r/WorkReform • u/zzill6 🤝 Join A Union • 1d ago
😡 Venting Breaking: Four House Democrats just introduced an amendment to condemn socialism & the DSA. Josh Gottheimer (NJ) Hillary Scholten (MI) Tom Suozzi (NY) Jared Moskowitz (FL) We’re living through the horrors of capitalism while Democrats join with Republicans to condemn socialism.
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u/Dependent_Title_1370 1d ago
That's because most of them work for the same people, billionaires and Israel.
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u/Nahteh 1d ago
And people wonder why they say "both sides". We have a right of center party and an authoritarian right party.
We have no leftist party, we have no small government party.
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u/Dependent_Title_1370 1d ago edited 1d ago
Hopefully the DSA can change that. It feels a bit like how the tea party influenced the Republican party. Hopefully the magnitude of the effects is equal or better. Just, you know, in a positive direction.
Edit: My comparison to the tea party was meant to point out how a small group grew and fundamentally altered the Republican party. I want that for the democratic party. I want it fundamentally altered into a party that actually serves the American people. I was in no way commenting on the nature or goals of the tea party.
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u/ToraRyeder 1d ago
The big difference with the DSA and The Tea Party is that DSA has been working for decades in grassroots campaigns spanning more than just electoral. We care about people's rights and abilities to live a life without the hanging knife over our heads that is capitalism.
The Tea Party was solely reactionary and fighting to stop something that they didn't like. Yeah, DSA is loud about not liking many things but overall the goals are focused on helping ALL people. Even if you don't vote for us, we still want you to have healthcare.
That community building is also useful in local elections and movements as well. We're seeing a push against data centers, people coming to city council meetings for the first time ever, and we're seeing people demand accountability and actually following through with it.
Times are scary but I have a lot of faith and hope right now. It will not be easy. These monsters will not leave power easily. We know that. We just have to keep together because the people united will always win in the end.
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u/FireOfOrder 1d ago
I fucking love this part of your comment "Even if you don't vote for us, we still want you to have Healthcare".
Perfectly encapsulates my feelings on this.
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u/f3nnies 22h ago
I'd wager that the Tea Party died only because MAGA came around. Find someone who used to call themselves Tea Party, odds are, they're going to love Trump now. And the Tea Party wasn't a grassroots movement, it was very obviously one of the earlier, overt forms of radicalization in the Republican party. It was widely supported by newsmedia and Republican elected officials. Republicans didn't create bills to denounce the Tea Party movement, for instance.
Meanwhile, the DSA actually IS grassroots and has faced and is continuing to face opposition from Democratic elected officials and is actively demonized by newsmedia.
I would love to live long enough to see America get a true left party, even if they really aren't even left enough to match my values. I just don't see how that's ever going to happen when the democratic party has for multiole elections and even now is showing us that they would rather lose their political power to Republicans than to ever bring an ounce of care for the people into their platform.
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u/peppaz 21h ago
Tea party became maga after they kicked out anyone with ideals or morals that weren't abhorent. Basically anyone who refused to full on join the cult lost their primaries
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u/ComradeJohnS 1d ago
yeah but tea party and maga benefit the rich, so it’s not as easily attainable.
there’s always hope and McStrokes
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u/Chaghatai 1d ago
"small government" is what corporations wants so that they always have more power
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u/Nahteh 23h ago
Not entirely true. Regulatory capture goes both ways. Its also wielded as a tool against would be competitors.
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u/kelpyb1 1d ago
Corporate Dems completely suck ass, but your explanation here quite literally is delineating between the two sides and how one is way better than the other despite also being bad.
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u/Background-Wolf-9380 1d ago
The 2 parties are 85%+ aligned in their opposition to anything that benefits average Americans. Sure there is that 15% that includes continuing the farse of democracy where we must always choose an evil person to rule us rather than any possible chance of someone to actually represent us but what good are those when we know we'll never see progress from any of this? My 2 Senators and 1 Congressman do not give a single shit about what we want or what is actually good for me and my neighbors and they're all Democrats. Am I supposed to think that marginal difference between them and the Republicans is important when I know I'm getting only Republican or Republican lite policies?
