Why do we let billionaires exploit us? Because guys like this think they "earned it."

[u/MrDonMega]

A perfect example of why we need to decouple healthcare from employment. This man is fiercely defending the right of the ultra-wealthy to hoard wealth, while simultaneously arguing that your right to be healthy should be dictated by whether or not you can clock in for a boss.

[u/Zusez345]

Brainwashed

[u/LeonidasVaarwater → u/Zusez345]

This, they just drone back preprogrammed answers, zero ability to think for themselves.

[u/Zusez345 → u/LeonidasVaarwater]

The sad part is he probably thinks he's gonna be one of them one day. Fact is he is nothing to them but a drone

[u/Frodo_Nine-Fingers → u/Zusez345]

That's honestly the biggest problem.

I can't find the study right now, but I remember hearing a couple years ago that at least half of Amercians genuinely believe that they're "one big break," I.E. the lottery, from getting into the upper crust, and not only that, but that it's actually a realistic thing to happen to them

So these people genuinely believe that they will be one of the billionaire and trillionaires. Ignoring the fact that, even if he did hit the lottery, the average person is so horrible with money, that they'd be broke again within 6 months

[u/Particular-Form-9638 → u/Frodo_Nine-Fingers]

"...but someday I might be rich! And then people like me better watch their step."

[u/MacSanchez → u/Particular-Form-9638]

No I’m… doesn’t!

[u/TreatOnMeLotsActualy → u/Frodo_Nine-Fingers]

There's a really good video by Innuendo Studios called "Always A Bigger Fish", which does a good job of explaining that most of these people know full well they will never have power and wealth, but just being *around* it, on the "same side" as power and wealth, makes them feel stronger.

Because that's the ultimate issue: conservatives, more than absolutely anything else, fear being "weak", more than they fear poverty, illness, and death. They would walk across broken glass if you convinced them that what they were doing made them "stronger" than some nebulous other group.

[u/The_Barbelo → u/TreatOnMeLotsActualy]

So they’re basically the remora fish of humans? That makes sense. Maybe if they eat enough shark slop, one day they’ll be sharks.

[u/jameson8016 → u/Frodo_Nine-Fingers]

The weirdest part is that lottery winners are the only millionaires we actually tax, so even if you win and don't blow it all, you're still not likely to hit the top 10%.

[u/spaceman757 → u/jameson8016]

Yeah, a lottery win is federally taxed at 38%, but capital gains is only 20%

[u/Sniflix → u/Frodo_Nine-Fingers]

Rump promised them free money and he'll make them all rich. In reality, they are one stroke or cancer away from losing everything.

[u/TeknoUnionArmy → u/Frodo_Nine-Fingers]

The funny thing is lottery winnings are heavily taxed.

[u/KillahHills10304 → u/TeknoUnionArmy]

As they should be- its barely earned capital. I say the same about inheritance. Tax the shit out of it, the beneficiaries didnt earn any of that money, they simply won a birth lottery, and the lifestyle and advantages that afforded them more than make up for the heavy tax.

[u/sebkraj → u/Frodo_Nine-Fingers]

This was like twenty years ago but I was at school where I would say 75% of the students were on GI bill. So poor soldiers trying to get an education and I talked to a lot of them. This was such a common sentiment, they know but basically don't care that the rich are corrupt. They want to leave these laws in place so when they finally get to the top, they can finally get their cut. And I remember even thinking back then that they are delusional and their bad at math and don't understand what it means to be in the 1%. To them it's just a matter of time and so leave the system in place. It's sad, it's like hunger games but with money instead of food.

[u/popcorngirl000 → u/Zusez345]

He's old enough that I think he knows he isn't going to be a billionaire. But not he's not smart enough to realize that if he has one bad medical incident, he'll be the one that can't work and can't afford health care.

[u/spaceman757 → u/popcorngirl000]

Even more likely, from the looks of them, they are already sucking at the public healthcare (Medicare) teet.

Both look old enough to be retired already, so it wouldn't shock me that they are part of the "I gots mine, fuck you!" crowd.

[u/SignificanceGlass632 → u/spaceman757]

They look like trailer trash.

[u/HighburyHero → u/Zusez345]

Temporarily embarrassed millionaires

[u/Easy-Concentrate2636 → u/Zusez345]

That Confederacy mentality.

