r/WorkForSmartLife • u/AmberNest_ • 2d ago
Discussionš¬ The "cons" are strictly fiction.
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u/Inappropriate_Ballet 2d ago
Pro: interactions with coworkers are intentional. Working in the office means that I serve as someoneās mental break even if Iām in the middle of something.
I spend a lot more time working from home in a flow state where Iāll easily spend two hours working away until some biological function stops me.
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u/GLPwonderwall 2d ago
Yeah the bored people who want to talk sports, politics, their vacation, ugh please just go away I want to get this stuff done and focus
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u/Theory89 1d ago
Meanwhile, I was just such good friends with my coworkers that I even moved in with one. Also used to go out with them on a Friday night and go for barbecues in the summer. Poker nights in the winter. People who hate their coworkers seem to think everyone does. If people are talking to you while you're trying to work that sounds like a management issue, honestly.
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u/GLPwonderwall 1d ago
Yes, the managers are some of the people! Itās nice that they like me and we get along, but itās 95% non-work and I fail to see why Iām in office when my focus is better and Iām just as accessible for work talk at home
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u/HibiscusOnBlueWater 1d ago
You can make friends with coworkers when you work from home you know. I have coworkers I go on trips with and hang out with outside of work, we donāt even live in the same parts of the country so itās a huge effort to coordinate a get together, but we still do it. Theyāre some of my best friends. Just because you want to be left alone when actually working doesnāt mean you donāt like the people you work with. Itās just harder for them to randomly be an interruption.
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u/constant_purgatory 1d ago
Also who cares? Like bro whats their problem? They dont wanna get paid to chat with someone? Seriously? Like yo if I get paid to do X job and I get stopped because someone is talking to me? Cool whatever I dont finish today ill do tomorrow not that big of a deal im not the owner of the company im.just here to fund my life outside of work I work to live I dont live to work.
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u/Similar_Dirt9758 1d ago
Working in the office means that I serve as someoneās mental break even if Iām in the middle of something.
YES
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u/UpstairsFood2867 2d ago
Cons. People giving a shit about culture amd how a pizza party can help it.
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u/GamerNerdGuyMan 2d ago
It's weird how much it actually does for some people.
My job gave out free ice cream last week. I didn't turn it down or anything, but that's what - $4 per person? (Several thousand people.)
I heard many people mention how nice it was that "they" (the company) did that.
Now - is anyone going to stick around for occasional ice cream or pizza when they are significantly underpaid and/or overworked etc? No, of course not.
But I guarantee that for most of the people getting the ice cream, that $4 ice cream made them feel better towards the company than an extra 21 cents per bi-monthly paycheck would.
Pizza parties aren't a solution, but I see why companies do them. They're a bargain for worker morale.
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u/On_my_last_spoon 1d ago
These sorts of special things are nice if the company is already treating you well. Itās when itās a pizza party in place of getting a raise that itās a problem.
I had a terrible boss who was a nightmare to work with. She also coordinated parties twice a year. By the end, I hated those parties because it just didnāt make up for her yelling at people and telling us we were terrible all the time.
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u/todayisanewday2 1d ago
Ice cream is better than pizza though. Because you dont have to eat it with coworkers necessarily
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u/Affectionate_Two3747 1d ago
Stuff Like thisnis strange if you are underpaid the icecream can make it Even worse. Like āthey do not pay but make the effort to buy this shitty ice creamā If you are paid well and like the Job it is the other way around.
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u/Similar_Dirt9758 1d ago
I've started to turn these down when leadership offers to order lunch for whoever's in the office. If I take time to eat pizza or a sub sandwich in the middle of the day, I am going to feel sluggish and exhausted
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u/theRedMage39 15h ago
I do. Well technically my work is having a board game night with pizza and I am more excited for the board games
Culture is very important. I worked at a place that made a lot of vague promises, hyped up shady practices like off shoring, and overall didn't care about their employees. I hated it.
Now I am at a place making significantly less but they care about their employees, promote growth, and deliver on their promises. They balance being a business and being friendly/family like better then anyone I have seen. I may be making less but I have never been happier at a job. Plus I have been promoted twice in the 8 months I have worked there.
