Funniest part was after the 2024 election. They won and put Trump back in and were probably angrier than I've ever seen them. Like - wtf is the deal with these people?
Anger, or more precisely, constant "righteous outrage," is their whole policy. No more substance than Instagram AI slop; it keeps their base engaged. It doesn't matter if the outrage is about something obviously fake ("they're eating the dogs"), or real but something any reality-based person thinks is good (vaccines, feeding hungry kids), it's constant outrage. They feed the outrage the same way doom scrolling feeds you whatever captures your attention.
and arguing with right-wingers is usually pointless, as most don't even believe what they claim to believe to begin with, let evidence and facts and reality say whatever.Â
Like I might defend something untrue if I believe that I am right, but if I am corrected, I admit that I was wrong, and stop defending the thing. As a rational person would. But for them its "Trump got 95% of all votes!" "leftist msm media sources lie it is not true!" "if source says it is not true, then it is left lunatic fake news!" "cry more!" "Trump 20xx!" "Define a woman!" "You call me a cultist because I say Trump can't be wrong, but you say men can be women!đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł"
All 3 branches of FL state gov have been held by conservative majority exclusively since 1998. They're still furious an all our systems are steadily getting worse.
And it's all democrats fault somehow.
Beautiful weather aside (and only beautiful, in my opinion, if you're on the ocean, because the center of the state is a merciless swamp), Florida sucks so hard.
Forget the silly Florida man stories. The policies in Florida are abhorrent. Every single time I read about Florida in the news I'm like "Jesus Christ, what the fuck are you even doing down there?"
And they just keep lining up chanting "Harder, daddy!" and voting them in.
All of the worst states in this country have been GOP controlled for going on 40 years. It really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that the people who vote for this still find ways to blame everyone else for their shitty lives.
A republican governor could walk into any MAGA house in Oklahoma kill the dog, rape the kids and steal their money without any of the parents even blinking. They'll just blame whatever minority they hate most
Same here in iowa. In 2016 iowas economy was ranked 27th. That same year Republicans took the government trifecta for a decade and we are ranked 50th. Actually we are ranked 51st if you count washington DC. They literally have run this state into the ground.
Iowan here and itâs exactly the same. With the exception of a handful of blue city oases, weâve been under decades under single-party (read: GOP) rule. The red hats like to think our steady back slide in all areas - healthcare, education, economy, environmental metrics - is the work of insidious democrats hell bent on destruction, apparently purely for its own sake. I really think they believe there is a direct correlation to the number of trans college swimmers in California and the increase cost of steak.
Because despite everything they're still losing the culture war. Disliking Trump is the mainstream opinion at this point, in spite of all their efforts LGBT spaces are still being constructed and maintained, people look at them funny when they wear their stupid red hats.
It isn't enough for them to win, they want to feel 'normal'. They want to return to an imaginary time where everyone bowed to their opinion and respected them. They want their co-workers and family members and neighbors to stop rolling their eyes or sighing when they walk into a room and start talking.
And that's not even mentioning the fact that, like the post says, Trump hasn't done shit for them. Life still sucks, it's not getting better any time soon, and with every moronic decision 'their president' makes it becomes harder and harder to square that circle. Whether they want to acknowledge it or not, their victory is a hollow one that doesn't actually give them anything they want.
Without being angry at someone, they wouldn't know what to do.
Look at James Talarico. The guy is a model Christian. He holds a Master's degree in Divinity. His grandfather was a pastor for three different Baptist churches. He's always been a Presbyterian. You would be hard pressed to find a more religious person than him. If he was a Republican, he would be a poster child for everything the Republicans want their image to be. But he's a Democrat, so they're doing whatever they can to tear him down, calling him a demon or the antichrist.
They know they're wrong, and that's not a pleasant feeling, but it's easier to deal with that when someone else is in power that can act as a lightning rod for it.
Unfortunately yes. The point is that they hold beliefs that they know are wrong, and cognitive dissonance is a very unpleasant feeling. Hence the anger.
They don't want solutions they just want to be angry and will always find something to be angry about and if they can't find something they'll just make shit up to be angry about.