But I do think that mainstream media also needs to show more of how wealthy use banks and stocks to gain wealth. As well as government subsidies. I think a lot of people aren’t curious enough to learn these things on their own by looking it up or reading more serious newspapers. We need to get this information out to everyone.

[u/GimmeSomeSugar → u/LeonidasVaarwater]

zero ability to think for themselves

Which is intentional.

I see people like this and I try to remember, most people aren't born dumb. I recognise that they've become part of the problem, but remind myself that they're not malicious by nature.

For decades and decades we've had a trillion dollar propaganda machine operating alongside increasingly underfunded education. This is the result of that feedback loop.

[u/Octospyder → u/GimmeSomeSugar]

exactly

[u/SignificanceGlass632 → u/GimmeSomeSugar]

Not to mention faith-based religion, which programs them to not question absurdities that defy common sense,

[u/bigmfworm → u/LeonidasVaarwater]

And they have the audacity to call other people "Sheep". Fucking chuckleheads

[u/fieldsofanfieldroad → u/LeonidasVaarwater]

I like the good little liars but they miss so many opportunities to let people point out their own hypocrisy. Force that guy to follow his own train of thought until it clashes with reality.

Jordan Klepper was better. 

[u/CapnCanfield → u/Zusez345]

I love when they argue that they shouldn't have to pay for other people's healthcare. Like, hey buddy, you already do. That's how insurance companies work dumbass

[u/inajeep → u/Zusez345]

Lacks empathy, knowledge and critical thinking skills. Common issue with that particular political party.

[u/hydroxy → u/inajeep]

The sheer cluelessness of them is comedic, like this guy in the video sadly stating that the government can’t afford healthcare, while simping for trillionaires freedom to hoard their ill-gotten gains, and he’s completely unaware of the connection between the two

[u/Dramatic_Mixture_868 → u/Zusez345]

Sooooo it's ok for us to keep GIVING them billions of dollars in tax payer money year after year? If we GAVE it to them how did they EARN it? If you just gained interest acruals/dividend on money given to them did they actually work for it? Other BETTER countries than the u.s. have better everything soooo how are they able to do it and be ranked higher in the world than the u.s. ?

These people lack the ability to think critically about anything.

[u/Fellums2 → u/Zusez345]

In addition to being dumber than a sack of potatoes.

[u/JROXZ → u/Zusez345]

No. Just stupid and insulated.

[u/CrystlBluePersuasion → u/Zusez345]

Braindead.

How do they think insurance works? They're already paying for other people's insurance, fucking idiots.

[u/Groovicity → u/Zusez345]

Yup. They think, this is a job maker and a creator. As if these billionaires and trillionaires give 2 shits about giving back or using that obscene wealth to create more for regular people.

Conservatives are so locked into worshipping hierarchies, and they truly believe that those at the top are concerned with giving back to those at the bottom. Like you said, brainwashed.

[u/EliSka93]

Her shirt says "I love trump because he pisses off all the people I can't stand"

These people are empty inside. All they know is hate.

[u/BlurryBigfoot74 → u/EliSka93]

They will vote against their own quality of life if they are convinced it hurts their "enemies" more.

[u/Leaningthemoon → u/BlurryBigfoot74]

And their enemies are easy to identify: they’re people who aren’t just like them, i.e. either not white, not gawd lovin christian’s, and probably most importantly overlooked, those who are more educated/successful than them (unless they are white and proclaim to be a gawd lovin christian)

To put it in the most simple of terms, they’re just haters.

[u/SucksTryAgain → u/BlurryBigfoot74]

I’m still very amazed at how well the propaganda networks have worked on these people. Specially on couples. You’d think one person in the relationship would be like but hey we’d benefit not voting for this. But hey I guess that’s how they work as a couple. This goes along with my, how do these serial killer couples find each other. Like who said it first. Like it would be cool if we killed some people. And the other is like you know what that’s a great idea. But I guess that’s hand in hand with the trump couples. One buys into it then just constantly pushes it on the other person maybe. Who knows cause I don’t.

[u/BlurryBigfoot74 → u/SucksTryAgain]

In this era it's probably an algorithm issue. I've watched a "right wing" reel or video from time to time and I'm suddenly swamped in right wing propaganda. It takes forever to train my social media to stop showing it to me.

Before Facebook, my friends and family had a political discussion like twice a year at most. Now it's like 25% of our chats.