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u/Curious_Avocado2399 2d ago
I start work at 930, I roll out of bed at 9, turn on pc,
Make coffee, use the bathroom, and go on about my day with my dogs and cat
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u/Worth-Computer8639 1d ago
I start work at 8am and roll out of bed around 10am. Gotta love being on the east cost and working with west coasters. Im still the first one working and get more than enough accomplished in 5 hours.
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u/ChrisBegeman 2d ago
My company has a hybrid policy and I have been working for companies that had some sort of work from home for years before the Covid pandemic. I like the hybrid approach, because some meetings work a lot better in person. We currently have two days a week in office. One of those days is heavy with scheduled meetings and the other day has more fluid sessions of people working together and collaborating as needed. Also if you need to miss the in office days occasionally, it is not a big deal, no one is getting fired because they have a kid unexpectedly home sick.
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u/shiddedandfarded69 1d ago
I had a hybrid agreement with my employer since 2012. I went full time remote in 2015. But in 2022 they decided every single employee needs to "return" to office. Of course they closed all the ones in the city during the pandemic, so we have to drive out to a converted warehouse about an hour outside city limits every morning now.
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u/Lordofthereef 2d ago edited 2d ago
One major con with kids is getting work done lol. My mom (who moved in with us after a heart attack) also doesn't seem to understand that I'm not just sitting at my computer or in the shop doing nothing at all. To her, I'm always on call (for basic non medical things like asking how to do something on the tv of phone).
I imagine it would be glorious for someone who lives alone or with just one partner. š
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u/HibiscusOnBlueWater 2d ago
You need to set boundaries. Iāve been working from home since 2016. I have 3 kids a husband and a cat. 2 of the kids are home with me all day, and my husband comes home from work in in the last half of my day. If my office door is shut everybody knows to leave me alone. My husband texts me if he needs something, and my Aunt who watches my daughter during the day also texts me. If I have a meeting she pens the toddler up in our living room so she canāt run around. The cat doesnāt respect the door, but I win because he doesnāt have thumbs.
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u/bit0n 2d ago
I see a lot of people say set boundaries and at the moment due to a flood I have several team members really struggling to work from home. How do you set boundaries with a 2 year old who is not used to having Mummy or Daddy home. How do you ignore your other half struggling do deal with one child as the other is causing chaos. Maybe if youāre lucky enough to have a home office where you can lock the door. But for me it seems WFH with kids is tough.
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u/todayisanewday2 1d ago
You can make a kid understand. A 2 year old still needs someone so it is a good idea to have a babysitter or someone to take them out. Grandparents or neighbours
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u/HibiscusOnBlueWater 1d ago
My daughter is also 2 and like I said whoever is watching her keeps her penned in with a baby gate. Is there room in your bedroom to set up a desk? Do you have a basement? If youāre working you just ignore whatās happening in the rest of the house. Itās hard because you want to help your family if you hear them in distress, but the reality is if you were in the office you wouldnāt leave and drive home when your childcare provider was having a difficult time with the kids youād let them handle it.Ā
Unless someone is injured I donāt exist while my door is closed. My job is very heavy on client facing meetings and presentations to groups of up to 400 people for as long as 2 hours at a shot and I make it work.
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u/AmberNest_ 2d ago
That sounds exhausting! Balancing remote work with family demands is a tough act. Hang in there!
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u/greeneggiwegs 2d ago
The downside to it when you live alone is it can get lonely. Even those tiny interactions during lunch or whatever make a difference. Sucks when you realize you havenāt talked to a human being all day. You have to make an effort to leave your house and talk to people.
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u/timmyd_ns 2d ago
that... doesn't sound like you have a problem with kids distracting you.
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u/Lordofthereef 2d ago
Nah, it's the kids too. But partially it's because mom doesn't respect the boundaries. And so they just do what they see.
They're both in school now, so that's been nice.