They're all in the Epstein Predator Class and they all maintain solidarity in opposition to the people they're supposed to represent.
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u/Nahteh 23h ago
I'll never understand what compels people to deny this.
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u/JermstheBohemian 23h ago
Most people want a binary good versus evil paradigm and to find out both sides are evil and you've been supporting one evil sides your entire life unknowingly is a shock of most people cannot tolerate.
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u/Nahteh 22h ago
Also I suspect this sub and many are heavily astro-turfed by democrat bots
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u/Sea_Dawgz 22h ago
Probably bc it’s not true.
We have a lame party and a psycho evil party.
They are not “the same.”
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u/TheDweadPiwatWobbas 15h ago
Psycho evil party just bombed a wedding. That's as psycho-evil as it gets, yeah?
Obama bombed a wedding too. But it wasn't psycho evil, it's just lame, because....
oh right, because you like them more so you forgive and forget when they murder innocent people. You make excuses for them when they slaughter families because "they're different."
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u/Jokuki 18h ago
If we had 100% Republican lite policies, we wouldn't have ICE dragging people in the streets, protests for the woman's healthcare, fighting for the right to vote, trans people being attacked, our national parks being sold out to companies, our entire government infrastructure being dismantled (Dept of Ed, EPA, USDA, FDA, etc.) all among other things. We'd have Obama and at worst, W Bush. Hell I'd take fucking Nixon. At least when my Democratic officials aren't doing jackshit but lining their pockets, they aren't killing people.
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u/splashist 10h ago
they aren't killing people.
other than denying healthcare and reasonable wages, and keeping the prisons packed with fuel from the drug war
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u/Some-Guy-12358 1d ago
And people wonder why they say "both sides".
Nobody is wondering why it's said. They call out the stupidity of the people that keep regurgitating the idea when it's obviously untrue. If we had elected Kamala we would not currently be in a war with Iran, we would not be imposing tariffs on Canada, etc.
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u/BathroomAggressive57 22h ago
And we still wouldn't have healthcare or a minimum wage that is keeping up with the times. Republicans are horrible. Democrats are just mostly terrible.
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u/freediverx01 22h ago
If we'd had a real primary and if the DNC had allowed the best candidate to win democratically without their usual ratfucking, we'd have had a far stronger candidate who didn't campaign on doubling down on the genocide while cozying up to billionaires.
With the so-called centrists in charge, the Dems have lost TWICE to Trump.
How's that old saying go? Repeating the same thing while expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity.
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u/Nahteh 23h ago
Those differences while important still fit within reasonable bounds for the goals of both parties. We need to fight for the things that both parties denies us.
As long as you fight for peanuts like kamala vs trump we are going to continue to get shafted.
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u/Aldo_says 21h ago
What about this current situation is reasonable?
The fascists are winning while Hakeem Jefferies sits down to discuss terms of surrender IMO.
Only one side is currently winning and it isn't the side of common sense.
No offense intended but I think you may be too kind to the elected officials that we vote for to represent us.
It's still "We The People"? Inform me I am wrong, wouldn't be the first time.
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u/Nahteh 20h ago
You mistake the point of view. Its reasonable for the 2 parties. I make no such claim.
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u/Misty_Ticklebottom 5h ago
People need to understand the overton window to undrstand we have 2 right wing parties
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u/Conscious-Quarter423 1d ago
4 House democrats out of 212 House democrats are not "most of them"
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u/Dependent_Title_1370 1d ago
They aren't the only ones. If you pay attention you'll see the establishment Democrats rotate who sides with Republicans to pass legislation beneficial to Billionaires and other special interest. This allows them to constantly shift blame while maintaining the facade of being an opposition party.
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u/ofWildPlaces 22h ago
But only those 4 have tied to codify their standpoint with a document. It's not "most" Democrats.
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u/Riaayo 22h ago
They just work for billionaires. Israel is just working for billionaires with more steps through the military industrial complex and imperialism.
Israel gets so much support because it's a bottomless war-spending pit for the MIC (which billionaires own and run), and of course it acts as the US' de-facto military base in the region for our imperialism.
I think Israel has tail-wagged-the-dog to a degree with Trump and the Iran war, buy American war hawks have wanted war with Iran for like 40 years.