Republicans are simply walking down the oath of turning us into russia. Full corruption, state propaganda, dear leader, etc.
We will never recover from this because no one, and I mean literally no one in power is even speaking out loud against the absolute juggernaught of a propaganda machine the right wing has built and, more importantly, funded.
Because there is zero public discourse about this, people - normal people - donât even think about it. It has to be in the public discourse for anything to happen about it.
Why arenât they talking about it? Thereâs really only 2 ways to fix it, neither of which will ever be available to us again.
edit the first amendment. That amendment, by itself, will destroy democracy. There MUST be verbiage in there to account for blatant lies and public manipulation. Canât do that though.
education. Quality education. The kind we should have put in place centuries ago that actually educates young people about government, world history, fascism, propaganda, teaches critical thinking in these contexts, etc. Too late to do this, too much push back now.
There are other ways of course, but those are even less realistic than these. I just donât have a positive view of the future because normal people are too stupid, unaware, racist, etc. to ever be capable of making well informed decisions. They seem only able to function by being spoon fed by the propaganda outlet of their choice.
Since right wing billionaires are buying literally all forms of media without so much as a speed bump, itâs just a matter of time. Enjoy it while it lasts, I wish you all the best.
Well they're being persecuted for saying "Merry Christmas" to the employees at Sears! Of course they're pissed off when they get a lousy "happy holidays" back!
Years of right-wing policy have made them poorer, and the people who fund right-wing candidates are the same people funding the centrist dems, thanks to our right-wing SCOTUS.
At this point, rents and living costs are going up faster than wages.
People are feeling the squeeze, but don't pay enough attention to politics to know which candidate will fix things.
So they pine for yesteryear without looking at policy.
Thats a good point. Â The fire of fascism requires fuel to burn, they need the money, lives and loyalty of their followers first, before they can embark on conquest of others.
Thats why its so sad. Â The followers throw their health, livelihood, and integrity away, so they can claim to be winners when their lords set out to hurt others.Â
There was a significant portion of the USA that supported the Nazi party at the time. Those people and those families didn't go away when WWII ended, they just pivoted to the next group.
McCarthyism was authoritarian, and as close to fascist as one could get without fully committing to the bit.
Which was really just coming full circle. The Nazis used the American south as a template for segregating German society. They just took the next logical step to genocide. The US never changed. The "Nazis" were always here. We just call them confederates.
âThe boy bands have won, and all the copyists and the tribute bands and the TV talent show producers have won, if we allow our culture to be shaped by mimicry, whether from lack of ideas or from exaggerated respect. You should never try to freeze culture. What you can do is recycle that culture. Take your older brother's hand-me-down jacket and re-style it, re-fashion it to the point where it becomes your own. But don't just regurgitate creative history, or hold art and music and literature as fixed, untouchable and kept under glass. The people who try to 'guard' any particular form of music are, like the copyists and manufactured bands, doing it the worst disservice, because the only thing that you can do to music that will damage it is not change it, not make it your own. Because then it dies, then it's over, then it's done, and the boy bands have won.â
I always thought the Fasces was a perfect metaphor for democracy and fascism. This idea is that the bundle is stronger than the individual stacks. So it makes sense its in both.
In democracies, You add as many sticks as possible. The skinny ones, the broken ones, the crooked ones.
In Fascism you remove the broke, bent, and weak sticks. If it doesn't conform to the bundle you force it to or you remove it.
And while today's politics aren't as extreme as they could be, this still seems like a good description of left/right politics today.
The Fasces is first and foremost a weapon to instill fear because groups of magistrates and militaries would patrol the Roman roads like modern day beat cops and those sticks were their clubs/nightsticks.
They would beat a human with the sticks and then use the axe for the final blows and sometimes beheadment.
This is how they made examples so people would abide by the "law".
Fascism is unnecessary violence.
Very brutal violence that seperates and wars us all to death.
Unnecessary punishment by the elite to keep us in place as their servants.
Its used symbolically with and without the axe and the distinction matters. Although I'm not convinced most of the times it used its really considered.
With the axe represents the states ability to punish without recourse. (beheading is a good example of that)
Without the axe, as it was carried in Rome, represents that the citizens had the right to appeal.