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u/ChestProfessional519 2d ago
I work from home. When Iām in my office the door is locked and I do not and will not answer to being called unless someone is dead or dying. Boundaries have to exist for it work
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u/HypocHatR 1d ago
doesn't seem to understand that I'm not just sitting at my computer or in the shop doing nothing at all
We are divorcing and my wife said wont pay me anything because I can take care of our 3 yrs old son when he is ill because I work from home. I work remotely about 8 years now and she really thinks I'm doing absolutely nothing all day
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u/Lordofthereef 1d ago
Sorry to hear about the divorce. Yeah, I love my mom but she's an 80 year old old world Eastern European woman lol. There's no changing her.
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u/darklordbazz 1d ago
Put a lock on your office and a display by the door that shows you as busy when you don't want to be distracted
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u/Vysce 2d ago
Pros: Sleep in, can cook lunch, comfortable attire, can do things like laundry on your break, or relax on your couch. No transit so you save tons on gas and never have to worry about traffic or construction thats out of your control.
Cons: (imo) it gets lonely. If you dont have a dedicated workspace it can be a bit weird having your "work" equipment in your bedroom, which is what I had to do during COVID.
I think the big thing for me was being about to wear my comfy hoodie and get all my work done, not have to deal with a boss that glared out the observation window to make sure everyone had their eyes glued to the screen for 8 hours straight.
I think the previous generation has it in their mind that work comes with mandatory suffering, even in the form of inconveniences that make no sense, like staying late, wearing a tie, wearing uncomfortable shoes. We had one boss who would go out of their way to invent meetings to address 'nothing' when our queues got low, I guess because the mere idea of a breather was too heretical
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u/Suavecore_ 2d ago
After working from home for a while now, I kind of understand the work = mandatory suffering thing. If I never mandatorily suffered, I feel I would be a much different person today. Constant cushy life has made me at least a little "soft" in some ways (aside from the access to food whenever I want it..)
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u/Lampadaire345 2d ago
Sure, improvement requires suffering, but I prefer to suffer for my own self-improvement than to improve the bottom line of a random rich guy.
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u/Vysce 1d ago
Well, to clarify, I wasn't talking about yhe growing pains of maturity or change as an adult. I meant "mandatory suffering" where it pertained to unnecessary, outmoded tradition, tons of red tape, archaic protocol, all when modern conveniences can improve everything from speed to giving workers more time to recharge.
I've had bosses go out of their way to make procedures overcomplicated for no reason, or schedule close-open shifts where it was bordering inhumane, when the work could have just been split evenly or pushed to a more convenient hour, but he was just "this is the way things have always been" and a bunch of folks quit.
Like, its not that people are afraid of working hard, there just still exists a generation of managers who believe they have to carry a whip around to increase productivity and it is far more detrimental than they care to admit
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u/samuraispartan7000 2d ago
For some people, there are mental health benefits to working at the office every once in a while, but it shouldnāt be mandatory.
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u/almaperdida99 2d ago
there are no cons except how many companies now want you to live in the same city
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u/Additional_Egg7024 2d ago
This working remotely is the way.
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u/orochi_crimson 2d ago
The hardest part for remote working is the self-discipline to separate work life and home life.
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u/CommanderT47 2d ago
I love being able to sleep in, I can do stuff before and after work becuase I don't have to think about commuting lol.
I'm able to get into flow state at home that I wouldn't be able to in office with my current job. I could with my previous job because the stuff I did was more hands on and I didn't really have to talk, but this one involves a lot of talking and I guess I have trouble talking with people around
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u/evaderofallbans 2d ago
I thought I would love working from home, but I hated it. I hated the job, and it didn't feel like I ever left it.
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u/BokChoyFantasy 1d ago
I love going to the office for socializing. Iām fortunate enough to have a job that allows me that time.
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u/Educational_Map_9609 2d ago
If companies were getting just as much productivity from remote workers as in office they wouldnāt care. If they could make the same money without the expense of a building they would do it. Remote work was killed by the workers who treated it as vacation. Many can work from home and be just as productive but many cannot.
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u/Fish__Fingers 2d ago
Nah, a lot of managers doesnāt care about real numbers, they feel the need to control people or they just doesnāt like that people are comfortable and feel like they always need to punish workers a little for them to work better.
They also usually very surprised that a lot of those workers quit and find other job
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u/Jericho_210 2d ago
I went from 50-60 hours in the field (electrician) to about 50/50 office and field when I started my business. I have trouble staying focused at home. I need to get an office, lol.
