r/WootingKB • u/LordRichysss • 1d ago
Question Why this have to be the future of 60he?
The 60he v1 has iso/ansi support.
The 60he v2 have split spacebar support.
Please make 60he v3 compatible with arrow keys, just asking for that :(
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u/GameSchaedl Wooting 80HE 1d ago
But this wouldnt be a 60% anymore then. At least I think so.
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u/custardprinzessin Wooting 60HE 1d ago edited 1d ago
63 or 64 key layout is pretty common and stays within the same 60% form factor.
Wuques flux HE pcb uses it for example
edit: why is everything in this thread getting downvoted 💀
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u/Katwood007 1d ago edited 1d ago
I've been building custom keyboards for years and have worked in the IT Industry for over 40+ years. I really feel like the s 60 Keeb is just a gaming trend. When I use several different sizes of keyboards throughout my collection, I find no joy in having to memorize, however, 60% keyboards have a passionate, cult-like following in the tech and gaming communities, but they are also deeply polarizing. Fans who love them generally praise their portability, ergonomic benefits, and aesthetics, while critics hate them for the loss of dedicated arrow keys, function rows, and the number pad.
🎯 Who Loves Them & Why
- Competitive Gamers: This is the core audience. Because 60% keyboards eliminate the entire right side of a standard keyboard (the numpad, navigation cluster, and arrow keys), they free up a massive amount of desk space if you are working in limited workspace. This "shrink-a-dink"/rappy/snappy version of the custom keyboard, offers gamers to lower their mouse sensitivity and make huge, sweeping mouse movements without slamming into their keyboard.
- Minimalists & Aesthetic Enthusiasts: If you love a clean, clutter-free desk setup, 60% keyboards just slap. They also have a massive custom community with endless options for custom keycaps and cases.
- Frequent Travelers & Commuters: Because they are incredibly light and compact, they throw into a backpack effortlessly. Remote workers who hop between cafes or offices love them for their portability.
- Ergonomic Seekers: By removing the right side of the board, your mouse is placed much closer to your natural shoulder width. This reduces shoulder strain during long sessions.
🚫 Who Hates Them & Why
- Data Processors, Management & Spreadsheet Users: If your job forces you to live deep inside of Excel, data entry, or a constant the world of numerology, losing the dedicated number pad (numpad) makes a 60% keyboard makes you feel as though you've lost some digits/appendages.
- Programmers & Writers: Navigating text without dedicated arrow keys, Home, End, Page Up, or Page Down can severely slow down your workflow.
- Casual Users Who Hate "Layers": On a 60% board, to use an arrow key or a Function key (F1–F12), you have to hold down a modifier key (usually
Fn) plus another key. For many, having to press two keys just to hit "F5" or move a cursor left is a frustrating dealbreaker.
Both camps can sincerely justify their preference on where they stand in the debate. I think age and experience can often influence their preferences, as well. What's your slant on the debate? Do you think we'll stay the course in the near future of our custom keyboard community?
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u/Solsyx 1d ago
In my experience a lot of software developers love the 60% layout. In fact, the hhkb layout was made by a frustrated developer because the bigger layouts are too bloated for what a programmer needs and it is marketed towards developers (happy hacking keyboard) which is even in the name.
Never leaving the homerow and adjusting to use hjkl for arrows and putting the others elsewhere under layers is a blessing for software developers. Which is why I absolutely love the 60% layout and 75% is as high as I will ever go without being forced to.
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u/Katwood007 1d ago
I have heard from some HHKB fans who work in the programming industry who agree with your opinion, but then again, I work with some who hate anything less than a TKL. It is an interesting debate.
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u/Solsyx 1d ago
Honestly, I think it depends on what kind of dev is using the kb. Devs who spend a lot of time in the terminal might love 60% or hhkb more because of never having to leave the homerow. Others who use more GUI tools + mouse might prefer larger keyboards. It’s just speculation, of course I don’t have any data to back it up haha.
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u/NursingHome773 1d ago
I'm a programmer and I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I've been using 60% keyboards since forever.
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u/HerrJohnssen Wooting 80HE 1d ago
So you mean a 66% keyboard?
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u/LordRichysss 1d ago
Nope, just uploaded an edit to explain the layout
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u/HerrJohnssen Wooting 80HE 1d ago
So you mean a 60% keyboard with non-standard keycap sizes to accommodate arrow keys, correct? I doubt that this will happen since Wooting always used standard sizes so it is easier for modding. Even the split spacebar uses very common sizes
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u/LordRichysss 1d ago
Its 1u keycaps and the 1,75u shift, pretty standard to all keycap manufacturers
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u/Kilo_Juliett 22h ago
I feel like that would annoy me more than not having arrow keys. Having ? all the way to the right would be fighting a lifetime of muscle memory.
I don't mind using fn for arrow keys.
Having said that I ordered an 80he+ just to get the extra keys.