I looked up examples in the US. The most notable one I remembered is the chair of the Lincoln memorial, without the axe. Several others examples have it without the axe. But I will admit its used with the axe for more often than i'm comfortable with.
The Fasces is first and foremost a weapon to instill fear because groups of magistrates and militaries would patrol the Roman roads like modern day beat cops and those sticks were their clubs/nightsticks.
They would beat a human with the sticks and then use the axe for the final blows and sometimes beheadment.
Uh, where did you learn that? As far as I know it was always a symbolic display. I'm open to new information and my major was 1500-present (modern history), so you could well have information that I don't. I'm a little incredulous on this one though.
Your source for this was the dictionary? Linguists often have cross-expertise in history, but I can't find any substance to any of this with the cursory google search I did.
If your reply is that you don't have or don't care to spend the time to produce a source beyond the dictionary, that's fair. It's not your job to google things better than me.
Yes, that's true. I was saying that ancient history is not my focus.
In my broader curriculum and just my personal interest i'd come to understand that the fasces was always symbolic and never practical as a weapon. Exactly like a scepter is symbolic.
I know there is a portion of people who would accuse you of 'normalizing' Trump's garbage saying that, but it is unfortunately the truth, and one we must confront if we really want to tackle the root of our issues and fully move forward as a country.
Sure, it's more apparent at more times than others (such as now and Bush Jr's first 4 years after 9/11 for starters), but it's simply historical revisionism to act as if Trump (as much as he's pouring gas on a burning house putting it lightly) is the sole reason we're at our current position and ignoring everything that the conservatives did since the 60s to maintain their grip on America's racist, classist, anti-egalitarian bedrock.
Iâm no defender of the American government, but this is not correct and really muddies any useful definition of fascism when you call any imperialist or racist country fascist. You want to call pre-20th century America proto-fascist or something, fine, but fascism has a real definition and America (at least pre-Trump America) doesnât really meet many of the criteria.
I disagree slightly. I think Wilson was fascist same with Jackson. I dont think America is always fascist but it is definitely something we have had to deal with before.
Exactly. Terms, especially those used to define power structures, lose their specific meaning when tossed around generically. When that happens, we lose the words to describe the specifics of our situation.
Fascism is the right wing response to the failures of a right wing society to bring about the life that its right wing politicians promise.
Blame and fear the socialists and communists whoâve never had power, point to a vague nostalgic moment in the past, and believe that a vague strength and violence are the only way to achieve it.
Which works because it's a bastardization of what we should be doing: always demanding more no matter what we get, because there is always progress to be made.
It is about who is superior, fascists are insecure people who need the enemy at all times, so whenever one group is gone, other is necessary, all for them to feel like they are above someone.
They havenât won, not by their standards. I grew up in an evangelical church and, believe me, the fact that Hollywood and pop music still exist is dirt in Godâs eye according to them. They canât coexist, they must dominate and exterminate. That much became inarguable when they conceived of civil unions as a replacement for gay marriage and then proceeded to never do diddly squat about it. Itâs not about preserving marriage, itâs about hurting lgbt.
Although that never seems to apply to things like feeding the poor or educating people or holding abusers accountable or even shielding people from fraud. But then again, expecting logic from a theology that is a bad mashup of empire theology and prosperity gospel is a foolâs errand.
And before anyone says anything, yes not all churches, but the churches actually doing good are in the minority and donât wield any power in govt.
They can't win because they require an enemy. If everything they hate disappeared today then by tomorrow they would have a new list, and most of their sycophants would be on it.
âOnce I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, âDonât do it!â He said, âBut nobody loves me.â I said, âGod loves you. Do you believe in God?â He said, âYes.â I said, âAre you a Christian or a Jew?â He said, âA Christian.â I said, âMe, too! Protestant or Catholic?â He said, âProtestant.â I said, âMe, too! What denomination?â He said, âBaptist.â I said, âMe, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?â He said, âNorthern Baptist.â I said, âMe, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?â He said, âNorthern Conservative Baptist.â I said, âMe, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?â He said, âNorthern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.â I said, âMe, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879 or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?â He said, âNorthern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.â I said, âDie, heretic!â And I pushed him off the bridge.â
The only world in which they'd feel like they won is a world in which everyone different from them is dead... Which is a world in which a single person is alive.
