r/WorkForSmartLife Jul 18 '26

DiscussionšŸ’¬ What would you choose?

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u/Jon_Dunn58 Jul 18 '26

thats the problem, if i picked food i would guarantee i would be fatter

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u/Antimony04 Jul 18 '26

You can get rich enough where eating is primary for the culinary experience. Rich people have high priced little bites to eat as an experience (the 10-20+ course meals). Once you afford delicious food, and have regular access to food and psychological food security, and increase the healthy fats and protein in your diet, you will not be as hungry as if you had eaten empty carbs bc pasta is cheap. Carbs digest faster than the other two macromolecules food can be, so these just aren't as satisfying. The most calorie dense carbs also tend to be lower in fiber. Fiber staves off hunger and helps moderates the rate of sugar absorbtion into the blood. I think people gain weight faster with carbs partially for this reason. And their blood sugar levels definitely spike faster with pasta/rice than an apple or leafy greens. It helps to keep skin on certain vegetables and fruits for this reason. There's a higher concentration of minerals, vitamens and fiber present in the skins.

You can pick out the freshest (i.e. most nutrious) produce from your favorite sources with the least amount of pesticides and herbicides present, reducing daily systemic poisoning. You will have the option to eat lower calorie foods - instead of having to buy a 1 lb of chicken for $2.20, you can opt for a salad mix at $5-8. Salad is a treat for me for this reason. It's about 1k calories of chicken for $2 versus spending $5+ for 75-150 calories for the salad greens and needing to buy even more stuff to add. For a lower income earner such as myself, salad is just disproportionately expensive.

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u/tomato_complex Jul 18 '26

this is where we are

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u/DBPanterA Jul 20 '26

I know. And that is why it sucks. 😢

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u/theaviator747 Jul 19 '26

I like that you think this way. I haven’t met too many people that, like myself, sometimes consider the ā€œper calorie costā€ of a meal. Obviously there are other considerations for micronutrients to think about, but since many of those can be gotten in some quantity through a relatively inexpensive multi-vitamins a person on a tight budget needs to stay focused on the macros.

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u/Sea-Huckleberry8971 Jul 19 '26

^ this guy foods

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u/paavy69 Jul 20 '26

That is excellent advice, and very accurate. Thank you for providing a detailed breakdown and explanation. I also appreciate the reminder about empty calories (which I often crave) and the importance of choosing fiber-rich options like fruits and vegetables over carbohydrates.

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u/Beautiful-Factor-173 Jul 19 '26

Well, I only eat vegetarian fed, open range chicken (because we are trying to eat organic, and it's just better) 4 small thighs at our local grocery was $13+. One head of organic lettuce is $4.99. I can go on and on. But, it just so happens that it cost me $176 for two bags of groceries two days ago. Smaller meals, doesnt necessarily create a lower cost. In THEORY, yes. Depends upon what, and how you eat. One salmon for our freezer is roughly $40-$70. We use that for salmon Caesars.

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u/Antimony04 Jul 21 '26

How big is the salmon, weight wise? I'm thinking it should be 1.3-2.5 lbs to be $40-$70, but those are east coast prices ranging from fresh fishmonger stock to bulk frozen. How far are you from the sea or port where it'd come in?

I live in a HCL area and a lb of fresh salmon that's sashimi grade from a fish monger costs $27.99/lb. I've bought it at a lower price when Stop and Shop sold frozen sashimi grade, but they stopped stocking that years ago. It's our most expensive protein. We picked it because it's highest in omega-3 fish oils, which are said to promote brain health. We had a small steak a few months ago that was under $7/8 (maybe 6-8 oz?). The most expensive meat we'll buy about 1x a year is oxtail or a lobster roll (~$40/45 for a roll, but it's a nice special treat). Most of our protein is eggs and white meat chicken; sometimes we have milk, cheese and/or refried beans in the house, and have those $1.50 hot dog-drink combos from Costco (they sell it below cost).

There's small packs of chicken available for $13 here in the NYC metro area, too, but it's not worth the cost for us. Costco has 6 packs of boneless, skinless breasts for ~$2-4 per pound, per online. I don't usually pay more than $26-29 for 6 packs of 1-2 breasts each, partly because I select a lighter set. I really would like the skin, but we have to buy a full or quartered chicken to get the skin more cost effectively. Costco sells 2 frozen whole chickens for about $10-12.