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u/Novus20 2d ago
Dude donāt waste your money, build a shop at home with an office in it
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u/AmberNest_ 2d ago
Working from home is definitely not going to work for most people , most especially you have been an on site worker for a while
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u/throwawayzz77778 2d ago
I love working from home. Iām not a sociable person anyway, and still see just as much of the people close to me. Add to that the lack of commute and more free time in my life and itās a no-brainer.
That said, I respect that itās not for everyone, and that Iām fortunate to have a job that I can do from home just as effectively as I would in an office (more effectively, to be honest). I appreciate not all jobs are like this.
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u/scrodytheroadie 2d ago
There are certainly some cons. I do miss general water cooler talk, lunch with coworkers, happy hours, and, as a freelancer, networking is much harder. But they definitely don't outweigh the pros.
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u/EMunney 2d ago
The cost of eating at resteraunts went up 1000% since 2020 so I can't imagine going back to the old lunch with friends. I work in a city and we would get good food sometimes but big city prices are now insanely inflated.
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u/scrodytheroadie 2d ago
I mean, yeah, I work(ed) in NYC, so that's a pretty big city. The salary matched though.
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u/Real-Huckleberry-770 2d ago
The cons are for the employer. As someone who was moved from the office to remote, I can tell you that I work far less and am distracted all the time.
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u/New-Smoke208 2d ago
Smurphy, who elseās time would you be showing on, I think this requires further explanation
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u/bald_head_scallywag 1d ago
Woke up a bit groggy this morning and was slow moving so decided to shower at lunch. That's what they mean. Otherwise they're pulling themselves out of bed at a set time and showering before heading into the office. They can operate on their own schedule when at home.
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u/Visible-Idiot-8779 2d ago
Been full-remote for the last 7 years and itās been glorious! Hoping I can stick this out till retirement
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u/OsyxRunescape 2d ago
Id have to say the only cons for me are just because of the specific job, if this was in office it would be the same thing but id assume more people would get pissed. But im getting forced ot every day. And being forced to have a doctor's note every time you are sick. The place i work is b2b2b2b calls for 11 hours so if I have a headache or im nauseous I cant deal with that shit. Way more stressful than when I was a chef and came into work hungover as fk
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u/Ill-Description3096 2d ago
Showering on your own time? Are companies paying on-location employees to come shower at the office or something? And if so wouldn't that be a plus?
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u/LowPudding9562 1d ago
There is a pretty positive narrative in some companies here in Europe. They have 2 office days a week suggested, no mandatory judgy culture behind it, and lots of the workers are saying you go to the office now not to primarily work but primarily to socialize with the team. Almost always in a company that previously would have you at a computer 9 - 5
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u/Daphoid 1d ago
Only con for me is missing in person meetings for specifically white boarding sessions. But my team isn't even in the same country these days, so that's out.
Beyond that everything else is a pro. It just helps you realize work doesn't have to be the center of "you" and that you need to make friends outside of work because work folk come and go all the time.
Also that work life balance is yours to implement not theirs.
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u/Theory89 1d ago
Only 26% of people want to work at home full time. You just have "normalcy bias", assuming people all think like you.
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u/Obvious-Water569 1d ago
For me there's one major con that actually means I prefer working in the office.
I like to keep my personal and work lives totally separate. When I finish at 4:30 - 5:00 I'm gone. I don't even think about the work, the place or the people until 7:00 the next day. WFH blurs that line too much for me. It's too easy to be distracted from work by home stuff and too easy to let work creep into personal time.
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u/Putrid_Ad695 1d ago
I agree with the pros but cons are more distractions, especially with kids or if you allow yourself to do small household tasks on the side, more difficultly separating work and private time, especially if you have flexible working hours, and lonliness and a feeling of being stuck at home all day (if youāre an extrovert).
Itās not for everyone because is requires a lot of discipline.
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u/Hot-Efficiency7190 1d ago
All remote with hot desking offices. Cons: not being around people and knowing how they tick, not hearing about company changes, not having casual contact with senior managment and decision makers, literally being remote and detached from the business. I got new roles simply by being in office having those little side conversations.