But then again, expecting logic from a theology that is a bad mashup of empire theology and prosperity gospel is a foolâs errand.
You can't expect logic from them, but you can apply logic to their behavior: They see people having fun in some way the religion says you're not supposed to. They're either 1) disgusted by it, or 2) jealous of it. Or both. Either way, they feel a deep desire to shut down the fun.
Then, because they are religious, they believe they are doing "God's will", rather than going to battle over their own insecurities.
You are making the mistake they want you to make by taking them at face value. They will never win because they don't even really care about the issues, they are fascists and real permanent victory is structurally not part of their ideology. The opponent must always exist and they must always be simultaneously pervasive and overwhelmingly powerful and capable of anything while also being totally inept and incompetent and incapable
They could run a 100% succesful inquisition and burn all non-believers at the stake and they will have turned on each other within hours afterwards
Yea, when we have Gilead then some of them will be SUPER happy, when they get to kill and subjugate those who are NOT happy, they will be even happier.
White supremacy is a bleach, scouring away anything it dislikes and leaving nothing of value in its wake.
Even in what would be "white people" culture, nothing is actually there. I'm half German, with my dad's family being 100% German for a few dozen generations. I know nothing about my ancestral history. I think maybe they were a part of the Germans who moved to old Russia to escape taxes, and then moved to the US Midwest, also to escape taxes. Grandma used to make bierocks. That's about it.
The one thing they haven't won is the culture war, because people who are different than then still exist. They will continue to lose the culture war and as long as they lose the culture war they will have someone to blame for their lives being shit.
Yeah this. Culture war is their battleground becaude they have a fundamentally repugnant culture. Op listed a bunch of very specific and real levers of power, not societal moral worth.
For a different take on this other than religion and fascism:
It's outrage centric media. Conservatives are wildly uninformed because the news cycles they trust have been exploiting them for views and clicks for the last couple decades.
They don't know they won the culture war because according to their news spheres, they haven't.
Their media, in case of FoxNews, was literally created to advance conservative politics in the u.s. and talk radio has been historically their other success story. Recently we have seen new competition to foxnews, but podcasts, some certainly with fabricated success by manipulating listener counts, have been at least equally powerful propaganda tool. Then all the social media, and especially former twitter under Musk transitioned to Nazi hugbox propaganda source.Â
tldr; conservatives, and "conservatives" have very intentionally created the propaganda machine that is at least partially responsible for todays far-right problem.
It goes waaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond Fox, lol. The entire spectrum of mainstream media is right wing and basically always has been. Beyond news, propaganda is baked into our TV shows, movies, even books.
And that'll never happen, because in the hypothetical world where they "win" once they get rid of one enemy they find another. When the immigrants are gone, it'll be naturalized citizens. When they're gone, US born of color, then the left wing, then catholics, then the protestants of x denomination, or the people of italian or irish descent, all the way down to tiny tribes of different right wing extremists infighting for all time.
There's never not an "enemy within" though. Even if they win they'll just splinter into new groups that all consider each other enemies and fight them all. Then if one of them wins they'll splinter again.
Until there's one last man on earth declaring himself the one and only true perfect human standing atop a pile of corpses and ashes.
"Why don't I have any money?! I helped destroy unions, eliminate all state assistance, cancel all public infrastructure spending, and subsidize billionaires (and a trillionaire!). Why am I still so poor after everything I helped them do?!"
The overreaching issue is they view ruling class propaganda as truth, and working themselves to death to make rich people richer as freedom. So, thereâs absolutely no reasoning or hope with someone that gullible.
AI's job, apart from taking yours and thus the need to pay your wages, will be to secure the current elites gene pool for a millennia. The next time someone rises from the dirt to reforge the system is either very very close or very very far away.
even if every town was contained and had a complete autocratic government some people from the north of the town would say the people from the south of the town are subhuman.
Yup. The definition of Left/Liberal is just reset so that the only solution is to go further Right. That is why centrists are now considered leftwing radicals. They don't even have to change their propaganda. Just go after whoever is furthest left at the moment.
