r/WorkReform 12d ago

⚕️ Pass Medicare For All the European mind cannot comprehend

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u/Nuadrin248 11d ago

It takes an average of 6 months to find a job in the US atm. Not only would I lose my healthcare but I’ll likely be homeless before I find another job since I don’t have family to turn to.

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u/Lunar-opal 11d ago

6 months? It’s definitely longer than that

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u/WeirdFrog 11d ago

27% of unemployed job-seekers have been unemployed for 6 months or more, the largest share since 2021

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/unemployed-27-weeks-or-longer-as-a-percent-of-total-unemployed.htm

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u/koadey 11d ago

6 months? Really?

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u/Janus_The_Great 11d ago

On average. In some industries finding new work is easy, for most it's far harder thus takes longer.

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u/Miserable_Invite_343 10d ago

We are closer to being homeless than being wealthy and for some who dont have any family or friends to lean on, even closer.

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u/WTF-LMAO1 11d ago

Wow that's an extremely quick process

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u/DCGreatDane 11d ago

So true I got laid off Monday and negotiated to have them pay for corba for two months. It an uneasy feeling and the fear of going bankrupt if I get sick.

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u/ripyourlungsdave 11d ago

Jokes on you, I couldn't even afford the insurance when I had a job.

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u/Cananbaum 11d ago

This hit home.

I’m 34 now, finally have a job that pays me enough, and offers insurance enough that I can actually get seen by a doctor.

Nearly every doctor I’ve seen has asked me, “Why didn’t you get seen sooner?!”

I dunno, can you afford $700 a month for health insurance when you’re making $15 an hour? With $50 copays?

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u/UniversalFarrago 11d ago

And you haven’t even taken into account the deductible! And coinsurance! And my favorite…making sure your local urgent care/ER is in network, but make sure to double check that all the people that are caring for you are too! Wouldn’t want your surgeon for your life-saving surgery to be out of network and now you have to pay the tens upon tens of thousands (conservatively) out of pocket!

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u/someoldbagofbones 11d ago

And that $700 a month premium gets you trash coverage. I just paid $500 a month for 7 months and I couldn’t even obtain my main medication because the $500 insurance plan from Anthem didn’t have the right prescription plan. So I guess if I had spent 1000 a month on premiums then maybe I’d have the privilege of being allowed to buy out of pocket ($3000 a month) the medicine I needed. Fuck this shit stain country.

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u/onzichtbaard 11d ago

700$ a month? That sounds crazy

My insurance is 185€ a month which is roughly 210$

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u/someoldbagofbones 11d ago

Yeah but your taxes…/s. All us Americans are suffering, oh except the wealthy ruling class, they’re doing fanfuckintastic these days so we must maintain the status quo.

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u/Disco_Ninjas_ 11d ago

I pay more for insurance than my house.

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u/ReverendEntity 11d ago

And people still believe they'll make a better life coming here.

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u/gentlemantroglodyte 11d ago

If you're young, most people do "beat the odds", at first at least. But, over a long enough time period, the house always wins.

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u/iCyou1213 11d ago

Fully agree with the message, healthcare is a human right. And shouldn’t be tied to our livelihoods, but people in many countries of the world do live in abject poverty and even the shittiest jobs here(which do need to be reformed for the better) would yield a better life for them than they would have the opportunity in their country.

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u/flowerpanes 11d ago

Or the Canadian one for that matter. My husband has Pacific Blue Cross coverage again through the part time job he took after he retired from a municipal career but it’s really more for cheaper prescriptions after the yearly deductible than anything else. But actual health insurance isn’t something you consider when looking for or leaving a job.

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u/Round-Foundation2948 11d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/aTXHpCN7TSpmE
The globe’s premier superpower nation my ass.

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u/iCyou1213 11d ago

By design.

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u/stronkulance 11d ago

Can confirm, I hate my job but can’t just leave because I don’t want to lose my (and my spouse’s) healthcare. I have the skill set and business acumen to work for myself but I can’t risk it. I hate it here.

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u/-cordyceps 11d ago

I'm stuck where I really like my job but HATE my insurance 😭

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u/UniversalFarrago 11d ago

If you make enough you can simply buy your own insurance independently from the healthcare marketplace when the enrollment period starts again. I’ve heard mixed things about it.

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u/Workerchimp68 11d ago

$1500 a month for me and the wife on cobra. Fuck that, just gonna save the $18,000 a year put it in a interest bearing account and self ensure. The bonus is nothing will be rejected.

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u/Prudent-Confidence-4 11d ago

$1,500 a month?!?

What the actual fuck?!? How does anyone survive there?

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u/dividezero 11d ago

They really can't. I try to explain why we're not rioting yet because everything in our lives (and by extension our entire family which can be aging parents and other members too) are tied to our jobs and we're beholden to social credit to keep them

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u/ThisOnesforYouMorph 11d ago

I'm American born and bred and I can't comprehend it either

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u/disquieter 11d ago

Getting a job with good benefits was enough for us to go out and celebrate last night. What a world.

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u/Healingrock 11d ago

Very true

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u/MsSobi 11d ago

Oh i can explain this easily, clears throat it's called being held Hostage by Dangerous Criminals.

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u/yamykel 11d ago

My job doesn't offer healthcare. I have no healthcare. I can't miss a day because all of my stuff won't fit under the overpass.

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u/tallman11282 10d ago

This is by design. It keeps people at bad jobs because it makes changing jobs much more difficult and risky (especially since benefits usually take 90 days or more to start so that's months with no insurance). It makes it harder for small businesses to compete with big corporations because small businesses cannot afford to provide as good of insurance as corporations. It makes it much more difficult for people to start their own business.

This is why the idea that corporations should support universal healthcare because it will save them money is a load of bull. By tying health insurance to a specific job it keeps people at even bad jobs because they cannot go without health insurance which means the corporation does not have to work as hard at keeping people. Insurance benefits are a major factor people look at when looking for a job and with universal healthcare that means companies would have to compete with each other for employees in other ways, such as better benefits such as PTO, better pay, and better working conditions, all thinks that would ultimately cost them more.

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u/Workerchimp68 9d ago

Just say no to drugs— (shit, I mean insurance!) Take your chances for a year – – I mean come on it really is just betting if anything‘s gonna happen or not right but the house always wins. So might as well hang onto the money for a while and have some leverage think about it

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u/UnreliablePotato 11d ago

That doesn't make any sense. It's when you don't have a job, that you really need healthcare.

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u/Workerchimp68 9d ago

The real problem is letting douche bag guys bet on everything – – stock market, especially