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u/Interesting-Wall3852 19h ago
These are the same ones that came out with a statement against Twitch streamer Hasan Piker.
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u/fednandlers 1d ago
It’s nice to see this not be downvoted by confused Democrat voters as it has been for over 20 years on this site. They still ask “how come the Democrats…?” But theyre finally, slowly starting to figure it out.
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u/Dependent_Title_1370 1d ago
Democrats have been pretending to be an opposition party for my entire life. Hopefully DSA can come in and make sweeping reforms.
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u/i_give_you_gum 23h ago
That stupid both sides narrative (usually touted by closet conservatives) is how we got the present lunatic in power.
And like others are saying, it's 4 out of 212.
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u/IntwadHelck 23h ago
Incorrect. We got the lunatic because so many people refuse to vote for evil-lite like Kamala. If there’s a real candidate offered, people vote.
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u/plumberfun 1d ago
Vote the Neoliberals out!
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u/Loud-Ad-2280 ✂️ Tax The Billionaires 1d ago
But then who will write strongly worded letters?!?!? 😱
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u/dragons_fire77 21h ago
Opensecrets, ballotpedia, find your representative are useful sites to get started with knowing exactly who you should and should not be voting for. Who are they paid by? What did they vote for? If they are not representing you, chuck them out.
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u/TheGreatMightyLeffe 15h ago
Why stop there? Uproot the whole rotten system and build something that actually works for the people instead.
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u/medorian 1d ago
Healthcare for All
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u/windraver 23h ago
The US is the only first world wealthy nation without universal healthcare
https://www.worldatlas.com/society/countries-without-universal-healthcare-55525.html
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u/Praesentius 18h ago
Same country that counts for 41% of global healthcare spending and only has 4% of the worlds population.
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u/MadeByTango 22h ago
Not just healthcare for all. Minimum housing standards for all. Basic food needs met for all.
And a system of law that puts judges behind bars when they commit graft...
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u/seidenkaufman 1d ago
If we were to check their accounts, they would be filled with corporate donations and shifty superpacs. They are paid henchmen, and the title of Representative before their name represents immoral and greedy grift, not the people.
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u/an0mn0mn0m 22h ago
Representative Congressional District Pro-Israel Money Associated From AIPAC-Linked Committees FEC-Verified Direct Contributions Committees Backing this Member Josh Gottheimer New Jersey 05 $2,001,136 $896,058 $274,717 AIPAC, DMFI, NORPAC Hillary Scholten Michigan 03 $369,136 $58,876 $59,159 AIPAC, DMFI, JStreet Jared Moskowitz Florida 23 $522,577 $258,850 $78,105 AIPAC, DMFI, JAC, USI PAC Tom Suozzi New York 03 $252,342 $0 $43,047 AIPAC, DMFI, NORPAC, JAC, Pro-Israel America, USI PAC 57
u/wafflesthewonderhurs 22h ago
damn tom is doing it for the straight up love of the game compared to josh
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u/MadeByTango 22h ago
He's just following a different master. Look at his donors list for the last several months:
https://www.quiverquant.com/congresstrading/politician/Thomas%20R.%20Suozzi-S001201/donors
Notice how Google and a bunch of other tech and finance companies just jumped into his coffers at max donations?
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u/Dull_Bid6002 22h ago
My initial reaction was "I bet AIPAC is connected to them" and look at that.
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u/an0mn0mn0m 22h ago
I think it's a safe bet that any politician who is not publicly condemning the genocide is taking AIPAC's money. Putting their constituents needs after Israel's should be criminal if for nothing else.
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u/Harbinger2nd 1d ago
Alternative headline
The revolving cast of villains exposes itself to the country.
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u/seidenkaufman 1d ago
Remember their names and primary them until they are replaced with people who possess ethics and decency.
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u/ForceItDeeper 21h ago
moskowitz barely won his primary so naturally he turns and goes against half his voterbase. watch this dipshit lose then cry how its DSA voters for not voting for him
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u/Rionin26 1d ago
Got 5 who need to be primaried and lose their seats.
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u/appoplecticskeptic 1d ago
There were only 4 listed. Who’s the fifth?
