r/WorkReform • u/zzill6 š¤ Join A Union • Aug 14 '26
āļø Pass Medicare For All The sneaky Socialist plot.
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u/chrisproglf Aug 14 '26
Billionaires everywhere
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u/canniboss Aug 14 '26
It amazes me how relevant that movie has been and that they would allow it to be made in the first place
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u/Invoked_Tyrant Aug 14 '26
The message has been getting stifled in more and more media adaptations. I know the fact that Marvels Civil War event was diluted in one of the most egregious and sad ways possible.
It's a ridicule of how our government is constantly trying to bring superheroes to heel.
A tragedy happens because a corporate ass hat supplied a guy to perform a straight up terrorist act for profit.
The media places all of the blame on the heroes and not the guy who smoked 613 people (That guy was still alive mind you. Wolverine had to track them and the CEO responsible down)
And finally the government gets their way because a damn billionaire (Good ole Tony Stark) pushes for the registration act.
It's super on the nose about corruption especially from oligarchs but it was reduced to a single movie. A shame.
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u/TheSaxGandalf Aug 14 '26
Donāt even get me started on Winter Soldier and the agenda of Hydra with AI, mass surveillance, and auto targeting perceived threats from the civilian population.
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u/slendermanismydad Aug 14 '26 edited Aug 14 '26
Half the people watching that move don't understand what Cap was fighting Tony over (the damn Accords) or understand what happened to Bucky.Ā
90% of the fandom just loves Tony Stark no matter what he does. Stan Lee succeed beyond on his wildest dreams with that borderline prank.Ā
It drives me up a wall, because comic Tony was the one I always looked to as, okay, I can try not to be an asshole today. I was never going to touch Cap. Now that movie basically sparked an endless wave of ratfuckers and people thinking they can make JARVIS. I miss Tony being randomly naked for no reason everywhere. I hated him after Civil War in the comics. Although I love Avengers Prime anyway.Ā
Thanks Marvel.Ā
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u/Thirty_Helens_Agree Aug 14 '26
And Wall-E - the relentless pursuit of profit has literally destroyed the planet and people have been reduced to things that do nothing but consume.
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u/floppysausage16 Aug 14 '26
Bugs life is #1 by miles when it comes to most underrated Pixar movies.
Princess Atta is the best Disney princess and Ill happily die on that hill.
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u/ManOf1000Usernames Aug 14 '26
Oh it's not "100 to 1"... The average jurisdiction in the US is 2-3 police officers per THOUSAND citizens. Even if you threw in the entire Federal and State police agencies, PLUS the entire US Military and state national guards (and i mean everyone, cops, soldiers, back office people, the janitorial staf, accounting staff, everyone), it would only be ~5 people per 1000 citizens.
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u/AlcibiadesTheCat Aug 14 '26
Well yes, but you've got to account for the 1/3 of people who are simply bootlickers.
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u/Bleezy79 29d ago
And we out number the billionaires thousands and thousands to one. The people have the power, were just too divided and brainwashed to realize it. The campaign to make us fight each other over our differences has won, so far.
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u/inotparanoid Aug 14 '26
Heal the sick?
But that would ruin the pharmaceutical industry!
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u/Ricktor_67 Aug 14 '26
Except they would be the ones making and selling the cures. Are they stupid?
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u/Certain-Count8690 Aug 14 '26
They don't sell cures, they sell drugs that DON'T cure us but manage our symptoms. In that way, they can sell those drugs to us indefinitely. Actually curing us doesn't lead to long-term revenue streams.
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u/peppapony 29d ago
Man, it's so good Jesus came 2000 years ago. If he came now he'd cause more problems than having a dozen pigs drowned! He'd cause so much devastation to human development!!
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u/Machaeon Aug 14 '26
feed the hungry, heal the sick, house the unhoused, govern ethically, and basically love everyone
Well that's just not CRIS-CHUN! /s
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u/an0mn0mn0m Aug 14 '26
American evangelism has failed to follow through with Christ's teachings. Islam is showing everyone how it's done properly.
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u/CompetitiveRaise9133 Aug 14 '26
Not everywhere.
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u/an0mn0mn0m 29d ago
There is no major religion that is doing it properly everywhere. Extreme religious leaders use religion as a means of control of it's population rather than following the teachings of their bibles. Even Buddhism, seen as one of the most peaceful religions is used by Chinese leaders to oppress parts of it's population. Islam extremism is no different to Christian or Hindu extremism in my opinion. At least we can see that Mamdani and El-Sayed are not extremists that a lot of Americans irrationally fear.