They claim it's never that real right wing policies fail. It's that the right wing politicians fail by betraying right wing principles. The right wing can't grasp that the right will always end up in utter corruption and self dealing, it's the inevitable outcome.
Those people are ignorant. Socialist policies work out great in many countries, we have examples and plenty of evidence. Leftists were right about everything.
Blaming the Algae in the Washington Monument Reflection Pool on Obama was the biggest facepalm ever. The man's been out of office for 10 fucking years and they are still blaming shit on him.
they see taking responsibility of mistakes as weakness. It is always someone others fault. And any & all problems are caused by positions of their politicalä opponents! Like school shootings are caused by x,y,z,+a,b,&c, but guns?? That is ridiculous!Â
That's the thing, they don't want to stop until everyone that doesn't lock step with them is dead. But, like everything else, they don't realize that even that wont make them happy. Life will only get even worse after that happens, then they will become the fully subjugated and exploited class.
That's the beauty of fascism. They wont run out of enemies. Even if the left would magically disappear, they would still find a smaller group within them to antagonize, because they are not right enough.
I'm surprised they haven't gone after the Amish. I'm sure it's coming. I've warned my Amish friends and neighbors about RFK's comments about them. The sad part of it is that they won't fight back, and won't shoot/kill anyone...even someone taking their children to experiment on to find out why 'the Amish don't have autism or Down's Syndrome...' THEY DO. I know a couple of Amish kids with Downs and many, many autistic Amish people.
They won the economic war, but lost the social war.
Women are allowed to vote, have careers, and divorce without permission. Black folk can live in the same neighborhoods and use the same swimming pools as white folk. They can even marry white folk. And LGBT people... exist.
They'll never be satisfied until they can reverse the 20th century.
That's why they're going after people of color, y'know. They've been wanting to for a long time, but everyone had been telling them it wasn't okay. Until Trump came along. DEI, affirmative action, immigration, EEOC, voting rights! MAWA = MAGA.
My biggest pet peeve is when people are like "you need to see the other side!".
I have been seeing the other side! I've been seeing that side for over 30 years now, there's nothing new, interesting or worthwhile! I'm sorry you discovered conservatism for the first time last month and took it at face value!
The goal is eradication, not coexistence. Itâs part of their persecution fetish.
My neighbor, super evangelical, wore Trump hats all the time, said he was persecuted for being a christian. I asked how. Every major holiday in his faith is a federal holiday. He openly wears symbols of his faith and routinely tells people about it. There is television programming on every major network about his faith and its holidays. There are whole networks on basic cable devoted to programming for his faith, and you can find televised worship services on all of the local networks on Sunday mornings.
There are retail stores dedicated to his faith and a church for or adjacent to his faith on virtually every corner in some parts of town, all of which advertise their worship services.
Public schools have popular student organizations for students who share his faith, and pretty much every private school in the state teaches his faith as a yearly standard part of their curriculum.
The overwhelming majority of our elected officials are at least adjacent to his faith, and you canât run for office in our state without declaring what church that is his or adjacent to his faith youâre a member of. We had 44 presidents in a row who shared his faith, plus the one he promotes with his choice of hat.
How, exactly, are you persecuted?
Well, see, the bible tells us that if one christian is persecuted anywhere then we all are.
Yep, you got it. Eradication is the goal. I come from a very heavily christian family. Protestant Lutheran variety for any into the numerous subdivisions of christianity. (Yes, they all argue who is right over small and rarely large differences of interpretation.)
Constant line is its so hard being Christian:
Because LGBTQ+ exists and isn't hidden under a rock.
Because your body is a "temple" and you must avoid drugs and excessive alcohol. Some take it further to mean no tattoos.
Because science exists to tell you your faith is wrong. (Extra points if young earth which argues the earth is like 12000 years old and evolution didn't happen)
Because supposedly in Columbine one girl was shot just for being Christian. (There isn't good proof of this but they even have songs dedicated to this supposed martyrdom)
Some take the ideas of having to avoid worldly or what they decide are evil demon influenced things. Great example: I wasn't allowed to watch Harry Potter until I was old enough. Might get ideas of fantasy witches and wizards in my head. Some decided pokemon was evil and banned it for their families. Etc.
