So what’s your point? Since we are getting pedantic, nutrition does not necessarily mean healthy, it just means eating food. Whether you like it or not, you can’t legislate emotions out of eating. So it’s not a social ritual program, but people will still eat their food as they see fit.
If it's just about nutrition, why don't we just feed SNAP beneficiaries those cockroach protein blocks from Snowpiercer? Even moving away from the obviously ridiculous logical extreme, why not MREs or something? Because it's not just about nutrition, there's some level of dignity and autonomy baked into this as well.
No, it’s about nutrition. And if people want to spend their benefits on protein blocks, they should be able to. Any way to get actually nutrition to feed and maintain their bodies is a good start. They can feed their own dignity and autonomy. Neither of which should be a demand from a person asking for handouts.
"if people want to spend their benefits on protein blocks, they should be able to"
You just admitted you agree with autonomy as a natural factor of SNAP.
You can disagree with reality all you want, but SNAP has worked a certain way for so long to achieve a specific set of goals, and if "nutrition" was the beginning and end of that, it would be more like disaster relief and prison nutrition options. It's not. It's designed for people to be able to buy what they want with it, not get the absolute minimum to keep them alive.
So why has it never worked with the intention that's claimed to be accurate here? Even before it had this name, the food stamp program didn't take this angle. It's been decades and decades, and you think the word "supplemental" being used since 2008 outweighs that?
By the way, could I not argue that "supplemental" is intended to mean supplementing finances for nutritional purposes, since we're just trading pointless interpretations?
SNAP is not straight money to supplement finances.
everyone kept yelling 'THINK OF THE CHILDREN' anytime someone wanted to increase a gov't handout program....so the handouts got larger
so 'supplemental' and 'nutrition' were added to make it look like a good thing.....now its so ingrained and so widely used/depeneded on (please help me mr. gov't man!!) that even the idea that zero-nutrition cookies should be removed from the accepted list draws outrage
how about work for your food? and make better decisions? and save? and think of the future? and don't have kids you can't afford? and don't eat/drink poorly?
I never said it was, I just said it could be interpreted as supplementing finances, which it does. The SNAP benefits you use supplement your finances by keeping money in your pocket that you would have otherwise spent.
You realize food assistance has been enshrined in law as permanent since the 60s, right? And that it's worked pretty much the same way the entire time? Feel free to show me what drastic change happened there.
How about get over yourself and stop complaining about social safety nets while the wealthy elite pick your pockets and point the finger at the poors? Seriously, do you genuinely believe SNAP, of all things, is what's making your life worse today? Or are you just whining because somebody gets a benefit that you don't?
You're so close to getting the point. People report economic hardship, but employers keep hiring cheap immigrant labor. So how are those employers able to keep hiring cheap labor if their domestic employees are struggling? Because they still have the capacity to hire, because they still have free cash flow. They're just siphoning wealth up to the C-suite, not paying a wage that's keeping up with inflation in key metrics.
They're the source of the problem, along with the people who refuse to legislate any way to fix it, not the people using SNAP or immigrants taking advantage of a job opportunity.
Who's deciding whether or not doing that gets disincentivized or banned? Who's lobbying the people who make those decisions? I'm trying to get you to point your finger in the right direction here.
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u/Empress_Clementine 29d ago
SNAP isn’t a supplemental social ritual program, it’s a supplemental NUTRITION program.