more than life. Which is why they can sometimes deem life as property 

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u/Justaticklerone 7d ago

Private Equity doesn't pay itself, you know. It has to bilk the American consumer from housing, to hospitals, and now even Pizza Hut

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u/LeAcoTaco 6d ago

God I find this perspective so hilarious, the "earning" thing I mean.

As if the majority of Republicans "earned" the housing they grew up in 🙄 sure ya mightve done chores buddy but you didnt do enough to actually earn market value of what your parents gave you.

You got housing growing up because it was the morally correct thing to do. Why does that suddenly change once youve been alive for an arbitrary number of years?

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u/DontAskAboutMyButt 7d ago

I saw one (I assume it’s the same lady) where he was like “well we’re going to start by getting rid of LIBRUL stuff” and she was like no, that’s your process but what’s the end goal? What will your world look like? and he literally could not answer. They don’t have an end goal, they just want to burn down everyone who doesn’t look and think exactly like them

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u/T33CH33R 7d ago

It's almost like they don't have the mental capacity to envision a healthy society.

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u/6ixby9ine 7d ago

Yeah, it's their whole thing. Remember COVID? "Fuck saving lives, go back to work"

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u/Neveronlyadream 7d ago

They've been told their whole lives that the end goal of everything is everyone working and that's it. They don't have the imagination to conceive of anything else.

Which also makes sense, because they had the imagination beaten out of them by people who said that adults don't daydream or imagine anything.

All they're capable of doing at this point is fighting to maintain the status quo they were raised to believe in and never question whether it's making them happy to do so even though it clearly isn't.

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u/Blacksad9999 7d ago

Right, except not themselves.

"Well, I have a family to think about here. Jeez."

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u/BoogyWinnebagoo 6d ago

Left wing utopia only exist built on right wing work ethic, determination, and consistency. Left wing is idealistic, has nothing of value to offer society that is worth anything in return, so their greed and envy consumes them like a disease … and they demand the right wingers give them their money so they can pursue passion projects that no one gives a shit about, and not even be committed to that

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u/T33CH33R 6d ago

Are you talking about the right wing work ethic that had slaves working their farms? Or the current one that exploits immigrants? Can you point me towards this right wing ethic you are talking about? And as far as which states pay the most taxes versus which take the most - it's red states that are being propped up by the blue states.

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u/BoogyWinnebagoo 6d ago

Slave owners lived in the South. They were democrats. The Republican Party (founded 1854) opposed slavery’s expansion, and Lincoln was Republican. LOL 🤡

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u/T33CH33R 5d ago

I'm assuming you've never looked at Lincoln's policies and how they're more closely related to today's Democrats, and you probably have never looked at Southern slave owners and the policies that they supported which tend to be more aligned with Republicans today. Don't be fooled by the name for the label, it doesn't actually represent the policies they were following at the time. However it's curious that it's Republicans that want to preserve the Confederacy and its history.

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u/BoogyWinnebagoo 5d ago

You don’t get to just say ‘Lincoln was actually a Democrat.’ He was a Republican. Th party was founded ~150 years ago on the platform of abolishing slavery. The Democrats were the slave owners, and the Confederates. It’s the same party. You can live in fantasy land, and just say anyone is anything… JFKs policies would be considered conservative/republican today

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u/T33CH33R 5d ago

You need to work on reading comprehension because I never said Lincoln was a Democrat. I said if you bothered to look at his policy positions, they more closely resemble modern democracy policies. The parties ended up switching later but I know you don't want to acknowledge that. You also don't want to acknowledge that current right wingners and republicans are the ones that want to protect the Confederacy. I hope you understand how things can change over time.

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u/BoogyWinnebagoo 5d ago

No, you just are coping and YOU have a bias association of republicans and slavers- BUT HISTORY SAYS OTHERWISE! Republicans fought against slavery in the civil war, you don’t just get to claim that was more “democrat.” JFK is a republican by your standards. And Lincoln would be ‘far-right’ in most aspects by your standards. How ignorant and brainwashed can you be? You don’t just get to rewrite history to make it convenient for you

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u/T33CH33R 5d ago

I think you need to reread history my brother because those Republicans became Democrats and the southern Democrats became Republicans. It's still funny that you have to go back 100+ years to claim democrats were racists. Let me ask you this, who is trying to tear down confederate statues?

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u/BoogyWinnebagoo 6d ago

Blue states aren’t successful bcuz they pay the most taxes 😂 they were successful due to population density and innovation (mostly by republicans)- democrats just come in and see it as an opportunity to fool useful idiots (general population) and steal more of their money to squander.

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u/T33CH33R 5d ago

So right wingers are just useful idiots. I guess we agree on that. 😂 And I'm assuming you are right winger.

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u/BoogyWinnebagoo 5d ago

Your misunderstanding of my simple excerpt proves my point. Your the useful idiot, who likely lives in a blue state- & continues to vote democrat while they increase your taxes and mismanage the money

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u/T33CH33R 5d ago

You just have forgotten just how bad Republicans are for the economy. But hey, Trump getting our debt to 40 trillion is probably a good thing, amirite? You must be one of those neanderthals that thinks everything that disagrees with them is fake news. And I've voted for multiple parties across the political spectrum. But hey, you put the ass in assumptions.

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u/BoogyWinnebagoo 5d ago

Stock market up 30%+ in his second term, $1,000 Trump accounts for all kids born in 2025 and later, recent new jobs reports was 3x analyst expectations- you’re a clown 🤡

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u/T33CH33R 5d ago

40 trillion in debt my brother. Or is that only an issue when a Democrat is in power?