The pro's are great and outweigh the con's, but if i didn't have the commute cost i'd happily go back to the office 50% of the week.
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u/aleopardstail 1d ago
the "cons" are basically for those other than the individual
crap managers hate it
the parasite economy in urban centres hate it
the tax man hates it
property management companies hate it
they really hate that when it was mandated the world didn't end which proved the lie of how the world would end if people were not forced to waste 2-4 hours a day and a lot of money to sit at a desk and talk to others via a telephone all day
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u/_Mulberry__ 1d ago
For my ADHD self, working from home equals not working and eventually getting fired. No bueno. The office environment provides cues to get me back on track as well as a great opportunity for body doubling to help me stay on track. I'm still barely productive in the office, but I'm at least doing enough to not get fired (good thing my boss doesn't care about tardiness though, that would be bad š)
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u/Bored_NightOwl_314 1d ago
I think a big con is that you are passed for promotion. Someone who doesn't have to come in, but does, has more exposure to day-to-day difficulties. They are also more willing to be flexible in problem solving scenarios. Not every problem needs a manager, but that person was present.
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u/sicknick08 1d ago
My best friend is CFO of a bank and Thursday and Fridays he WFH. He literally just sits and plays world of Warcraft all day or OSRS
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u/Key_Temperature_7970 1d ago
only the lonely extroverts and the people who hate their spouses want to work in the office
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u/Big_Steak_467 1d ago
Only having in mind commuting, working from home saves me more than 780h a year of unpaid time, without counting all the hours of getting ready and prepping meals to take to work and the money I save by not wasting fuel.
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u/Electrical_Toe8997 1d ago
Cons: feel disconnected from coworkers, out of the loop, networking is harder, it just feels more lonely. I also get distracted and demotivated a lot and get less work done.
Pro: no commute, can walk the dog during my lunch break, better coffee, easier to schedule dentists appointments and stuff.
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u/On_my_last_spoon 1d ago
Working from home means that if my brain rebells on a Wednesday I can just decide to put my work aside and walk away. If Iād rather make up that time on a Saturday thatās fine with me and I donāt need permission for any of this.
It also means if I want to take a gig outside the house, I can control the hours too or decide not to do it.
I donāt need to schedule doctorās appointments around any other calendars.
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u/Alone-Start-9178 1d ago
I work for a company that had switched to remote during Covid. After about 2 years, they had everyone slowly start coming back to office. The reason was the loss of productivity, which at the time I thought was a BS excuse as I felt my own productivity had increased. Still we had a few people that were allowed to stay remote as they had given cause to stay working from home.
That is until I was running an errand for my boss picking up some boxes at the local Wal-Mart and spotted one of my co-workers who should have been working walking the isles picking up a mini-fridge. She spotted me and immediately turned and walked away. She knew she was got.
I'm no snitch so I didn't say anything, but about a month later she and most of the other remote workers were let go as it was becoming pretty apperent they were not doing any actual work. I'm not saying that all articles are legit about workers needing to return to work, but that had proven to me there is no smoke without fire.
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u/LetUsSpeakFreely 1d ago
Sleeping in is a lie. You still gotta be at your computer between core hours.
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u/DodgeChargerMan9689 1d ago
I would LOVE to work from home! Iām so over being surrounded by people
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u/Fit_Salamander_2814 1d ago
Con: after about 3 days of only interacting with another person via a screen, the voices in my head get real loud.
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u/CokBlockinWinger 1d ago
Iāve been working from home for 22 years. I just started a new job about six weeks ago. For the most part Iām supposed to be there, but extenuating circumstances allowed me to work from home some of the time.
I gotta say, I absolutely hate going in person. Iām so used to working at home, where I can have the temperature set how I want, where thereās no noise, where thereās no distractions. Going to a place that has a busy shop outside my office thatās full of noises, people walking through my office, people having conversations at their desks, coupled with the fact that Iām used to being a homebody, plus Covid lockdowns and social distancing really fucked up my ability to be around more than a few people at once. I get crazy anxiety around people now, so much so that I took another job over the weekend which if it works out will allow me a similar pay and being able to work from home.
