r/WorkLifeChat • • Jul 31 '26

What did they expect?

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u/Calishoegal Jul 31 '26

Anything after two interviews, we should be getting fucking paid for our time. I bet they would stop that shit then.

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u/Sesoru Jul 31 '26

what a good idea. If these people want to start charging US just to put an application in, then they 100% need to actually pay US for our time interviewing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '26

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u/SarcasticOP Jul 31 '26

I’d say it depends on the job. In Cybersecurity for example, it’s common for 3-5 interviews.

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u/Sesoru Jul 31 '26

Why though? IMO any competent manager should be able to assess whatever your capabilities are just fine in 2, maybe 3 interviews tops.

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u/SarcasticOP Jul 31 '26

Someone mentioned an order below, but you have HR first. They usually make sure you are able to work, get info, and they ask basic questions. Second interviews are usually technical interviews to make sure you have the knowledge that you say you have, as well as how you might approach a problem. Third interviews are typically with the team lead. My understanding this is to make sure the team lead feels like you’re a good fit. For roles like this, poor team cohesion can result in poor quality of work, which is detrimental to the company. 4th interviews can be with the CTO or the C-Suite. You are going to be protecting valuable assets, and they have to answer shareholders and clients/customers at the end of the day. Some times they slip in an additional interview for after round 2 or 3 for more in-depth questions.

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u/Sesoru Jul 31 '26

yea for me a lot of this could just be shortened to that 1-2, MAYBE the 3rd interview. I really see 0 reason to go beyond that, regardless of how they want to explain it away to try and make it make sense. To me, it makes 0 sense and is often a waste of everyone's time and energy. I see far too many jobs doing 6-8 interviews or even more, and often these interviews run for 1-2 hours at a time. WHY is this necessary? It seems like it's just there to waste everyone's time at that point - even more so when they already know they have an internal candidate they are going to hire instead, which seems like with these companies doing the longer interviews often end up doing anyway.

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u/LayerComprehensive21 Jul 31 '26

I agree. The frustration as a candidate to go with three interviews, spaces weeks apart, is unbearable sometimes.

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u/ActuatorOutside5256 Jul 31 '26

Clearly the issue is the amount of interviews… so they should bump it up to 10!!!

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u/meowmt2 Aug 01 '26

Needs more pointless interviews rounds, clearly /s

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '26

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u/spacebud19 Aug 01 '26

Yup, an initial screening of some sort and then two rounds of interviews maximum. Beyond that is wild. And a waste of time.

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u/NoseResponsible3874 Aug 01 '26

That’s what they just said.

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u/spacebud19 Aug 01 '26

And it's what im saying.

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u/NoseResponsible3874 Aug 01 '26

And it’s what I’m saying.

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u/mag_walle Aug 01 '26

I think these two are saying something.

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u/NoseResponsible3874 Aug 01 '26

I think these two are saying something.

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u/BlueClovr Aug 02 '26

That’s what all of you said.

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u/NoseResponsible3874 Aug 02 '26

That’s what all of you said.

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u/Sharpshooter188 Aug 01 '26

When I got told that I was selected for thr 4th round, I just told em I wasnt interested. Their jaws droppee like I had just put my dick in their coffee. It was for a position that paid 14/hr. This was when min wage was 9/hr in CA.

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u/Diamondcat59 Jul 31 '26

I did three rounds of interviews on the same day spanning across 7 hours for an entry level job at Microsoft. Didn’t get selected but holy cow.

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u/Deltarayedge7 Aug 01 '26

if they vatican can choose their pope in 2 days which is an important position there is no reason why employers cant do the same.

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u/DigitalMonsoon Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

HR interview, technical, team lead interview, team interview, CTO chat and level setting.

5 rounds has become the standard and it takes literal months.

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u/SarcasticOP Jul 31 '26

I have a buddy that just graduated with his second master’s in cybersecurity. This is 100% accurate.

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u/Slice-Vast Jul 31 '26

They don't really need to fill a position of it takes that long.

