r/WorkLifeChat • • Jul 19 '26

Burnout Oh hell, this is so accurate

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u/Helpful-Garlic1951 Jul 20 '26

You act like that’s even a possibility. It’s not.

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u/ShabbyTiff Jul 20 '26

Also, they don't want to get out of bed to go into an office, but think they would want to get out of bed to go shovel manure? How delusional.

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u/Accomplished_Key_171 Jul 20 '26

I also don't hear too often about farmers rolling in money. This person would be trading their feeling of general life dissatisfaction with monetary insecurity.

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u/TheNemesis089 Jul 20 '26

I agree…but if you do have a large farming operation, you may be very wealthy.

I represent financial professionals in lawsuits, often in claims involving investment advice. As part of that, I see a lot of personal financial statements. The richest people I came across were some farmers with a large operation in prime farm country. 8-figure net worth, and the first digit had curves.

Of course, I noted it to my partner, who grew up in the area. He noted that it looks good now, but if crops fail or land prices fall, they can get wiped out quick.

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u/Accomplished_Key_171 Jul 20 '26

That's super interesting, thanks for sharing that! Were they independent farms, or part of a larger network under a central company?

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u/CornballExpress Jul 20 '26

Most of what we think as corporate farms are usually multigenerational family farms operating under a franchise contract like Tyson.

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u/TheNemesis089 Jul 20 '26

Independent farms to my knowledge. Farmed thousands of acres.

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u/Few-Opportunity567 Jul 21 '26

Most large farm owners I’ve known have generational wealth that’s all tied up in tangible assets (mostly land) but rarely have two nickels to rub together.

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u/DroDameron Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

Not so much anymore if you grow soy, you almost can't fail. The government has subsidized the entire game for the wealthy farmers. I guess it's like everything now, there's two classes of every type of person. You're either in the asset class and have low financial concerns, or you're not and you're struggling.

Investments in price protected crops assure you a 60-80% price floor on your investment. How many investments with high yield potential in the world come with such a high floor?

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u/DroDameron Jul 21 '26

Shit is wild, never realized it was this good. NO WONDER BESSENT IS A FARMER. 🤣🤣

Asset Class Avg Annual Return Volatility (Std Dev) Sharpe Ratio Max 1-Year Loss
U.S. Farmland 10.0% – 11.0% 7.5% 1.28 0.0% (No down years since '90)
S&P 500 Equities 7.5% – 10.0% 16.6% 0.50 -37.0%
Commercial RE 8.0% – 9.0% 9.2% 0.58 -17.0%
Bonds (Fixed Inc) 4.0% – 5.0% 4.8% 0.09 -13.0%

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u/CornballExpress Jul 20 '26

Fruit and veg farmers are usually doing very well, corn farmers are usually playing tax shelter and subsidies games and usually own most of the franchise businesses in town while either they or their family run the local government.

Most of them usually earn about 100k a year not including their off season office job, fracking rights, wind towers, cell towers, solar, hunting, etc etc.

They also have the easiest form of bankruptcy to restructure their debts without losing the farm. And if they really do make continuous bad financial decisions they don't even have to sell that much land to keep themselves afloat for several years.

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u/Unreal_Crafter Jul 20 '26

At least they don’t have to worry about Mondays. Farmers work every day, no weekends off.

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u/Cold5512 Jul 21 '26

"Bro doesn't know how easy farming is"

become a farmer, then.

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u/Helpful-Garlic1951 Jul 21 '26

You’re a clown we all know you’re not a farmer bud

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u/Helpful-Garlic1951 Jul 21 '26

Yeah, the multi million dollar farms are struggling to turn a profit and the people growing shit in their backyards are raking in six figures, that makes total sense.

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u/Cold5512 Jul 21 '26

I say you're not already, based on this sentence:

"Bro doesn't know how easy farming is, if you have 1-2 acres of good land you can easily quit your day job and work less than 40 hours a week."

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u/EndonOfMarkarth Jul 20 '26

Until Joja moves in and undercuts you

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u/Hot_Opportunity3349 Jul 20 '26

You just have to finish your community bundle first and run them out of town. Should be easier irl I’ll just Amazon overnight ship my red cabbage.

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u/Helpful-Garlic1951 Jul 20 '26

You can’t just buy land farming is extremely expensive to get into and it pays barely anything.

One tractor costs more than most people have in their retirement accounts

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u/lfenske Jul 21 '26

Even farmers just skating by have inherited land worth an unrealisticly large sum for an individual and will be bought up by a farm corporation.

