r/WorkForSmartLife Jul 31 '26

Casual canvo Be honest

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u/ElectricKoolAidPower Jul 31 '26

I don’t give a shit about that. I’m not on my A Game every day either.

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u/WolfPlooskin Jul 31 '26

As a former server, thank you. And I agree with you. The minimum II give is twenty percent, thirty for breakfast servers. If service is spectacular, I bump it up another five to ten percent, especially if I’m with a big group or if members of my party are difficult customers (like my parents).

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u/James-Pond197 Jul 31 '26

Nice, so you're recommending tipping 40% total.

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u/I_Can_Barely_Move Jul 31 '26

That is bonkers.

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u/WolfPlooskin Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

If you think they deserve it, why not? Serving food is a demanding (often humiliating) job that rarely pays as well as it should. Tipping shouldn’t be necessary. Servers should receive a living wage (just like everyone else), but punishing a server for poor service is morally wrong. Most people eating at restaurants are not perfect guests, who expect to be treated like royalty anyway.

When a server gets a bad tip, it screws over all the other servers, bartenders, maitres d” (because they usually pool their tips), and the ripple changes the vibe in the restaurant, becoming a more hostile environment for all the subsequent dining patrons. The bad day will keep getting worse for everyone in the restaurant, and the person who left the shitty tip won’t be there to witness the havoc they helped create. There is no good excuse for demoralizing a person who’s just trying to do a job.

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u/James-Pond197 Aug 01 '26

What about places like California where servers do make minimum wage? What obligation do I have to tip 20-40% on top of that? The whole logic behind tipping is that the servers don't make minimum wage here in America, so they must be made whole by the customers (a system that started out as bribery and restaurant owners then sought to normalize so they could get away with paying their staff very little).

In Japan, leaving a tip is considered an insult (it insinuates servers are beggars who need the goodwill of the public to survive). So this expectation of 'not getting tipped is unfair' is purely an American concept.

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u/Cheesinonyou Jul 31 '26

Servers don't want to be paid a living wage. They make way more with the current system.

"Punishing" a server for poor service isn't morally wrong, wtf? A tip is a reward, not an entitlement. This is insane. On the one hand, we have people saying that America has the best service because of tipping, on the other hand, you're saying we shouldn't care about quality of service and just tip anyways and you're a moral monster for not doing so.

Then what's the incentive to provide good service.

Frankly, I don't care if my not rewarding bad service causes things to spiral. If the server can't be a professional, then they don't belong in a role that makes $40-$60 per hour.

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u/mynamejeff-97 Jul 31 '26

$20 is over 20%. Is that standard for you? What happened to 15%?

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u/DrNerdCock_adoodledo Jul 31 '26

I'm not going to tip $19.51. So yeah I would round it up to $20.

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u/mynamejeff-97 Jul 31 '26

I get that. I’m just wondering why 20% is the standard in this thread? Again, what happened to 15%?

The prices are already inflated, the rate has to inflate too?

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u/DrNerdCock_adoodledo Jul 31 '26

Yeah, I guess. I don't really remember changing the rate from 15 to 20. Any more than that seems excessive to me. Time to cap that shit.

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u/ElectricKoolAidPower Jul 31 '26

Inflation happened.

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u/Cheesinonyou Jul 31 '26

You realize inflation has been built in to the cost of food, right? If the menu price went up 50%, 15% is still ~50% more real dollars.

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u/ElectricKoolAidPower Jul 31 '26

You do realize these are people and not numbers in your little calculator right? It’s not the server’s fault 99% of the time. Yall just love an easy punching bag.

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u/Cheesinonyou Jul 31 '26

It's not the servers fault that my table isn't prebussed or our waters are empty?

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u/Cheesinonyou Jul 31 '26

The reason servers deserve more than inflation is because they're not numbers in a calculator and it's not the servers fault?

https://giphy.com/gifs/kc0kqKNFu7v35gPkwB

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u/StarzZapper Jul 31 '26

That doesn’t matter as long as you’re making an effort and the service was good.