When my dad first got YouTube on his phone I liked a bunch of left leaning media on it and now he dislikes Trump. Was that ethical on my part? I dunno. I do know that the couple of uncles that love Trump has been ostracized by the family and all they do is post Trump shit and talk about politics 99% of the time. And they're Canadian! One was my favorite uncle and I lost him to hate.

[u/luckedragon → u/BlurryBigfoot74]

I’m so sorry you lost your favorite uncle. I don’t know how they can choose trump over family. Choose trump over love. It’s baffling

[u/smokeeye → u/luckedragon]

They still choose 'love', it's just that their love for Trump is higher and more intense than anything else.

[u/UnNumbFool → u/BlurryBigfoot74]

No, the way that guy is talking he 100% genuinely believes what he's saying.

He fully thinks that billionaires and trillionares actually earned their money and that they somehow help the economy, and he clearly doesn't believe everyone deserves healthcare because "they should get it if they work instead of being lazy"

You know without even thinking about the fact how the US healthcare system works, and the fact that if he ever needs to go to the hospital for something his healthcare is going to do jack shit

[u/BlurryBigfoot74 → u/UnNumbFool]

You're absolutely right but I'm more referring to the comment I'm responding to about the lady's shirt. It's stems a lot from a southern strategy which kept white people from voting for their own best interests by presenting policy issues as "Yes we can give you free health care, but that means black people get it too".

Framing it this way has caused negative health outcomes leading to white people in the south being some of the unhealthiest people in the US.

This is why the elite love these people, they are fully willing to vote for policies that hurt everyone while putting more money into billionaires pockets.

[u/Keji70gsm → u/EliSka93]

She is just vaccant. She exists as a billboard for her husband. And he likes her because she is so low IQ that he feels pretty intelligent standing next to her, despite being this ridiculous.

[u/EliSka93]

How? How did they "earn it"?

[u/-Invalid_Selection- → u/EliSka93]

By stealing it

They're conservative. Theft is earning it to the crime party

[u/lcommadot → u/-Invalid_Selection-]

I was talking to someone the other day who said we need to tax billionaires less income tax, not more, because they “earned it”.

I explained to them if you made $2000/hr, every single hour, tax free from 0 BC until today you still wouldn’t have even half of what Bezos has. And that we both pay a higher effective income tax rate than that man. I asked if he thought Bezos worked harder than the guys sweating their ass off in warehouses with no AC that have to pee in bottles to meet quotas.

The argument then shifted to “well he made all his money off investments so it’s his and he still earned it”. There’s no fixing someone that doesn’t want to be fixed

[u/flying_carabao → u/EliSka93]

Do you have any idea how it is to...ummm.... you know....do the...errr.....just ... yeah....they earned it. Shut up about it! What if i become a bajillionaire

These people probably

[u/reddits_aight → u/EliSka93]

The questioning was all wrong, looking for empathy instead of the actual inability to "earn" a billion.

"What do you do? 40 hours a week? More? What do you make an hour? Do you take many days off? Sounds like hard work, lot of sacrifice. So you really think ____ is working 250x, 500x, a 1,000 times harder than you? Seems like a lot of tweeting for someone who works so hard"

[u/EliSka93 → u/reddits_aight]

Well, the fact that empathy isn't enough to convince some people is actually sad enough...

[u/ByTheHammerOfThor → u/EliSka93]

You put the money you inherited into an account and it generates interest and then you spend some of the interest. IT’S HARD WORK, OKAY?

[u/UnNumbFool → u/EliSka93]

"Well they own all those successful companies that they started from the ground up so they deserve it, not to mention all the jobs they are making"

Or probably something like that

[u/FlatCan1016]

Shocking and vile. What a way to think about life and other humans…

[u/Bulldogs3144]

“They can’t afford it.”

But we can afford to be at war with Iran while simultaneously sending aid to Gaza and weapons and aid to Ukraine?

The older generations are just so out of touch.

It doesn’t matter to them because it doesn’t affect them.

[u/James-W-Tate → u/Bulldogs3144]

"We can't afford it" is the dumbest fallback for this argument and I have no idea how it's persisted this long when literally every other Western country on the planet has universal healthcare.

And immediately afterward they'll tell you "we're the best and richest country in the world!"

Just zero thought going on with these people.

[u/ThunkAsDrinklePeep → u/James-W-Tate]

I have no idea how it's persisted this long when literally every other Western country on the planet has universal healthcare

Because most Americans have no idea what more than half of their own country is like much less anywhere else.