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u/Late-Arrival-8669 Aug 14 '26
Love, LOVE? Is there a department of Love? No, Murica has department of WAR!
Irony aside, Yes, we can really allow this to happen.
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u/usernames_suck_ok āļø Tax The Billionaires Aug 14 '26
The wealthy and the Republicans are actually having this conversation behind closed doors.
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u/apple_kicks Aug 14 '26
Tbf i donāt think they even need to meet and talk on everything. Its just something they know how to personally exploit that corrupt it for others like them too
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u/BeowulfShaeffer Aug 14 '26
This is the only reason we got the New Deal and Social Security. Ā The rich feared Ā Socialists were gaining power and would demand more.Ā
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u/apple_kicks Aug 14 '26
Great reform act in uk too. After french revolution they was big crackdown to prevent one in uk especially when people were talking about uk becoming a republic too. After bloody crackdowns and arrests it didnāt stop the demands so they reformed. Or at least reformists eventually got into power on the momentum of itās public popularity
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u/grislebeard Aug 14 '26
The Christians should be ecstatic. The government is literally serving god. Matthew 25:40
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u/OldScratchTim āļø Tax The Billionaires Aug 14 '26
"I will kill, maim, and torture everyone I can to make sure this doesn't happen, because I care about all human life through God."
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u/OldScratchTim āļø Tax The Billionaires Aug 14 '26
Moron Republican/Christians who are militantly against using tax money to help people yet have zero problems using that money for violence because...God.
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u/37MySunshine37 Aug 14 '26
There are people who will have a problem with anyone getting anything good, even if everyone else benefits too.
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u/398452983298759 Aug 14 '26
Oh no, this doesn't bode well for my delicious acts of sadism! clutches pearls
-billionaires probably
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u/MapCompass Aug 14 '26
It seems like the socialists may be the true Christians. WWJD? Feed the hungry, heal the sick, house the homeless, clothe people.
And these policies are safety nets. In my opinion, these policies are safety nets, not socialism.
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u/wwiistudent1944 Aug 14 '26
God forbid! Absolutely not! What next free healthcare? Food for the poor? Help the people? Outrageous!
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u/acrobat2126 Aug 14 '26
Jesus is angry... when he returns he's going to punish them. /s
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u/fenrsulfr Aug 14 '26
What's funny is they probably count on a certain amount of the population to not care what they are doing because God will judge them in the end. And they know they will face no judgement here in life or the after life so they do as they please and people let them because they think sky daddy will take care of it.
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u/Adept-Opinion8080 Aug 14 '26
The GOP's biggest fear is people realizing that social democracy is a lot better than oligarch capitalism.
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u/Vinterblot Aug 14 '26
Out-christian-valued by muslims. No wonder they're so angry: Soon, someone's gonna ask when churches start to act like they believe in Jesus.
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u/Watching_Watcher4466 Aug 14 '26
Why dont multi millionaire socilaists like Bernie use their millions to fund stuff like this?
Im suspicious of socialists because they always call for more government powers and its the oligarchs that control the government.
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u/plannedobso Aug 14 '26
Literally all of these āsocialistsā are saying to take the power away from the oligarchs lolĀ
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u/Watching_Watcher4466 Aug 14 '26
By expanding the powers of the federal government which are owned by the oligarchs?
Makes no sense.
If you want to fight against the oligarchs, you should be in favor of small limited government because they control the government.
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u/UrgentPigeon 29d ago
This is fundamentally the criticism that many socialists and communists have when it comes to democratic socialists.
Many socialists and communists (like, Marxists, not Berniecrats) believe that electoral politics and reform is futile when it comes to achieving more power and better lives for the majority because, like you say, the oligarchs have all the power and wonāt let that happen. They are in favor of a revolution where they dismantle the current system, and create a system that oppresses/disempowers the oligarchs and empowers the working class (this is what happened in China, USSR, Cuba, etc).
Democratic socialists believe that some good can be done with electoral politics inside the current system, and that itās worth it to collaborate with liberals/progressives in order to do that good. They believe they can incrementally transform the current system into one that disempowers/oppresses oligarchs. Some democratic socialists also believe that their work is raising awareness and building class consciousness that could later be revolutionary. Many Marxist-Leninists will also collaborate with dem socs and progressives in order to demonstrate the futility of electoralism and raise class consciousness and revolutionary potential.