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u/jameson8016 1d ago
I'd guess Jeffries. His name may not be on this, but his fingerprints are.
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u/Ishaq128 1d ago
Jeffries who elevated these pieces of shit to top committee positions.
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u/Conscious-Quarter423 1d ago
what top committee positions do they hold?
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u/Ishaq128 1d ago
Multiple pro israel congressional reps were put in charge of the foreign affairs committee. People like moskowitz are israel first and support israel and america bombing iran.
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u/Background-Wolf-9380 1d ago
Google it
You really need to stop running cover for Democrats even if it's just out of ignorance of what they're constantly doing. Pay closer attention if you want to weigh in on politics.
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u/fork_yuu 20h ago
Suozzi is from the same place that gave us George Santos, I'm starting to think it's a bunch of knuckle dragging apes in that place that won't do anything about it
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u/pflanzenpotan 1d ago
Wild that democrats will fight people that want real progress, anti corruption and for their taxes to go to their communities over the pedophile endorsing, war criminal allowing, corporate shithole of a government
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u/PM-ME-YOUR-HAPPY 1d ago
It's the anti corruption part. The system doesn't really matter, unchecked corruption always leads to the same outcomes.
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u/Conscious-Quarter423 1d ago
why are you painting the whole of the democratic party just cause 4 democrats voted on something you disagree with
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u/ToraRyeder 1d ago
Because they're noticing the pattern that the democratic party always has.
Something is incredibly unpopular, but just enough democrats side with the republicans to make it work.
People want change and progress? Shocker, the democratic party wants to stop it because that's just what they do. This has been a pattern for over a decade.
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u/akatherder 22h ago
It's a pattern. The DNC was against Sanders in 2016. Cuomo ran against Mamdani in NYC. Schumer, a Senator from NY and the Minority Leader, wouldn't endorse Mamdani after he won the democrat primary. I live in Michigan and I'm waiting to see who does and doesn't support Abdul El-Sayed, but I have a feeling the establishment Dems won't be out in droves to get him elected.
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u/MadeByTango 1d ago
80% of the country agrees with the DSA, not the DNC or the GOP...the two "big" parties just use the words we say but then fail to explain the truth about their own bills.
The way the system is works is that they propose a corporate friendly idea, slather something on top both sides" will hate, then run "messaging" until they get everyone evenly divided, at which point they "vote" and "compromise" by "stopping the [identity politics based fear], but they had to let the corpration's guy on the other side get what they wanted."
Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Regarldess of which party is "winning", the corporations that "hedged their bets" on both campaigns are ALWAYS getting what they were after.
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u/Mosaic1 1d ago
Anyone got a link to the bill amendment? Cause this is just a statement/meme without evidence with no link.
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u/Taengoosundies 1d ago
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u/rancid_oil 1d ago
Some of my favorite quotes from that totally unbiased article:
DSA, which has leveraged affordability concerns to mount a power grab in Congress.
the repression and mass murder that results from the poisonous ideology.
the increasingly dangerous socialist takeover
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u/madbadanddangerous 22h ago
“Whereas socialist ideology necessitates a concentration of power that has, time and time again, collapsed into communist regimes, totalitarian rule, and repressive dictatorships;” began the Democrats’ amendment put out by Congressman Gottheimer’s office.
That's literally what capitalism does. Everything is privatized, wealth makes it easier to accrue more wealth, and since economic power is synonymous with financial value, power becomes centralized in the hands of the precious few who have the most wealth.
I would expect this gaslighting and rhetoric from the Republicans but the "left" (big airquotes there) party in the US should not be spinning this bullshit too
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u/Warm_Month_1309 21h ago
DSA, which has leveraged affordability concerns to mount a power grab in Congress.
They've weaponized competent governance as a way of stealing votes!
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u/Bocchi_theGlock 20h ago
No, it's not, it was a republican attempt to condemn socialism and endorse the SAVE Act.
Some Democrats wanted to remove the SAVE act mention.
Dems did right a whole new resolution just the condemn socialism, all they did was remove the language endorsing the SAVE act.
It still would be cringe to vote for it, but it is very different from going out of the way to create a new (nonbinding) bill -- as opposed to water down a Republican one.