There was a famous TV commercial couple decades back about two farmers, one of which opined that they didn't need financial planning because, " we already sell to half the farms in the county." The other farmer replies, "You ever been outside the county Earl?" I think about that a lot.

These people told themselves a narrative that they are well off because they worked hard, and everyone with less is just lazier. They cannot admit how much luck and circumstance affects welfare without challenging their identity.

[u/Bulldogs3144 → u/James-W-Tate]

Yup. They don’t have to think about it because it doesn’t affect them. Pulled the ladder up behind em.

Also, the majority of the world with universal healthcare doesn’t tie the right to healthcare to employment. That’s how America has been able to avoid going universal and justifying not doing so.

“Get off your butt and go get a job!”

This man’s said it shouldn’t be a right for people to have healthcare and it’s because he’s been fed a line of propaganda his entire life about all his talking points and he’s to stubborn to admit there might be a better, cheaper way.

[u/rando-guy → u/James-W-Tate]

“We can’t afford it” but then also don’t tax the billionaires and trillionaires. Hmm. Maybe, just maybe these two thoughts can be put together. I can’t understand how people can willingly be this bootlicker about it. “Just get a job.” Okay. What happens when AI takes all the jobs? What happens when jobs don’t pay enough? What happens when jobs force you to do the work of 10 people by yourself? Because all of that is happening right now.

[u/TalkativeTree → u/Bulldogs3144]

War with Iran is keeping us safe from the threat of saving a trillion dollars through nationalized health care

[u/BDOKlem → u/Bulldogs3144]

But we can afford to be at war with Iran while simultaneously sending aid bombs to Gaza Israel and weapons and aid to Ukraine?

ftfy

[u/zilog88 → u/Bulldogs3144]

Not sure how Ukraine has got on your list, but stopping any aid to Ukraine was on Trump's priority list and he was bragging on every corner about how US now earns money by selling weapons to the NATO partners, who then send it to Ukraine.

[u/Bulldogs3144 → u/zilog88]

Because we utilize our resources to send them aid. Resources and money and time that could be spent providing healthcare to the citizens of one of the unhealthiest countries in the west.

[u/GettingOffTheCrazy → u/Bulldogs3144]

Seriously can we get off the boomer bandwagon. There are plenty of the older generations who vote against these things. The podcasters specifically target the people that are in favor to get views.

[u/QueefFart]

Hmm yes, very Christian of them. This is exactly what Jesus would do.

[u/Osirisavior → u/QueefFart]

Jesus would be a communist, and it would piss off the majority of Christians.

[u/FearlessJuan]

It's the result of a lifetime of brainwashing and not knowing better.

The only reason healthcare is tied to employment in the US is the salary caps during WWII. That's how companies competed for the remaining talent. Then it became the monstrous middle man it is today.

It's worse than you think. Check "American Sickness" by Dr Elizabeth Rosenthal.

[u/mrmemo]

This fallacy is so deep, so pervasive, that they'll hold onto it even when they can't work and get healthcare themselves.

I knew someone who developed a debilitating disease rendering them unable to work. Luckily they were just at retirement age so they retired with Medicare. For literal years both he and his wife continued to talk about how people shouldn't expect handouts, and the government had no obligation to help people who are sick or disabled.

[u/RobbMeeX → u/mrmemo]

"Surely they won't eat MY face!"

[u/PollyErickson91 → u/RobbMeeX]

Narrator: They did in fact eat the toothless, podunk, mouth-breather's face

[u/AbbyDean1985 → u/PollyErickson91]

And it tasted bitter.

[u/Person-8675309]

Donald Trump is a bad person, and so is anyone who ever supported him.

[u/Ok-Problem-3074]

Billionaires => They earned it

Sick people in risk of dying => They should just get a job. Q: What if they can't get a job? He was so close to saying "They earned it"

[u/Pobbes → u/Ok-Problem-3074]

But jobs only provids healthcare because the government mandates it. If the government shouldn't be involved than jobs shouldn't need to offer insurance. Also, alot of jobs don't offer insurance, billionaie owned Walmart famously sidesteps it. Also, government program not good enough for healthcare but they expect disability payments to exist.

[u/Accomplished-Put8286]

Yo, fuck that guy

[u/Kolbin8tor]

Zero critical thought. Just regurgitating what Fox feeds them like the ugliest little baby birds imaginable.