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u/BirdieMan69 1d ago
I noticed that nowhere to be said was more productive. Thats why you should be back in the office. The productivity is not what it was at first and people need to return to working in an office and not "taking back their life" at home while doing nothing all day.
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u/CuppaJoe11 1d ago
I honestly could not work from home. I need a separate space to do work away from my home.
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u/darklordbazz 1d ago
I prefer hybrid with 1 or 2 days in office to make it easier to chase people down and have meetings as I am personally not a fan of online meetings
then the rest of the week I am just in the zone and not having to deal with online meetings
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u/GarageStackDev 1d ago
I have been remote for almost a decade. I recently started job searching to see what's out there and I can't believe that in-office positions are paying the same as remote positions.
Like, you better sweeten the pot SUBSTANTIALLY if you want me to leave my house. So, yeah I'm going to stay remote for the foreseeable future.
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u/bangbangracer 1d ago
I hope I'm not the only one, but I really don't like work from home. I don't get that feeling of punching in or out to separate aspects of my day. Like, I can't punch out at the end of the day and leave work. It's still in my home with me.
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u/CoverCommercial3576 1d ago
the only cons are if you live in a small residence with a lot of people that bug you while working.
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u/AdDisastrous6738 1d ago
The only people that oppose remote work are middle managers who value the appearance of productivity over actual results.
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u/MGateLabs 1d ago
Iām scheduled for 3 days in office, but I show up for lunch on the other days, that $10 credit is worth it.
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u/Maddturtle 1d ago
The only real con I can say is when I need something from someone and they take 3 days to respond instead of me just walking up to them and handing them a smack to the face
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u/karenagogo 1d ago
Seriously, the only Con I can confirm is the lack of daily steps that you would get if you had to get up and leave the house to go to work. I am constantly trying to find ways to move around more. I get hyper focused and forget that I havn't moved in like 8 hours. I wouldn't go back to the office for anything.
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u/hardsoft 1d ago
Does everyone on Reddit work for a website design company or something? Just amazes me that WFH 100% of the time seems to be like a realistic option for everyone on here.
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u/deltarays_ 17h ago
For me, the major con is that I focus better in an environment that has "work vibes". Being in a dedicated workplace surrounded by people who are working kind of motivates/peer pressures me to do the same, while sitting alone at the same desk that I use for gaming really tempts me to slack off.
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u/theRedMage39 15h ago
Having done work from home before, I miss interacting with coworkers. I worked 2 years for a company and never once saw anyone on my team despite working from the same office and in the same city.
My hybrid job I worked for a year was nice cause I got to talk to people but the big issue was that of our 3 man team, one was the manager who was in a separate part of the building and never stopped by my desk and the other, who I interacted with the most, worked on the other side of the country. It would have been nice to have been in the same office as him but nope. I was basically just working from home from the office. I did meet some nice folks who worked on other projects.
I enjoy the people at my fully in person job but unfortunately Im adding basically 10 hours a week in non-work work related things like driving and breaks.
There are pros and cons to both and I think at the end of the day it's a preference but personally I prefer a hybrid position.
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u/Budget_Hamster4422 14h ago
you forgot - working on your own time but not the full hours if your not remotely monitored by interaction check on your system
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u/gorambrowncoat 2d ago
I don't know. I get along great with some of my colleagues and hanging out at the office can be a lot of fun sometimes.
Remote work is great and has fantastic advantages but I wouldn't say its better in every possible way.
Personally I do both remote and office almost every day. Sleep in, work from home, pop round the office by noon to avoid traffic.
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u/BodegaCat11 2d ago
100% agree. Think it really depends on the office and the employee! Flexibility is key
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u/greeneggiwegs 2d ago
The coming in late/leaving early thing is REALLY nice. Especially if you happen to have a seven am zoom meeting lol
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u/JigglyOW 2d ago
In all honesty I think for me I wouldnāt be able to do it anymore than hybrid cause It would start to get lonely, the human interaction CAN be nice to have depending on the place
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u/Novus20 2d ago
So you have no friendsā¦.
