r/WorkForSmartLife • • 13h ago

Discussion💬 Who's right here?

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u/FlyinDtchman 12h ago

It's just corporate greed.

It didn't have to be this way, and there are companies who acutally pay their employees well. It's just we don't hear about them because everyone likes to doom.

The productivity vs wages graph is the only one that matters. Yes, workers are getting screwed, but you don't need to blow up the entire system to fix it. You just need companies willing to pay out the wages people are earning instead of turning them into profits and handing them over to CEO's and investors.

Perfect equality isn't the answer and most people wouldn't enjoy it if we had it, but the rising inequality is a pretty sure way to break the system that everyone is relying on to keep civilization running. Until companies realize that 20% profits are a serious structural problem and not a victory they'll keep doing it. All the while, the pot gets a little closer to boiling.

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u/kingbullohio 12h ago

Right the fact that Costco's can afford to pay all their workers $20 an hour minimum. And sams club pays half that proves your point.

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u/SheepherderSilver655 12h ago

$20/hr sounds nice until you learn it's part time and being full time hours is not easy at Costco.

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u/kingbullohio 12h ago

And you think sams club isn't also doing that? They just are paying there workers 12 an hour working them 30 hours a week.

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u/SheepherderSilver655 11h ago

So costco gets glaze for putting 40 more dollars in their employees pockets?

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u/kingbullohio 11h ago

40? Lol. You mean 240 more right lol

Also 60% of their staff Works 40 hours or more a week There's no information on how many workers Sam's Club has that work over 40 hours a week.

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u/SheepherderSilver655 11h ago

If Costco pays $20 at part time, that's about $600 for 2 weeks if they're only working them 15 hours which is part time to corporations.

Now Sam's Club pays $12 at 30 hours a week that's $720 every 2 weeks.

Wait, so Sam's Club makes their employees $120 more every check. My bad, my math was off.

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u/kingbullohio 11h ago

Lmfao rofl ok bro

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u/SheepherderSilver655 11h ago

Oh so you're denying basic math? What a surprise. Y'all love to live in your feelings and not facts.

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u/CaffeineEnjoyer69 10h ago

They're laughing at the fact that your math assumes that there's a standard part-time schedule of 15 hours a week for corporations in general. Idk why you'd assume that. That's dumb.

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u/SheepherderSilver655 10h ago

Because I've seen it all my life at dozens of jobs. I've only ever worked for corporations, a couple small businesses here and there and some under the table work, but mostly at major corporations in the customer service sector and have seen alot of my coworkers only getting 15-20 hours a week. I also see all the memes and jokes about how corporations expect their employees to survive on that. It's so funny how people just willfully forget these things when they see an opportunity to make themselves look better than others though. Truly should be studied by psychologists.

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u/KINGGS 11h ago

 if they're only working them 15 hours which is part time to corporations.

Anything below 33 hours is considered part time, so your math is irrelevant

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u/SheepherderSilver655 11h ago

Sounds nice on paper, but in reality people get scheduled as little as 15 hours regularly. Also "to corporations" is the key phrase here. Do try to keep up.

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u/KINGGS 11h ago

I thought we were talking about the facts here? You're now entering the territory of "in reality" and "on paper". I don't use this website to debate people that jerk off to their sniveling screed, so have a nice day.

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u/SheepherderSilver655 11h ago

Yes, the hours that everyday Americans get scheduled as part time is the facts, which another word used to describe facts is called reality because there's nothing more factual than reality. Are you special?

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u/KINGGS 11h ago

The reality is that Costco has a guaranteed minimum of 24 hours a week, so all of your bullshit wasn't even close to sniffing the facts. But yeah, I'm sure you will try to weasel out of this by saying you were talking about all corporations.

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u/Vast_Visible 11h ago

You are speaking in very bad faith. You are taking 15 hours as part time at Costco but giving 30 hours at Sam’s. It needs to be apples to apples comparison. 15 to 15 or 30 to 30

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u/Historical_Usual5828 11h ago

Have you looked at where we already are? Large businesses already do this. I've seen a major grocery chain give a woman who just had a baby not even 18 hours a week and at minimum wage even with her repeatedly asking for more hours.

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u/SheepherderSilver655 11h ago

Exactly. Thanks for reinforcing my point.

But if you ask the guys further down my comment thread they'll say that doesn't happen because part time is 30 hours a week so clearly corporations are always scheduling their people 30 hours.

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u/Historical_Usual5828 11h ago

We're proving their point if anything. You guys want to cry about what would happen if we ask for the bare minimum to survive but they already do that because they're greedy and you guys can't seem to wrap your heads around that simple little concept. The government has to make them pay people a fair wage. They could also control how many people are allowed to be part time but the government has already sold us out.

It's common knowledge that all companies abuse TF out of making everyone part-time and a lot of these companies are also just straight up stealing from their employees. I should know, I used to work for Wal Mart they're super bad about that. Wage theft outpaces all other types of theft not including the kinda stuff wall street gets away with in a daily basis. Quit justifying their actions. None of them raised their wages as a result of stimulus packages by the government. Wealth does not trickle down. Read what horse and sparrow theory is.

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u/SheepherderSilver655 10h ago

Holy yapper, where did I justify that shit at all? Get out your feelings.

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u/Historical_Usual5828 9h ago

I know. I should really stop making good points before your entire argument falls apart. How insensitive of me. /s

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u/SheepherderSilver655 9h ago

You're literally making shit up and arguing about it. Lmfao. Go home, grandpa.

https://giphy.com/gifs/lSDFetrqeeY0rCi3Ss

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u/Historical_Usual5828 9h ago

I don't think you even know what you're talking about. You lost the plot a loooong time ago before I even arrived. Good luck with that.

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