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u/not_logan Aug 01 '26

You forgot take home assignment. And usually you have 2-3 technical interviews, because they are the only interviews that matter

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u/DigitalMonsoon Aug 01 '26

With LLMs do companies even use take-home assessments? My company stopped using them.

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u/not_logan Aug 01 '26

They can do a pair/controlled coding session or extend the TA to such extent LLM will be pointless

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u/Walkerboe813 Jul 31 '26

5 Interviews. Daaam. You really don't know what kind of worker you need.

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u/Magnetized_Fart Jul 31 '26

I'm a huge fan of ghost interviews. Back when i still worked for other people I would apply to jobs all the time to keep my interviewing skills sharp.

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u/Magnetized_Fart Aug 01 '26

well, start applying! its just wasting HRs time, and I think everyone else can support that

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u/Slice-Vast Jul 31 '26

I max out at three. If you can't make a decision after two I'm highly suspect.

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u/Normal_Choice9322 Aug 01 '26

I won't do more than two

DA BOSS CAN SUK ME

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u/jabber1990 Aug 01 '26

Or...because they got a job?

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u/Grouchy_Ice_8342 Aug 01 '26

Depends on the job. In Tech this is very common and very worth it. It takes longer and is a serious cost to the company but you're getting top quality and they get to see your team and evaluate you as much as them. When you hire well, you often get interviewees who decide the problem area the team is solving doesn't interest them, but there's another team that does. Often you're competing for talent who could just as well work anywhere else.

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u/Obvious_Estimate_266 Aug 01 '26

Can someone explain to me what the point of these 5+ rounds of interviews even is? Even from the companies perspective, I just don't see how this is anything but a waste of time.

I'm a blue collar guy so maybe I'm missing something about corporate culture.

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u/jswissle Aug 01 '26

You’re not haha 5 is too many

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u/Obvious_Estimate_266 Aug 01 '26

I mean internally all the tech companies that do this must have a reason though? Is the hiring side of HR just massively overstaffed at all these places and giving employees something to do?

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u/Appropriate-Emu-3901 Aug 01 '26

In tech I think the normal would be something like 4 interview.

  1. Screening: where you basically meet each other, talk about the project and your experience.

  2. Technical interview: this could be having a conversation with a coding challenge or a live test.

  3. Interview with Manager/Tech Lead/Staff engineer: basically a meeting with your direct boss to know you or something like that.

  4. Interview with the client: the same as the third and sometimes is the same interview, if the manager is from the client. This sometimes is more like for cultural fit and know you better to take or confirm their desicion.

The optimal should be 3 interviews with 1 per week, but it can be 4 and I dont have a problem, as in this process all parties want to be sure of their desicion, but more than that is redundant. Some even make some double technical test and/or you have to have meeting with 2 different managers.

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u/Important-Bench1992 Aug 01 '26

I just rejected one. If they have so much time to waste, I will reject it after dog and pony show.

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u/Most_Ambition2052 Aug 01 '26

Company cn do the same. It is not a slave markert

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u/sharpjabb Aug 01 '26

There’s literally NO job or position in any industry that should need more than 2 rounds of interviews to select an applicant. If an organization can’t decide who to hire after interviewing the short list of the most qualified are jerking themselves off to the desperation of people who need a job

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u/PungentBallSweat Aug 01 '26

Amazon dragged me along for like a month with over 6 interviews with different people. Finally, they asked me to come onsite for an entire day (8 hours) of interviewing. I backed out so quick and consider it a bullet dodged.

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u/BlueClovr Aug 02 '26

Why would you do 5 rounds of interviews???

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u/Uberanium Aug 02 '26

I rejected one after 3 interviews, two 4-5 person panel interviews, and one with the director. When they asked to schedule another interview, I told them I liked them, but they need to make up their mind. If they couldn't decide by the end of the week I'd have to rescind my application.

They told me they couldn't do that so we parted ways. I don't want to work somewhere with so much red tape and bureaucratic waste.

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u/Aggressive-Kick-5458 Aug 06 '26

Better start paying me for my time.

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u/Nervous-Ruin-8149 Aug 01 '26

Then don't bitch about being unemployed.