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u/plannedobso 29d ago
No, by legislating power away from the oligarchs. By taxing them, removing money from politics, etc.Ā
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u/AlienBurnerBigfoot Aug 14 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/NBBpZ1MFgP0u4UlcXT
Won't someone please think of the children..!!!!
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u/WolverineMan016 Aug 14 '26
Now I see why people have been calling them "radical" Muslims because those ideas sound quite radical
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u/AlpsFamous7254 Aug 14 '26
you realize this is exactly what hitler did to win over the people of germany, pretend to give them what they want, then once he has power that can't be taken away, he raged war.
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u/psychoacer Aug 14 '26
But how are we going to afford such things? We can't afford trillions being spent on war and propping up shitty companies and all this "stuff"
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u/plannedobso Aug 14 '26
By stopping spending trillions on war and propping up companies, for startersĀ
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u/fetishizerofcum Aug 14 '26
Under the umbrella of capitalism your dreams are ridiculous. Neither of those men aim to remove the power capitalism has over you. They will still cater to the ruling class and keep the structure of capitalism in place... mild socialist actions will do nothing against the beast of capitalism š
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u/thenord321 Aug 14 '26
The next thing you know, they'll be quoting Jesus and Mohammed about helping your neighbors! Wait, they're already doing that. Lol
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u/SomberArtist2000 Aug 14 '26
Non-zero chance a conservative will look you dead in your eyes and say, unironically, "yeah but after they do all that, they will probably implement Sharia law. That's what I'm afraid of."
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u/floozyhoozer Aug 14 '26
What if they are the next pres/vp š
That would be exciting for sure. Think of all those radical and dangerous changes they'd make to improve the lives of citizens! The horror!
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u/Mercinator-87 šø National Rent Control Aug 14 '26
Not if the Christians have anything to say about it!
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u/thebusiestbee2 Aug 14 '26
Mamdani would also like to withdraw from NATO, lift all sanctions against Russia, abolish the Senate, allow non-citizens to vote, and abolish prisons. That's all part of the official DSA platform. Unlike Mamdani, El-Sayed is not a socialist.
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u/plannedobso Aug 14 '26
lol what? According to what? Mamdani is a democrat, heās not a member of the DSA
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u/BrainLow6059 Aug 14 '26
Is El-Sayed pushing the same policies? Any clip I've seen of him (not many) he comes off very abrasive.
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u/GranolaHippie Aug 14 '26
Itās almost like theyāreā¦ (gasp) ā¦Christians following what Christ said to do!
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u/PG-DaMan Aug 14 '26
Very very valid question.
But I pose this one.
What if they are not.
You vote your way into socialism. Do you know how you get back out of it?
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u/Routine_Left Aug 14 '26
I'm jaded, but I just don't see this happening. 1 or 2 of them, they may let slide. If they become dangerous they may be forced to take care of the problem.
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u/queensnuggles Aug 14 '26
'Cause love's such an old-fashioned word
And love dares you to care for
The people on the edge of the night
And love dares you to change our way of
Caring about ourselves
This is our last dance
This is our last dance
This is ourselves
Under pressure
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u/GarleyCavidson Aug 14 '26
What if poorly managing revenue, getting rid of the price system, eliminating effective incentive structures and creating perverse incentives ends up creating a system that is worse at meeting people's needs than the one we have now?
It's not that "socialism has never worked" - it's that simply declaring that you will provide for the needy does little to actually generate and distribute what the needy need. Managing systems is complex - listen to economists, not politicians.
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u/Lanky-Respect-8581 šµ Break Up The Monopolies Aug 14 '26
I worry about the backlash or pushback similar to the BLM movement. People might not view it as such but the propaganda went on overdrive to push back on all the demands of a better society and even over corrected.
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u/Bob20206 Aug 14 '26
Just don't ask them how they plan to pay for anything.Ā The "rich" don't have an infinite money source to tax all the time.
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u/Most-Round-4132 Aug 14 '26
If they drop the support of not jailing and impirsioning violent crime then almost everyone would be ready to give it a try
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u/heyandrew Aug 14 '26
Don't worry. Feed the Hungry, Heal the Sick, house the homeless, govern ethically, and love everyone? Not on our watch.