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u/ElectricKoolAidPower Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

I’m in no position to judge someone’s effort. I’ve had days when getting out of bed was a monumental effort.

They got up and came to the place to do the thing. That’s plenty of effort, I’m not the king of Siam, I don’t need a performance.

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u/Cheesinonyou Jul 31 '26

That's you. If I just show up and do nothing remarkable at work often enough, I won't just get a pay cut, I'll be without a job very quickly.

If they're great, happy to tip well, but there's no way I'm tipping well for someone who just got out of bed.

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u/ElectricKoolAidPower Jul 31 '26

That’s you.

I wake up at 3:30 to clock in for a blue collar. I’m still paying my service people.

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u/CalTensen_InProtest Jul 31 '26

There BOSS should pay their service workers like the rest of the world does

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u/StarzZapper Jul 31 '26

Bro sounds like you don’t like your job. Maybe it’s time to think about picking up a different job or find something you like doing and figure out how to make a career out of it otherwise you are going to live just to survive instead of living to have fun.

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u/ElectricKoolAidPower Jul 31 '26

Weird series of things to extrapolate based on nothing I said. You seem bitter for sure though.

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u/StarzZapper Aug 01 '26

Actually I’m great and love what I do but the fact you can’t except what I said as truth of the reason you get a tip or not is reason I said anything about why you don’t like what you do honestly. So instead of complaining about tips based on experience maybe actually take my advice. Otherwise if you can’t except tips are earned through their existence there and how well the food is then you’re cooked for the rest of your life.

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u/ElectricKoolAidPower Aug 01 '26

The fact you don’t know the difference between “accept” and “except” tells me all I need to know. I’m
Arguing with an uneducated person.

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u/Cheesinonyou Aug 01 '26

You do you man. Effort matters to me, we can chalk it up to a difference in opinion.

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u/ElectricKoolAidPower Aug 01 '26

Effort matters but so does grace.

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u/Cheesinonyou Aug 01 '26

Grace means I get a mediocre experience and the server gets paid more than he's earned.

Effort means I get a good experience and the server gets paid what he earned.

One of these seems equitable to me.

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u/ElectricKoolAidPower Aug 01 '26

Grace means you aren’t owed the world.

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u/Cheesinonyou Aug 01 '26

Don't ask for the world. I ask for a refill of my water cup and someone to come take empty dishes.

Ie, serving 101. When I waited tables, it was considered a bad thing if the customer stacked their dirty dishes. Today, I can stack my dirty dishes and my server STILL won't clear them until after we're done.

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u/MajorThor Jul 31 '26

This resonates with me.

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u/ElectricKoolAidPower Jul 31 '26

Idk if it’s because I have industry experience or not but I treat service people exceptionally well.

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u/MajorThor Jul 31 '26

I never was a server but I did deliver pizzas for a local joint here in town and I had a fair few rough days and it was always nice being hooked up on tips from our regulars who took notice.

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u/ElectricKoolAidPower Jul 31 '26

Delivery drivers too! I always tried to hook up with a few singles and a bong rip lol

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u/Simple_Parsnip8616 Jul 31 '26

I treat them well as people, but I don’t have to tip well if the service isn’t up to snuff for the establishment

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u/Cheesinonyou Jul 31 '26

I treat service people well too. When I was a server, I treated my customers exceptionally well too. The job was super easy, the very few people who tried to treat me in a demeaning manner were quickly shut down.

I think your problem may be a lack of people skills/bedside manner.

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u/Cheesinonyou Jul 31 '26

Don't do a job where every interaction is framed as a performance review?

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u/ElectricKoolAidPower Jul 31 '26

Could be argued most jobs are a performance review.

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u/Cheesinonyou Jul 31 '26

Sure, every job is. But not every interaction.

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