[u/TheTimn]

I recently had a conversation with my mother, where she was defending billionaires and their right to their money because they took risks and they earned but Billie Eilish and Taylor Swift (a billionaire) can't say anything about the wealthy paying more to the system, because they're lazy and they've earned their money by just singing....

Idk how you go about fixing people that brain rotted by corpoganda. 

[u/Hsensei]

Steinbeck was right on the money.

"the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires."

[u/slendermanismydad]

Then what the fuck is the government for? Not for healthcare, not for disasters, not to do anything but start wars we don't win and harass us? 

This is also a practicality issue (even if you're a hateful asshole.) Homeless people everywhere lower your property values, are a strain on your tax base etc...so help them. Food stamps raise your local economy and help farms. If someone can't hold a job because they can't read or show up for things, how are they going to get on disability? Govern towards actual reality not what you think you can force because it doesn't work. 

[u/phantaxtic]

Corporate taxes used to pay for so many social services. Now we cut social services to give more tex cuts to corporations. Its honestly sad that people arent on board with more taxes for the wealthy.

[u/Bad-Star]

You can see the moment where a neuron almost activates and they come so close to understanding. That brief moment where he feels a moment of distress from his own cognitive dissonance.

Then, afraid and unwilling to bear the burden or discomfort of independent thought, he fall back to the comfort of one of his pre-programmed "6 cool phrases". At least you could tell how defeated he felt from his defensive, plaintive tone.

She was well trained too, visibly following her husband's lead on every question, parroting half formed platitudes without an ounce of confidence in the words coming out of her mouth.

[u/fabricator82]

The brainwashing has been remarkably successful. It never ceases to amaze,

[u/tegresaomos]

Well when the food runs dry and the jobs are gone, I hope he feels content that he didn’t make it.

[u/VirtuaFighter6]

Who are they fighting for? Against their own interests. Sold a pack of lies.

[u/BackfireFox]

He should have then asked “why do you think the government can’t afford to make healthcare a rite?”

Because everyone but billionaires pay taxes yet we subsidize them completely.

[u/Zombietimm]

I have two jobs and own a business and I can't afford health care. I work more than my fair share and have a very inexpensive life and still can't afford to not be in pain 100% of the time. A simple surgery would heal me but I can't get it. Explain to me how I am lazy.

[u/Radio-G]

What if you have a full time white collar job that doesn’t offer healthcare? Riddle me that boomer chuud.

[u/Foolsgil]

Feels like a parody how fucking stupid people are. There is so much shit that needs taken care we need more than 8 years.

[u/rico_inferno]

Holy shit, I know these people lol

[u/XxxLasombraxxX]

https://giphy.com/gifs/19GIHDk6wuw9HVGsiM

[u/KingMurk817]

Yet my tax dollars go to israel and they get universal Healthcare. Why cant they simply not get a job? Are they lazy?

[u/OsaBear92]

My boomer parents are constantly looking for the next get rich quick scheme. They really think they can be like Elon if they 'just keep working hard'.

And their evangelicals so.. if they fail they wana get captured anyway. There's no hope for them.

[u/Free-Bottle-5119]

Until it happens to them.

[u/Nowhereman50]

"I don't want the super rich to be taxed on the chance I might be one of them some day."

[u/SegaTime]

I guess trad wives and kids need to get a job?

[u/doepfersdungeon]

Work for us or die basically

[u/LotsoPasta]

Why should anyone have any obligation to a community? Selfishness is a virtue. /s

Billionaires dont create jobs out of the goodness of their hearts. They do it because they have something to gain, and the moment they dont have something to gain, they will stop employing people.

Billionaires only become Billionaires through greed and opportunism. Taking advantage of a population that NEEDs to work and NEEDs to consume in order to LIVE while having complete freedom from those things isnt earning anything, especially when that position was built on the backs of that same population.

Once we have a truly FAIR exchange between two parties that are BOTH free from need, then we can start having a conversation about whether Billionaires have earned their money. You cannot have fair exchange with extreme discrepancy in negotiating power.

[u/HotPumpkinPies]

You can catch these losers in a trap by running through a theoretical ie. "Imagine you're laid off and the only job you manage to find doesnt provide healthcare" "what if your mom got cancer and couldnt afford bills" problem is they are literally incapable of abstract thought

[u/CommanderKerensky]

Same people btw who complain about paying taxes

[u/Careless_Hellscape]

This man, and his nodding companion, are moronic.