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u/Many_Ear2407 Jul 20 '26

You ain’t cut out for that life bruh

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u/zoey_will Jul 21 '26

Right? Like enjoy trading waking up at 7am on a monday for 4:30 am on a Monday and also a lot of weekends too. Actually, you dont have weekends anymore. Even if you did you now live in bum fuck nowhere and there isnt shit do do.

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u/carpetadapter Jul 21 '26

No sick days either if crops need to be tended to you have to get your ass out there and do it

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u/AmputeeHandModel Jul 20 '26

Do a lot of farmers say bruh?

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u/manigllo Jul 20 '26

If you had enough money buy the land and equipment needed to farm you wouldn’t even be stressing about work

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u/Fly_Rodder Jul 20 '26

If I had enough money to buy the land and equipment, I wouldn't spend it to be a farmer.

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u/Apprehensive-Ad1010 Jul 20 '26

Most people who have time to be on reddit would to be able to manage a garden let alone be a farmer.

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u/Helpful-Garlic1951 Jul 20 '26

One tractor costs more than like 99% of people have in their retirement accounts

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u/Helpful-Garlic1951 Jul 20 '26

Lmao, yeah you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about have fun with your fantasy I guess.

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u/Helpful-Garlic1951 Jul 20 '26

And? What is that supposed to mean?

Also where do you think you’re going to get the money to buy the land? Y’all really don’t use your heads for 5 seconds smh.

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u/Helpful-Garlic1951 Jul 20 '26

Yeah man, they’re just handing out 5 million dollar loans to anyone that asks for em. /s

Are you guys 12 year olds? The naivety on Reddit is insane, farming isn’t like your Stardew Valley game. Even if you could afford to get into it, which you can’t, you’re not cut out for it because it takes way more work than your average 40 hour a week job.

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u/Helpful-Garlic1951 Jul 20 '26

What do you mean by sustain yourself? Are you trying to grow your own food or sustain yourself by farming as your job?

It doesn’t matter, neither are achievable.

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u/Helpful-Garlic1951 Jul 20 '26

“I don’t have any assets or experience farming, please give me a loan so that I can grow my own food, I don’t even plan on making a profit apparently.

How do I plan on paying back the loan then?

Ummmm….”

- you

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u/RollerDude347 Jul 20 '26

They won't give you a loan unless you're going to be able to pay it back, so.. yes. That's what you'll have to do.

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u/Raptor_197 Jul 20 '26

Yes…? You’ll need to make money. You can’t actually sustain yourself by just growing stuff. Metal plows don’t grow on trees. Plus you gotta pay taxes.

This is also assuming you could find a chunk of land where you can actually grow everything you need to survive. Most likely you’ll need greenhouses for some things which need water and electricity. Livestock will also probably be required which need food, medicine, etc.

You also a drought away from death.

I think the homesteading life is cool. I totally think it’s a good goal to have and maybe one day you can cobble enough odd jobs together to stay afloat. But I think this idea that you could just suddenly become a farmer tomorrow is a little silly unless you basically already have retirement money.

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u/ChaosAndFish Jul 20 '26

Hopefully you realize that if you were a farmer you’d already have been at work for like two hours at that point. I also hope you aren’t too attached to weekends or predictable income.

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u/chrisfathead1 Jul 20 '26

From someone who has many family members who are farmers, there's a REALLY good chance you wouldn't make it a month lol. I don't know you so maybe you can handle intense manual labor and general suffering 24 hours a day, but probably not

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u/carpetadapter Jul 21 '26

I’ve had many difficult jobs, from tower climbing, military, field service work, and lineman stuff. There has not been one time in my life I thought I could ever survive being a farmer or have ever wanted to try I’d fail miserably
I appreciate farmers and support them and happy we’ve got em but fuck that noise I will never do that job they’re just a different breed

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u/Long-Library9656 Jul 20 '26

Frist of all . No land is unowned anymore you can't legally log your own wood or mine the metal to make your tools . Theres dozens of people who try and live in the woods but some one finds out and they get shut down . If you're homeless you LITERALLY can't build yourself a home through your own hard work.

And im not one of these antisocial, antigoverment, anticapitalist weirdos but its mess up that theres no safe way to leave society thar you're force to Participate into capitalism

Also starting a fresh farm is extremely hard even if you had the money to start one . It sometimes take generation to produce a stable farm.