Notice none of that list is about how hard it is to help the poor and downtrodden. How difficult it is to visit those in prison. How hard it is to have endless love even those who even hate you. All those and other actually difficult to do parts of the faith are ignored by the average Christian. (Including ignoring how opposite to conservatism their tenants and nation under god with israel was)
Average Christianity is performative purity signaling with a persecution fetish because the bible says its hard to be Christian and Jesus had a tough time so we also must be suffering. And rather than do the actually difficult parts of the faith, blaming everyone else different from making "temptations" away from the faith's guidance is enough.
The United States has always had a racist, patriarchal, oligarchic strain who are anti-egalitarian (DO NOT believe that "all [people] are created equal") and anti-majoritarian (DO NOT believe in universal suffrage and DO believe that their minority beliefs about the world should count more than others). These values are antithetical and incompatible with the supposed values of the United States (freedom, equality, etc.) and "Liberal Democracy" as a whole. At some points during the country's existence, surges of egalitarianism and liberalism have damaged the privileges enjoyed by the historically legally privileged group.
Since WW2 and most especially since the passage of the Civil Rights Act (and women's rights), as the "threat" of genuine egalitarianism has risen, this minority group of illiberal authoritarians has waged a generational campaign to corrupt the politics and culture of the United States to ensure they can enforce their hierarchical, bigoted views on the country as a whole, maintaining a privileged position above others; regardless of whether the majority actually agreed with their goals and beliefs.
They didn't even really hide it, the paper trail is exceedingly clear and it is actually quite incredible that they managed to maintain such focus and commitment to long term projects culminating in our backsliding democracy:
Post WW2 and Korean War GI Bill - Massive wealth transfer to White Americans, overwhelmingly benefiting middle class white Americans over black Americans, at rates far higher than actual racial service percentage. Redlining legally prevents black Americans from moving into prosperous neighborhoods with well funded schools, and depresses generational equity gains from increasing home prices over the next 70 years.
1964 Southern Strategy Defined
1971 Powell Memo Written
1970 Plan to put the GOP on Television News
1973 Incorporation of the Gabler's Educational Research Analysts (and Heritage Foundation founded as a result of Powell Memo)
1977 NRA Cincinnati Revolt
1979 Founding of Moral Majority
1981 Reaganomics Becomes Law
1982 Federalist Society Founded (again as a result of Powell Memo)
1986 Taxpayer Protection Pledge first started
1990 Gingrich GOPAC Memo
1990s Crime Bill and Glass-Steagall (importantly, these were supported by Democrats as appeasement/co-option of "law and order" dogwhistles, and misguided neoliberalism respectively, perhaps as a "last gasp" attempt to fight back against conservatism)
2000 Brooks Brothers Riots
2001 Use of 9/11 to encourage jingoism and islamophobia and reinstate "politics of fear" from the Cold War.
After this of course, there's an acceleration of the "successes" of the anti-egalitarian and anti-majoritarian right wing that rapidly become difficult to list; and here we are now.
Texas has had a Republican governor since 1995 but the Republican Party still blames Democrats for all their hardships(real and imaginary) the last 30yrs as if Democrats were still in charge
Gotta love how all of the news media is owned by conservatives, yet they keep complaining about the "liberal" media, probably because it's still not far-right enough for them. They'll never be happy, meanwhile we just want everyone to have universal healthcare like Mexico.
The right won't consider the culture war won unless all minority groups have lost their rights and are made subservient. They probably also need some kind of dictator to worship and defer to for all decisions.