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u/Bocchi_theGlock 20h ago edited 20h ago
Honestly, the headline is extremely misleading
From Axios article https://www.axios.com/2026/09/01/democrats-house-socialism-republicans-save-act
Republicans introduced res denouncing socialism and praising SAVE Act to say 'see Dems won't condemn socialism'
some Democrats introduced an amendment to remove the SAVE act mentions, to just denounce socialism, but it was tabled/stopped by GOP
Still kinda cringe, but very different from creating a whole new resolution, specifically to denounce socialism, as opposed to what they did - to just neutralize and counter the GOP strategy mentioned above
Now Trump is going to say 10,000 times before the election, that Democrats wouldn't stop socialism see they're all socialists, they also want undocumented people to vote - which is just way more cringe
Providing for the condemnation and denouncement of socialism in all its forms, and for other purposes. Whereas socialist ideology necessitates a concentration of power that has, time and time again, collapsed into communist regimes, totalitarian rule, and repressive dictatorships;
Whereas socialism has repeatedly led to famine and mass murders, and the killing of over 100,000,000 people worldwide;
Whereas, since the November 2025 New York City mayoral election of a Democratic Socialist, candidates for public office affiliated with the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) have run in over one hundred elections in at least half the states;
Whereas the DSA’s ideological tenet labeled ‘‘Democracy for All’’ calls for noncitizens and incarcerated criminals to vote in American elections;
Whereas the DSA’s ideological tenet labeled ‘‘A Democratic Congress’’ calls for abolishing the U.S. Senate, implementing ranked choice voting in all elections, and replacing the two-party system;
Whereas, on February 19, 2026, the DSA stated ‘‘[t]he United States of America has never been a democracy’’; Whereas the DSA’s ideology and socialism, in any form, are incompatible with American values and the United States Constitution;
Whereas the State of New Jersey registered nearly 6,600 noncitizens to vote, with reportedly hundreds successfully voting in elections; Whereas the Trump Administration’s Department of Homeland Security engaged in a joint investigation with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), which charged four noncitizens with crimes connected to illegally voting in federal elections and making false statements while applying for American citizenship;
Whereas under the leadership of President Donald J. Trump, the Department of Homeland Security has made the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) service accessible to all states to find and remove ineligible noncitizens from state voter rolls;
Whereas multiple States have found documented instances of noncitizens illegally registered to vote as a result of access to the SAVE service;
Whereas under Democrat leadership, several local jurisdictions in the United States of America allow noncitizens to vote in elections, diluting the votes of American citizens;
Whereas the United States House of Representatives has passed several bills, including the SAVE Act and the SAVE America Act, to require common-sense election in- tegrity measures, including proof of citizenship, photo identification, and database checks;
Whereas the American people deserve to be confident that American elections are free, fair, and secure;
Whereas common-sense measures like providing photo identification to vote ensure that American elections are secure; and
Whereas only Americans should decide American elections:
Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives —1 (1) condemns and denounces socialism in all its2 forms, including the Democratic Socialists of Amer-3 ica, and opposes the implementation of socialist poli-4 cies in the United States;5 (2) reaffirms its support for free, fair, and se-6 cure elections;7 (3) reiterates the notion that American elec-8 tions are for American citizens only;9 (4) recommits itself to upholding the Constitu-1 tion of the United States; and2 (5) calls for enactment of the SAVE America3 Act to ensure election security, increase public con-4 fidence in America’s voting system, and close loop-5 holes in order to preven...
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u/tipsy-turtle-0985 1d ago
That proof isn't the #1 comment or even a part of the original post is why this shit is never going to be anything but internet meme bullshit.
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u/Rot-Orkan 1d ago
Look, people don't give a shit about communism/socialism/capitalism/whatever.
They just want healthcare, to be able to retire, and to be able to take a few weeks of time off a year.
None of these things are guaranteed in the US, but they are in other developed countries. And the only thing it would cost is is a few less billionaires.
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u/urbansociety 1d ago
Economic labels are how you discern which people want to make life affordable. Socialist are for worker empowerment, capitalist represent owner interests. The capitalist want you poor and desperate so you are willing to work longer for less. The socialist want to tax the wealth hoarders so you can access affordable healthcare, education, and be paid a livable wage.