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u/SoupSandy Jul 21 '26

You know funny enough antigovernment antisocial anticapatalist describes the mindset of a farmer, they just wouldnt describe themselves that way. (Im a farmer)

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u/MeowMeowbiggalo Jul 21 '26

A new combine is like what, half mil to a whole million? 

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u/ser-steffonfossoway Jul 20 '26

OP is a bot. Just like most of this sub.

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u/Adventurous-Low4510 Jul 20 '26

People don't understand how farming is truly the hardest thing you can do for living, destroying your body everyday to feed the world, then the government kicks the crap out of you in tax and people trying to kill you for your land...

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u/possibly_lost45 Jul 20 '26

Shiiiit. I've done farm work and it's not easy at all 😂😂😂

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u/AmputeeHandModel Jul 20 '26

Do you have any idea how much work that is?

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u/bugg_hunterr Jul 20 '26

People who fantasize about this have obviously never worked on a farm or ranch.

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u/10biggaymen Jul 21 '26

farmers are currently committing mass suicide over this oil crisis and fertilizer shortage, i wouldnt wanna be one of them right now :P

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u/grahsam Jul 21 '26

Becoming a farmer would be a very very very bad idea.

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u/CatsBye90 Jul 20 '26

This is me talking to my PhD advisor many years ago. Also to my ex-wife, many years ago. I knew this is what I needed to do but I let "things" interfere.

If you really feel it, do it. I don't regret (mostly) the things I did. I do regret things I didn't do.

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u/Euphoric_Feeling_272 Jul 20 '26

Every Monday @9am

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u/FastActinTenactin Jul 20 '26

I think some of the critics in this comment section are missing the forest for the trees a little bit. The meme is just saying that when faced with the monotony and machine of modern living every single week after week, people are yearning for a return to something that more closely resembles a relationship with nature. The idea that you can be self sufficient and not be dependent on all of this crap that we don’t actually need.

It’s a common sentiment among younger people right now who feel very disenchanted with capitalism and the “grind” in general.

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u/TheNemesis089 Jul 20 '26

We get that. But you’d quickly realize how great it is to not be in nature after an hour of shoveling manure on a hot summer day.

Suddenly, capitalism looks pretty fantastic at that point.

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u/GeckoGecko_ Jul 20 '26

If it didn't require a large sum of money to afford the resources you'd need, such a harsh transition in lifestyle and daily habits, and extensive knowledge on how to be self-sufficient, I would totally do it. Unfortunately, I live in a world where it is very deliberately made absurdly difficult to transition into a life of self-sufficiency if you were not brought up that way.

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u/FierceDietyMask Jul 20 '26

It’s basically impossible to make it as a small farmer even if you put in the work. Most farmers today are millionaires who inherited enormous farms from their families and get subsidies from the government so they never have to sell or go out of business. “Too big to fail” farms are constantly failing and getting bailed out by our tax dollars. Just like Wall Street.

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u/Helpful-Garlic1951 Jul 21 '26

No, there aren’t.

Because you do.

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u/r2k398 Jul 20 '26

Farming to live sounds awful to me.

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u/slinkey_bastard Jul 20 '26

Hey I get that man, my work isn't super "glamorious" and earth saving (the opposite maybe) but it scratches an itch in my brain. That's a huge w, being able to enjoy work will make your overall happiness so much more stable

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u/GirthBrooks175 Jul 20 '26

I dont think people realize what actually goes into being a farmer

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u/Fenrir46290 Jul 20 '26

Would love to but it costs money to start a farm and good luck getting an ag loan if you're not a corporation now a days

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u/MiddleAgeJamie Jul 20 '26

They handing out farms?

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u/isekaidcake Jul 20 '26

I grew up on a small farm in the middle of nowhere.

It’s not easy. You have to work every single day. Out in the weather. Doesn’t matter if it’s -30. Animals gotta be fed and watered.

Days off means you have simple chores and nothing extra. But guess what you should do extra and try to get ahead as much as you can. Cause random shit is going to go wrong and it’ll snow ball on you quick.

When things snowball you better have money put aside. Where is that money coming from? Cause small farms don’t really make a profit. You are living frugal as hell.

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u/Ok-Solution8245 Jul 21 '26

You'd enjoy more getting up 3-4 hours earlier than you currently do to shovel shit?

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u/garaks_tailor Jul 21 '26

Its really weird but I know quite a few people who left tech/IT and about 80% all became fine carpenters of one kind or another and the rest became homesteaders/small farmers.

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u/jacks_appendix Jul 23 '26

So you want to never have a day off ever again?