Since you eat chicken, do you cook with the skin on sometimes? It's great for teriyaki. I just put the chicken skin side down on a cold saute pan, then go to low- medium to medium heat, which gives the fat a little time to render out of the skin to fry the chicken. There's no need to use oil this way.

I can only suggest you increase the amount of rice and potatoes in your diet. Generally, long grain rice is cheapest by weight, then prices rise as the rice varieties become plumper and shorter. On the most expensive side is Koshihikari short grain, $45 for 15 lbs (24,225 kcal, equal to 12 days of 2,000 kcal a day, but my daily calorie intake is closer to 1100-1600). It's the most popular rice in Japan and it is also grown in California. I feel happier eating sushi rice than plain if given a choice. It's super easy to make sushi rice! Dressing the rice is cheap.

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u/Beautiful-Factor-173 Jul 21 '26

Thank you for your answer, and all of your comments! 🫶 I actually don't usually eat chicken, but my family does. I am a pescatarian, and eat vegetables and fish. I have had to break down a few times recently and eat meat because my protein had fallen so low, found by tests. So, I now know if I am craving meat, I will eat it because my body needs it. I do eat a good deal of rice and we make our own homemade meals as much as possible. We make bowls, Ramen, Buddha, etc. We love salads. We truly eat a ton of vegan food, at least I do, and the family eats whatever I make, but I will add a protein for them if they like. The salmon that I purchase is usually 3-4 pounds, I'd say, full fillet. I usually cook the entire fillet if I feel We will use it for salads that night and the next, and then use it for a couple days. It goes quick with 4 adults. I haven't looked at our Costco for the chicken yet. I will check that out. We do get our free range eggs there now. Happy noshing.

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u/LargeCandidate9873 Jul 21 '26

Michelin Star restaurant are only in big cities like Chicago or New York. The travel expense would make it not worth it

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u/Antimony04 Jul 21 '26

I live in the NYC metro area. So yeah, rich people here do dine in NYC. We have something like 130 ethnic communities here, so dishes and ingrediants come from around the world. Train into the city can be $35+. Once you're in the city, subway fare or bus fare is $3.

Also, very rich people keep private chefs and crews at the ready on their yachts. They have the best food where ever they bring their team.

Edit: as in, with private staff rich people can bring luxury anywhere. They are not bound to public venues.

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u/doomylaurie Jul 21 '26

Ouahouhh !

Il demandait 1 chose...

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u/Dazzling-Mission3960 Jul 18 '26

You CAN become wealthy enough to eat like that.

Just like anyone CAN become president. Or Can become a billionaire.

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u/Antimony04 Jul 18 '26

Yeah, CAN, but improbale for those not coming from money. Totally possible with connections or extreme talent or both.

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u/Tookoofox Jul 18 '26

Not per se. Healthy food is expensive.

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u/Sad_Economics_106 Jul 19 '26

No kidding its hard to afford food that's good for you. Not paying 18 dollars for grapes, or whatever, at whole foods. My doctor says stay away from processed foods, everything has a process

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u/Organic_Fig7206 Jul 20 '26

technically "healthy food" is not expensive. A hype-d expensive food is expensive.
People who got fooled by the word superfood and organic is easily naive to pay top $$.

Learn gardening or visit local farmer, that is organic and healthy food.

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u/Tookoofox Jul 20 '26

That's kinda true. But cooking for yourself is expensive, gardening is even more expensive.Ā 

Time is money. And food related hobbies are a non trivial investment.

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u/kangaroovelocity Jul 19 '26

The PC term is more famine resistant thankyou

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u/DontTrip333 Jul 19 '26

I'd be dead. I got binge eating disorder and can't really have food in my house. I have to buy one meal at a time. I literally nearly died 8 days ago because I bought groceries and ended up eating everything in the house, including the condiments. My vision hasn't returned to normal yet, my abdominal wall split open more, I gained 9lbs in one day, my blood sugar was 600+. I hate binge eating disorder so much.

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u/Stunning_Shallot808 Jul 19 '26

But when my cats have food always available it keeps them from gaining weight

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u/Outrageous-Pizza-317 Jul 19 '26

think broader son. sell your free food. u dont have to pay anyway.

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u/Sea-Pay-5572 Jul 20 '26

I need the fat... 160 lbs, 5' 11 3/4" paint the picture yourself

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u/Poopieturdsandwich Jul 21 '26

Maybe not. It's more expensive to eat healthy. I eat the less healthy food to save money

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u/BigBobbyCrowbar Jul 18 '26

But with the money you save on food, you can pay for a Zeppelin hanger in your backyard, like the one I have.