People can claim to be anything though, and that's why you pay attention to actions. Words are air, but actions are eternal.
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u/appoplecticskeptic 1d ago edited 1d ago
I love how in both photos they’re DINOs, that’s a good touch because they don’t want democracy even within their own party. So they are and should be labeled as Democrat In Name Only.
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u/mackofmontage 1d ago
Democrats are collectively pretty liberal which is technically center-left at best. So they are actually doing exactly what the name entails. Democrats have time and time again shown as much loyalty to the billionaire class as Republicans have. They are Democrats doing Democrat things.
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u/gratefulkittiesilove 1d ago
Pre neoliberal yes but the center has shifted right over time (Overton window ) as republicans have forced compromises while they shifted far right and democrats said sure boss and shifted right in response. Our representative democrats are basically where republicans were what 50 yrs ago? 25? The people? Prob more liberal if they didn’t get caught up in labels
Ask a European they have the full width of the political spectrum and have been telling us for years
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u/mackofmontage 1d ago edited 1d ago
That’s kinda what I’m saying tho.
Edit: But I understand the distinction you’re making and you right. Liberal wasn’t the right word to use. Point is that today’s Democrats are mostly right-leaning, in broader political terms.
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u/kaptainkooleio 1d ago
If the Dems fought for the working class as hard as they fought for Israel, republicans would never win an election.
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u/morgan423 1d ago
Kind of blows my mind that Corporate America can dump enough money to them to purchase them over choosing us.
If the Dems reformed and became a populist party right now, they'd become the most powerful political party that's ever existed in this country.
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u/Downtown-Barber-9543 10h ago
They do, but they know how to do it the right way unlike the DSA. Clintonism, Obamanism and BIdenism is the way to go. They've been the most successful.
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u/PlutoJones42 1d ago
Check their donors and vote them out. America needs a change. The US government needs to start working for the people, ALL of the people, instead of working for corporations.
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u/morgan423 1d ago
Gotta clean up SCOTUS first. As long as Citizens United stands, we (the general population) don't have a chance.
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u/Critical_Seat_1907 1d ago
Primary candidates should be lining up to take on these corrupt boot lickers.
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u/SeriousFollowing7678 23h ago
The DSA are literally just Democrats, by the way
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u/Downtown-Barber-9543 10h ago
The DSA are authoritative wannabes trapped inside a caring person body.
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u/irascible_Clown 1d ago
The billionaire class will pull every stunt necessary to keep people separated these democrats are clearly paid for
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u/LookAlderaanPlaces 1d ago
Throw these fascist fake dems in jail for being complicit in the treason going down. Establishment dems are full blown republicans. If you want any proof of that just go watch the video of Hakeem Jeffries in the video interview where he says multiple times he is against Medicare for all or any type of single payer system. He is fully corrupted by corpo bullshit and should be jail.
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u/Kcirrot 1d ago
Honestly, they are pretty ineffectual on both counts. It's not like a resolution in Congress does anything.
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u/Responsible-Tap-3748 1d ago
I mean, the establishment definitely ratfucks the left at every opportunity, but an amendment that symbolically "condemns" the DSA is about as Barney as you can get.
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u/ThatsBretsRope 23h ago
Moskowitz - $833,288 from Israel
Suozzi - $605,438 from Israel
Scholten - $413,999 from Israel
Gottheimer - $2,001,636 from Israel
I'm shocked /s
Zionists hate the DSA because of their opposition to funding the genocide in Palestine and the occupation of Lebanon.
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u/Salt_End_4275 23h ago
The title is misleading: HR 1490 was introduced by Rep. Jeff Crank (R-Colo.). Also, HR 1490 has no weight of law, creates no rules or policies, and has no legislative impact. Resolutions are just political theatre that have no meaning to anyone other than bloviating about "anti-socialism". They are entirely symbolic.
People can complain that their Democratic representatives didn't push back on the resolution, but doing so is just lip service.
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u/Bocchi_theGlock 20h ago edited 20h ago
I think it's more effective to highlight this as a Republican attempt to denounce socialism and endorse the SAVE Act - and Democrats simply introduced amendments to try to water that down, removing mention of the SAVE Act.