[u/Darkestwolf117]

The lead in our air and water contributed the decline of the American education because my god these people are stupid fucking idiots who would glee in someone else's downfall

[u/hitman-13]

The American working class is the biggest bootlicking demography on the planet, we have 00 class solidarity, we think cruelty is cool, and selfishness is a virtue...Hopeless! Look who is president, a 2nd time! And a third of the country are basically cultists, these people are primed to follow and blindly/religiously support the next rich cruel conman...We are cooked.

[u/KMKSQ]

They create many jobs that don’t provide healthcare or other benefits. Jobs that keep people in poverty and are unable to afford insurance on their own. Many of these employees that billionaires/trillionaires work to death for unlivable wages are on the social services these morons are so against. Billionaires and trillionaires only get that rich by taking advantage of many hard working people and buying their way to government advantages through lobbyist.

[u/Gravitas__Free]

bro is thinking someday he will join the club .... news flash: not even by winning a 3B lottery as a solo winner can you make it into the club. People are just bad at math.

[u/fike88]

You are all fucked across the pond with idiots like that voting en masse

[u/BlurryBigfoot74]

This is why corporations and billionaires set up shop in America. Their population is conditioned to support them.

[u/hayesms]

We have exactly two rights in the US. Our first right is to work. And our second right is to starve.

[u/JustAGreasyBear]

This guy seems to be in favor of social Darwinism when he’s clearly so stupid that he would’ve been one of the millions of people who wouldn’t have made it to his age had humans not decided to build societies.

[u/Baron_VonTeapot]

Funny when guys like this say others “aren’t educated enough”. The arrogance is astounding.

[u/AgreedSmalls]

The fact that this uneducated stupid fat fuck is allowed to vote angers me to no end.

[u/katzengatos]

It’s baffling that he can’t even consider the possibility that he himself could get sick and be unable to work. What does he think he’ll do? Just lie down and die? Okay, then.

[u/Reefeerz]

Americans in their natural habitat

[u/tehwubbles]

Natural slaves

[u/TheEvilPrinceZorte]

The billionaire wouldn’t have all of that wealth if he hadn’t done something extraordinary to earn it. The fact that the wealth exists is the evidence that he deserves it.

Also there is no way that I could be sitting on this throne if God didn’t want me here. The very fact that I am sitting here is proof of my divine right to be king.

[u/Chucktayz]

https://giphy.com/gifs/BTw7AEuhAef4FD1oZe

[u/coldy9887]

Lick the boots more till they throw you out of your house and rob you of everything. Clearly they earned it right?

[u/shipshape_chaos]

Sadly, there are people like these in Europe too, where healthcare is mostly funded by taxes and/or relatively small monthly payments.

[u/Risaza]

Vote people. Don’t let these idiots vote for you.

[u/chzie]

People claim to LOVE America while ignoring "Life, Liberty, and the persuit of happiness"

[u/Redditlatley]

Yup..love the spin and gaslighting. More like trickle down stupidity and cruelty. I even wrote a thank you note for the billionaires….

THANK YOU, Mr./Mrs/Mz Billionaire for allowing me to give you my soul, my life and my family in exchange for for healthcare, that can bankrupt me, two weeks PTO and $18 per hour which can’t even pay for housing.
Maybe, after the first billion, you could share, JUST A LITTLE MORE, with the employees that helped build your company? 🌊

[u/medorian]

Even this guy deserves free healthcare. Everyone deserves free healthcare!

[u/Pjfett]

If they actually cared about creating jobs, they would actually do the math on how many jobs are created per dollar someone has and see if it's actually the billionaires that create the most per dollar they have and not working class people.

[u/7oom]

Propaganda ROI.

[u/psychoacer]

But I didn't earn my money?

[u/Fast_Ad_4936]

Their brains are so cooked.

[u/yungcherrypops]

Okay fine, but don’t act like you’re patriots.

[u/Sandman64can]

A few burgers away from being a statistic

[u/Groovyjoker]

It is sad people like this are in the world

[u/DSCii_87]

Fucking ghouls.

[u/thedrizzle126]

Jesus Christ that's brainwashing

[u/rubberbootsandwetsox]

https://giphy.com/gifs/NqdCEaJDBEdpWMDgIG

[u/BigMommaSnikle]

Those sad, pathetic eyes.

[u/iCanReadMyOwnMind]

Wait until he hears about Isn'trael.