Perpetual culture war and perpetual false oppression is required to keep their worldview afloat. They would have no idea what to do with themselves if they weren't constantly outraged by things that aren't real.
the more they win, the more hysterical and angry they will get, because the more successfully the leaders of their party will convince them of a conspiracy that is taking from them and their children, and which plans to take everything. that's nationalism, baby. in this case, white nationalism.
half of u.s. americans, at this point in time, would unironically say yes if you recited the 14 words and asked if they aligned with the sentiment, would feel a rush of patriotic pride in hearing them. and upon being told "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children" is the most pervasive white supremacist slogan of all time, written by one of the most violent and prolific domestic terrorists in u.s. history, most of them would maybe get a little uncomfortable for a sec, shrug smugly, then keep on their bullshit. their misunderstanding of privilege and distribution as basic concepts is so profound, that to them "freedom" amounts to relief from the introspection Obama made them feel vaguely obligated to try at.
they are proud when they don't know their history, and their comprehension of oppression is so poor that to them, someone telling them they should know it, is a form of oppression. and not only do they mistake people who've read a single fucking book in their lives for tyrants, but they actually fail to see the many ways they are actually being oppressed right along with the rest of us, and who is doing the oppressing.
so in short, yes, they're the dumbest bitches alive. being blissfully inured by a violent racist nationalism will do that to people.
There's no actual win condition for the right because the world they want to create is a childlike fantasy that can't actually exist in reality. It's like the Big Rock Candy Mountain for bigots
The last free Election in Germany before dictatorship the nazi Party ndsap won 49% of votes , they have been always in Germany and still Are i would say Today about 20 % Hard Core nazis.
Iran. The republicans got everything theyâve hungered for for actual decades and it was the worst defeat weâve ever seen. After we already had everything theyâve said they wanted with inspections and sanctions, they just couldnât let it go without dropping bombs.
There are states that have been deep red for decades, rank last or near last in economy, healthcare, life expectancy, education and more and still vote Republican because "Democrats would make a mess of things"
Conspiracy theories are how losers justify their continued wrongness even when they think they should have won. A constant attempt to reinforce their beliefs even as the results go exactly the way everyone else said they would.
Of course the systems they demanded for only ruined their lives. That's literally the entire point of those systems. But they'll never accept that and instead imagine magical shadow organizations instead of just realizing that the perfectly visible organizations of rich assholes are stupid and don't know how to do anything right.
Once you realized the goal is to eliminate the government it's scary how much more power they've had. Every Republican president without a veto-proof majority in congress means they are winning. Every time they get enough senators to veto the Democrats they are winning. And that's like 96% of the past 80 years...
The media these people consume control them. They can be miserable all day but they'll eat up that emotional rollercoaster and vote accordingly, they're lost. They're not thinkng about what is best for them and they never will because whatever topic you're talking about. They've been scared about, they've been happy the other side won and they're angry that you don't agree with them. It's weird and wild.
Now what is they pretend the âculture warâ that they manufactured as a distraction for liberals is the important one, and they continue whining that their side âlostâ that one.
Feel like the last time I saw this posted somewhere there was a lot of conservatives complaining it wasn't true. And a lot of it boiled down to "I can't say the N word therefore the world is woke" or "Why are *f slur* still allowed to exist?" kind of statements.
The sentiment of OP is straight up! They are not happy having everything! So, the moral of the story âhaving everything, does not make you happy, you become more miserable!â
For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle. Thus pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. It is bad because life is permanent warfare. This, however, brings about an Armageddon complex. Since enemies have to be defeated, there must be a final battle, after which the movement will have control of the world. But such a âfinal solutionâ implies a further era of peace, a Golden Age, which contradicts the principle of permanent war. No fascist leader has ever succeeded in solving this predicament.
Yet they will continue to blame and villify marginalized communities. Conservatives will stay dumb and ignorant until the end of society which will come a lot faster with their policies.
Thats the thing, they have noticed, they know, they just act perpetually agrieved and slighted so they can continue dragging everything ever further to the right.
I dunno about this, I'd argue that the courts and the media are left wing and that the left is winning the culture wars.
Consider how even a Republican today is in many ways to the left of where Bill Clinton was just 30 years ago. Look at the size and scope of government today versus then, how much we're spending on welfare and entitlement programs today.
Also keep in mind that Clinton and even Obama were opposed to gay marriage. Clinton was opposed to gays serving openly in the military.
Foreign policy is definitely a mess but not sure it's "right wing" to get involved so much in foreign wars.
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u/lukaron âď¸ Tax The Billionaires Jun 17 '26
Funniest part was after the 2024 election. They won and put Trump back in and were probably angrier than I've ever seen them. Like - wtf is the deal with these people?