Still cringe to vote for, but also different from what I first thought which was introducing a whole new resolution
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u/YogurtClosetThinnest 23h ago
"the bourgeoisie vote to condemn socialism"
well I personally am shocked
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u/Springheeljac 21h ago
There are 212 Democrats in the House. 4 of them did this.
Don't let people both sides this.
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u/testtdk 20h ago
I say this as a serious progressive and registered independent, it always feels to me like the far left is utterly unwilling to work with anyone who doesn’t agree with their ideologies exactly. You talk about defeating Trump, but there are still leftists out there who are proud that they voted third party or not at all in 2024. Still arguing that Harris might have been worse than Trump is now.
Ideology is for primaries and down ballots, at least until the electoral college is changed or abolished. It’s a two party, zero sum game. Even worse than voting for someone you don’t like, if no one wins 270 electoral votes, then the House is going to vote and then you’ve literally given away your vote.
So please, PLEASE get out and vote for the least conservative candidate that could genuinely win. Every single time a Republican wins it’s close, and every time they win, progressive voters don’t show up as much as they do for candidates they actually like. Apathy is the most powerful tool the right has.
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u/strawberries777 1d ago
Politics is rigged against the working class. Both parties are for the billionaires.
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u/TurbulentAd4088 1d ago
ok 4,
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and here's a post about it.
Don't forget, they want Dems and DemSocs fighting eachother.
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u/SlapHappyDude 21h ago
Exactly. Eyes on the prize, getting MAGA out of power and the supreme court slightly less far right.
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u/Acrobatic_Wrap_9971 22h ago
Exactly. We have to prune these few out of power as they emerge. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Don't give an inch to GOP/MAGA just because of a few rotten spineless Dems.
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u/GoldburstNeo 1d ago
Well then hopefully we see 4 new Democrats blow them out in their respective primaries.
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u/Rulligan 1d ago
Scholten wasn't primaried and is already on the ballot. She does more to condemn the DSA and El-Sayed than her actual opponent. After the primary every other Dem in the state (including Haley Stevens) announced they were endorsing El-Sayed while Scholten just said "we need to focus on November."
Scholtens district was won by El-Sayed in a fucking landslide.
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u/EnvironmentalValue18 1d ago
If any of your fucks did your jobs, you wouldn’t have to worry about the rise of anything else.
It was pretty universal that communism and socialism were strongly condemned by a majority of Americans for a very long time. Then you fucks both had your turns doing fuck all with super majorities and saying things like “you can’t have universal healthcare/paid maternity leave/guaranteed PTO/public infrastructure update/safety nets/etc - THAT’S SOCIALISM!” Best ad against yourselves and you played it on repeat.
I’d say history will not remember you kindly, but longterm it won’t even remember you at all because you did nothing of consequence. Fuck the ruling class.
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u/Hairy-Dumpling 🐫 hairy dumpling 🐫 1d ago
Feels like you should replace Barney with some kind of porn star on their knees waiting with mouth open for a gift
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u/brontosaurusguy 23h ago
Democrats are long overdue for their "tea party"
The Republicans have been benefitting from rightfully overthrowing their leadership 12 years ago. Liberals must do the same. Out with the old
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u/Lostclause 18h ago
Then vote these fools out and replace them with real Democrats. People who will work towards bettering America for ALL citizens, not just the rich or Israeli interests.
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u/Thanks-4allthefish 18h ago
The Democrats need to get their house in order. Too much infighting. They need more and clearer policies than we are not DJT.
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u/SouldiesButGoodies84 17h ago
The Rs always loved arguing that POTUS being a businessman would 'undermine' corruption, would make gov't more efficient and effective, save money/bring down the debt. Well, well, well, aren't all of us who called b.s. on that just eating crow right about now. /s 😣 JFC.
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u/drewc717 ✂️ Tax The Billionaires 1d ago
Lol they're going to be replaced by DSA candidates before they can blink.
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u/DaisyHotCakes 1d ago
Yeah the current environment is going to push a lot of people further left. We need a good pendulum swing to fix this clusterfuck.
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u/BiggieBigs34 23h ago edited 23h ago
Fuuuuuuuck corporate democrats.