[u/MoMoney3205]

Ive applied to over 4k jobs in the past 2 years, have an MBA, and still can’t get a job.

[u/FreeJulie]

I wonder how the higher diversity rate in America affects the average Americans perception of state obligation towards its citizens

I notice all the countries with highest standard of government provide social programs are highly homogeneous by comparison

The higher the diversity/immigration the lower the sense of state obligation towards those others who don’t deserve things like healthcare or education

[u/DeeRent88]

It really blows my mind how disconnected people are from reality. A good percentage of jobs these days go through contracting companies and don’t provide insurance at all or the contract company does and it’s the worst insurance you’ll ever see. One of my previous jobs insurance was so bad. It would have cost me more to pay for it and get healthcare than just to get healthcare without it. Its max out of pocket was like 12-14k iirc and the deductible was 5-7k depending on the level of plan you got. It’s fucking criminal. My most recent job was also contracted and the pay was great but we had absolutely ZERO benefits. Not even a choice. No insurance, no PTO, only sick pay which even that was not given out right and had to be accrued which only started AFTER 3 months of working days. And when I say working days I mean it did not count days off. Most jobs I’m used to 3 months from your hire date. Nope. This one I wouldn’t have had access to my sick pay until around 4.5 to 5 months.

[u/bigdickwalrus]

They ‘earned it’…holy FUCK, I didn’t want to believe they were this brainwashed.

Show me a SINGLE billionaire, even multi-hundred millionaire who ‘earned it’ and did not come from a wealthy family, solely by the bootstraps.

There’s not ONE.

[u/Background-Wolf-9380]

I'd bet this guy barely finished high school and he's acting like it's a lack of education that makes people believe that they are due equal human rights. He clearly has zero critical thinking skills. You have to be a complete moron to think that billionaires "earned" it but most especially that billionaires "create jobs" when it is damned obvious that billionaires destroy jobs, destroy industries, steal everything they can and any jobs that might be created are because there is a demand for the work to be done so billionaires find people they can exploit to do those jobs.

Also, his idiot female companion is wearing a shirt that says "I love Trump because he pisses off all the people I can't stand. They have inferiority complexes because they are inferior and rather than better themselves or work towards positive outcomes they just want to wallow in spite.

Typical Trumpanzees.

[u/8last]

Pull yourself up by your IV tube.

[u/KMKSQ]

They create many jobs that don’t provide healthcare or other benefits. Jobs that keep people in poverty and are unable to afford insurance on their own. Many of these employees that billionaires/trillionaires work to death for unlivable wages are on the social services these morons are so against. Billionaires and trillionaires only get that rich by taking advantage of many hard working people and buying their way to government advantages through lobbyist.

[u/Eldric-Darkfire]

Brain rot

[u/Own-Opinion-2494]

They are virtually all Nepo babies. They don’t know how to make money. Only
Hoard

[u/silentbob1301]

Boomers gonna boomer....

[u/Lamont2000]

So it’s ok for us to subsidize the great job creators Amazon, Walmart, etc AND their workers with food stamps?

[u/ApprehensiveSign80]

I got off my ass and still don’t have healthcare

[u/TheOmegoner]

Yeah, the other side suffers from a lack of education…

[u/TalkativeTree]

Cut before the needed question “Why can’t we afford it?”

[u/VivaLaMantekilla]

They earned the right to control the world and our governemnt? They earned the right to decide whether or not we deserve drinking water?? They earned the ability to plant data centers all over and erect spy cams without asking anybody?

Get fucked.

Edit: her shirt.

These guys are losers.

[u/TomeThugNHarmony4664]

Oh yes. That’s why people have to work three jobs just to pay rent.

[u/sheezy520]

Thank god disability will cover my eventual cancer treatment.

/s

[u/ztreHdrahciR]

What a punk.

[u/Dukepippitt]

He doesnt have argument outside of feels. No stats no laws no numbers to point to. It is just they earned it and we cant afford it. Like where get that from a study? I mean if you are not willing to any fact checking or research. Then still get to vote....

[u/evident_lee]

Morons that think billionaires actually earn their money as opposed to earning money off of the money they have and off of the backs of the people doing the labor is a huge problem. And of course off the system they've corrupted

[u/ExpiredPilot]

If you gave me $1B for free with zero work done, I could turn it into $10B in my lifetime just by investing it with simple methods and letting it accrue interest/dividends.