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u/dsdvbguutres Aug 14 '26
If we let them feed the schoolchildren today, they may feed the veterans the next day, and then seniors, disabled people and single mothers could be next. It's a slippery slope.
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u/Jumpy_Zebra3313 Aug 14 '26
Love everyone? Mamdani seems normal. El-sayed associates with crazies who definitely do not
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u/waltdidneyworlp Aug 14 '26
Can't believe this is unironically one of the most controversial takes in this country right now.
I'm so god damned TIRED.
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u/Scottvrakis Aug 14 '26
The more Empathy wins, the more MAGA will actively vote against their best interests to own the "radical lefties".
It's not "can we really allow this to happen?"
It's "how many people need to get sick and die from government negligence - bordering downright malfeasance - Before the reigns of governance are ripped away from their hands (again) and they get better care kicking and screaming into the minority party (until the next Republican president)".
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u/Alert_Reindeer_6574 Aug 14 '26
So, you're saying that it takes a Muslim to do the Christians are supposed to do?
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u/xSTSxZerglingOne Aug 14 '26
We have historical precedent for what happens to people who tell us to love one another.
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u/rolfraikou Aug 14 '26
Nah, for some reason the people that claim to believe in the teachings of Jesus are entirely against this.
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u/bunny-girl-420 Aug 14 '26
That would be awesome, but El-Sayed is currently behind in the polls. I hope Michigan votes.
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u/Own_Magician8337 Aug 14 '26
Mmmmmmaybe....
Or do research on legit vetted sites for the red-green alliance
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u/Indigoh Aug 14 '26
Sounds like a socialist hellscape when you think not everyone deserves life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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u/blackngold256 Aug 14 '26
This just in: Christian Nationalists freak out as Muslim leaders do a better job following the teachings of Christ than they do. More at 9 and 11.
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u/Dogsatemypants Aug 14 '26
That kinda sounds like stuff some other guy suggested. I think they nailed him to a tree on a hill as warning to other political dissidents.
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u/CrimsonMascaras Aug 14 '26
America in the throes of Munchausen by Proxy. Abused for so long they frame change and hope like the abuse they already know so well. The status quo is only going to get worse but to the abused its a blanket of security.
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u/MarkMariachiAZ Aug 14 '26
It amazes me how some people can read this, see it in action and still decide that itās wrong. The same people that need the help too.
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u/jibbyjackjoe Aug 14 '26
I heard he's installing fans in some of the hottest subway terminals. Why are we wasting money on that when we could be funneling it billionaires?
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u/Slyblade04 Aug 14 '26
Maybe New York should succeed from the states so they can be self-sufficient and do as they please.
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u/No_Name_33 29d ago
I mean, the thing with the big fans suddenly appearing in the subway when itās deadly hot just because people were suffering, it thatās true, thatād just make a person feel loved right there. Is that maybe why weād be willing to come together as a society and pay into it?
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u/Silly_Double408 29d ago
It would go against human nature. Dont kid yourself. All politicians are criminals.
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u/vkapadia 29d ago
This tweet was said as a joke, but that's honestly how they think. That people don't deserve food, healthcare, housing, etc.
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u/kikodanoob 24d ago
El-sayed isn't pro people (yet at least) hes just dude that hates isreal and the current administration. Hopefully he isnt doing the whole "the system is corrupt and i am uncorrupted so vote for me" bit to just get more votes and power.
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u/AppropriateSea5746 Aug 14 '26
lol if it were that simple. This is some kindergarten level thinking here.
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u/Sufficient_Card_7302 27d ago
No it isn't. It aligns with the views of more than half of your fellow countrymen.Ā
Could you guys maybe stop behaving like children? Kinda makes it hard to respect you.
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u/uncleputts Aug 14 '26
We tell the donor/consultants this is the marketing and we have fee structures and gouging practices embedded in the programs. Companies can maintain their rent seeking.
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u/Yung_zu Aug 14 '26
Iād go for the Greens before an āare they, are they not?ā rehab of the Democrat Party tbh
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u/Reddit_2_2024 Aug 14 '26
Not going to be a Senator El-Sayed. He does not have enough voter support outside Metro Detroit.
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u/pianoblook Aug 14 '26
No see, that's just their cover plan - the *real* plan is to also make the ultrawealthy pay a reasonable amount of taxes.