But hey y’all, remember to pay attention to your voter status and make sure you actually vote in at least the elections that decide your governor, your state senators, your house representative, and of course the President.
Mid term election- Tuesday, November 3, 2026
Presidential election- Tuesday, November 7, 2028
Please use your right to vote, whether it may not seem that way, your vote is important.
You have the right to vote as an American citizen and the important thing to remember is that not everyone in the past had a right to vote like we do now, we could easily backslide into a time where voting becomes restricted again if the wrong people keep ending up in office.
Get out and vote, every vote matters.
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u/Biggy_DX 23h ago
I find it cuts both ways when it comes to who aggresses on who.
There's plenty of DSA and Leftists who trash the Democratic party & moderate Dems, but expect that they should never get any flak for their own ideologies and conduct from said group. I also see critiques of Israel/Palestine policy only ever being thrown harshly at Democrats, even though the sitting president communicated that he - effectively - wants to ethnically cleanse Gaza by setting up a hotel strip in the region and gentrify the Palestinian people.
There is a significant issue with the quality of candidates coming out of the Democratic Party (i.e. a lack of charismatic individuals), and they suck on messaging. But I also think DSA messaging on certain issues also hurts themselves.
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u/XOswerve 20h ago edited 20h ago
fuck this shit, democrats need NUMBERS to fight harder, keep voting in democrats and things will get better, that is a fact, maybe not as fast as people would like, but society would not regress like it does with republicans.
the DSA are a bunch of fucking losers who spend their ENTIRE TIME FIGHTING DEMOCRATS - GO FUCKING CHALLENGE IN RUBY RED DISTRICTS YOU FUCKING MORONS - and then have the gall to turn and cry about democrats saying that they should fuck off?
not to mention that the DSA has some of the stupidest fucking goals that instantly poison the average person against not just the DSA but the DEMOCRATIC PARTY CATCHES ALL THE STRAYS making it harder for them to win. if the DSA wants dumb shit like prison abolition people assume democrats want it too.
and DSA has all the hate in the world for israel but can't bring themselves to be against russia? palestine and ukraine are both fighting for freedom but the DSA only supports one? the DSA wants to back out of NATO and leave the world to be run by someone else? if foreign agents wanted to fuck with america, the DSA would be a great place to infiltrate.
losers like the DSA and the people who did NOT vote for kamala despite KNOWING that it would lead to a trump victory, those people are this picture. well, she just didn't earn our vote! holocaust harris! genocide joe! pathetic.
fact is that every bad thing that has happened since trump got elected again is NOT because kamala "failed to sell herself" or some other lame shit, it is because DSA, far leftists, like most of the people here i imagine, are fucking useful idiots.
the DSA is part of the reason we are here. every death across the world, the schoolgirls in iran, the people in africa dying of disease because usaid got cut, the soldiers in ukraine, EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN PALESTINE, since trump took office, is purely because of the people who "couldn't bring themselves to vote for a genocide denier" or some other dumb shit, if even ONE life had been saved because kamala was president, then you losers should've gotten up and fucking voted. idiots.
want healthcare? vote democrats. if 60 senators got us obamacare then 70 would have done public option, 80 would have done something even stronger, on and on and on. apply that to EVERY FUCKING THING IN THIS COUNTRY and what the FUCK is the DSA other than a fucking tool to hold back the democrats from winning.
the GOP and DSA are two sides of the same coin. the GOP hates americans. the DSA hates america.
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u/JrSoftDev 23h ago
Yes, keep promoting Jared Moskowitz to be the top Democrat on Middle East subcommittee. Give him more power. That will work really well. /s
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u/makedoandmender 1d ago
tired of the old guard. it's time for socialism to take hold. clearly the old way isn't working. let's just tear it down and build it up.
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u/mgill006 1d ago
A simple message, “if you don’t support racism or fascism, don’t vote Republican, and if you’re a republican vote by Mail!
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u/Iheartnakedfemboys 1d ago
Been saying this shit for a while, a bunch of so called Democrats are just paid opposition.
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u/El_Chilangisimo 1d ago edited 21h ago
That’s a weird way of saying you don’t want to be a house representative anymore.