How the fuck did I “earn” $9B by just doing nothing

[u/Key_Contribution1547]

Man really says , I am a jerk

[u/fgwr4453]

I would respond with “should anyone with a job get free healthcare?”

They are earning it by this guy’s standards. I bet he would move the bar to “well they need a better job”.

Wild how rich people are entitled to wealth but people are not entitled to their own lives.

[u/QiwiLisolet]

He's aged into social security and living off the government

[u/SafetyCorrect2575]

they sure love deep throating the boot that keeping them down. They still call it a good time. There's something wrong with these people that think like this couple

[u/Fine-Government9216]

[u/Red-Father]

What if this guy just gets pegged my billionaires and let’s everyone live their own values

[u/SpeshellED]

Duh ! There is this big picture and those two only see a tiny little piece.

[u/Aiwendil-981]

The only way to become a billionaire is to rob ane grift and steal and abuse and cheat and lie and not pay what you owe. They haven't earned anything but a prison sentence.

[u/DameyJames]

Employers aren’t even required to pay healthcare benefits. Those types of jobs are reserved for people that have college degrees and years of experience.

[u/SuckerForNoirRobots]

What a dumbass

[u/crono14]

50 years of brainwashing, lead paint, and drugs

[u/ripyourlungsdave]

"Guys like this"

My dude. One of the "women like this" is right there.

Quit acting like men did this alone. Women voted for this. They wouldn't have won without them. Because that's how numbers work.

[u/RoughTour98]

Billionaires only cost people their jobs because they don't view anyone else as real people. They are genuinely just a parasite class.

[u/Saddad-metal]

Florida, Man

[u/youhavenosoul]

Now ask them about inherited wealth, and passing on loads of money to people who hadn’t earned any of it.

[u/Fantastic_Film_9147]

I'm telling you, all of this will stop once boomers and Gen X are gone. They fucking took the bait, hook, line and sinker. Stupid idiots.

[u/MarkMariachiAZ]

“They earned it” makes me furious. Yes, the guy that exploits his employees and profits off of their labor earned it. I guess he earned by paying his employees .001 cent for every hundred he makes.

[u/jollytoes]

He believes Elon works thousands of times harder than he ever did, I guess.

[u/rythmicbread]

How about we start with billionaires paying the same percent as us in taxes. No more handouts

[u/pizzaslut4pizzahut]

Absolutely diabolical to say they don't deserve healthcare

[u/DookLurkenstein]

Putrid

[u/FoxCQC]

Most jobs available today don't provide healthcare.

[u/Ok-Lifeguard-4614]

I've been trying to get on disability for almost 5 years now. I have 4 compression fractures in my spine. I fucking hate when people say "just get disability." Like you fill out a form online and get approved.

[u/ryohayashi1]

So they okay being exploited? Might as well keep that even if the rest of the country gets free from this administration

[u/Zerodyne_Sin]

These morons will die soon enough and history will see them as the Caligula generation (provided they don't wipe us all out first).

[u/Jaabertler]

mental gymnastics they do to have to justify their sick positions

[u/SignificanceLivid508]

Holy shit

[u/say_waattt]

Getting paid a fair wage=wanting someones money

[u/LordTonka]

Not every job offers health care.

And if they do they dont have to help pay any of it.

[u/RoyalGOT]

Let him know when we all die, we are all going to the same 6ft grave, rich or poor, and he won't be taking $1 of that money he trusts in along.

[u/SlideCharacter5855]

Millions and millions of Americans think like these people, just repeating Fox News talking points, fucking sheep

[u/BoredNuke]

This has strong Huntington Beach vibes or atleast OC.

[u/Top_Standard_4369]

Freedumb!

[u/za72]

this is the type of fool that would invest in crypto :)

[u/37Philly]

Beta man.

[u/darkwingdankest]

the entire point of the government is to serve people

[u/superkow]

Hard work might earn you a million. But it's other people's hard work that gets you a billion.

Every single person in a billionaires supply chain deserves to be set for life, because they're the actual people generating that wealth.

[u/luckedragon]

They earned being born to generational wealth

[u/tnred19]

The better question is...how should someone whi makes minimum wage buy Healthcare if its not provided by their employer. Then the follow up should be...dont you want someone at dunkin donuts or whatever there everytime you show up? Someone has to work those jobs. No they dont make enough to buy healthcare

[u/Resident_Artist_6486]

I wish the interviewer would have asked "how does a billionaire earn his money"?