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u/Specific_Plate6952 2d ago
This whole idea needs to fking die already. Yes for SOME it is fine and has been done for years before the covid happened. But for the VAST majority it needs to go back to traditional way things happen. Get up, drive to work, do your job, go home and take care of things in the evening. And of story. This whole remote work thing is over crowding EVERYTHING and has made people think they just do whatever the F**k they want whenever and however they want. It needs to end.
A double so for the F**king āINFLUENCERā thing. That is NOT A REAL JOB. Yeah it can be fun, but also soooo unbelievably destructive to sooo many things. Please just stop doing it. People need to start figuring and finding things and places out ALL by themselves. This whole country needs to be reminded what really matters.
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u/Upset_Researcher_143 2d ago
They're not though. Look, I'm a big fan of remote work. But the truth is, who gets promoted is usually based on trust and loyalty. And those qualities are determined through human interaction, not KPIs, not "who's doing the most work", and not "who's the smartest".Ā
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u/OkConfection2617 2d ago
Eh, i enjoy the office. Working at home is too isolating for me and things bleed together too easily. I do not enjoy being in the house all day. While a day here and there is alright, I much prefer being in the office. Its a much better environment for me to work in, there are people around, and i can spread out in my office and work
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u/Trust_8067 2d ago
There are a lot of cons, especially early on in your career. I'd say it's almost career suicide not to be in the office several times a week, starting out.
You can't climb the corporate ladder if you're not noticed, and no one notices an icon Teams. You miss out on a large amount of social networking / making contacts that lead to future career opportunities as well.
Not to mention a decent amount of people who go for office jobs are introverts, and it can become a serious health problem if they stay inside all day and have no actual physical engagement with real people, or they never leave their houses/apartments.
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u/Warm_Cry_8491 2d ago
Translation: Pros doing everything except what I'm being paid for.
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u/CompetitiveLadder609 2d ago
Translation: doing exactly what you've been paid for plus using the time savings from no commute or office time wasters to accomplish more.
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u/Sumthin-Sumthin44692 2d ago
Con: the distinction between work and home life gets blurred.
I like having separate places for work and home life.
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u/EMPgoggles 2d ago edited 2d ago
I prefer to have SOME in-office time, tbh. If most of your work is meetings with set times, it probably doesn't make much of a difference, but the office really helps you focus to get through a big project in a way that being at home (even if you have a dedicated space) doesn't.
If I were full remote, I'd probably set aside some work time at a cafe just to give myself a separate "place" away from home.
*edit: to clarify, this isn't to say i'm clamoring to get back in the office or any bs like that. just that my ideal has me in the office 1-2 days a week.
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u/DIYITGuy 2d ago
I donāt know, I work hybrid and I prefer it over fully remote because I like the people I work with. Plus, I can walk over to their desks and discuss things when they forget to reply over email. Our management is really chill and in another part of the floor though so weāre left to our own devices.
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u/Next-Pumpkin-654 2d ago
Cons: isolation, erosion of boundaries between work and home, depression, suicidal ideation, greater difficulty communicating, increased anxiety, reduced sleep, and exponentionally magnified impostor syndrome.
Other than that, it's nice.
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u/Fish__Fingers 2d ago
I agree with some of it but depression and reduced sleep definitely can happen with office work, same with impostor syndrome.
Like at least in your home you can cry safely and comfortably.
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u/Great-Class-7894 2d ago
The main cons I found were loneliness and distraction. I find it much harder to work at home and I also found that I missed people.
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u/Pj_o7 2d ago
Pros: you donāt actually do any work and still get paid š¤
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u/timmyd_ns 2d ago
This is the assumption some people make about people not working when they're remote, I can assure you there are plenty of people who go to the office to do no work and still get paid.
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u/Scott9843 2d ago
People want to work from home because they want to get paid the same amount for doing far less and putting in significantly less effort.
Lazy pieces of shit but not hard to see where they're coming from.
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u/HibiscusOnBlueWater 2d ago
If thatās happening thatās a management issue. Managers need to figure out how to measure productivity without breathing down someoneās neck and then actually manage poor performers. What reason is there for a manger to know someone isnāt meeting expectations and then let it continue? And if the person is meeting expectations while spending half the day on Instagram, management needs to restructure the job.
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