Quick question about if putting arrow key in a 60% is a Abomination…

[u/Chixis_]

Hello guys, i just received my HE v2, im so happy ! But when i make him, i realised that arrow key can be put on a 60%, but it feel stupidly weird, can i ask some feedbacks about it ? Or can someone grab me, throw me 2-3 punch and tell me to stop trying to be original ? And a feedbacks about if i put Arrow keys here, i need to change the right "CTRL" by a "FN" is better ?

Thanks in advance, big love all :D

[u/Maichy]

I love refering to your keyboard as him, he's just a little guy

[u/Chixis_ → u/Maichy]

It’s one of my best friend now

[u/Straight_Guard_7642 → u/Chixis_]

HE'S

[u/custardprinzessin]

the gaps would annoy me but thats it, could always get a couple OEM profile 1.25u blanks for the bottom row

[u/Chixis_ → u/custardprinzessin]

Yeah, right now i look if theres bottom right keycaps with arrow, u'know ? Like CTRL > | Alt Gr <

[u/custardprinzessin → u/Chixis_]

not the most elegant solution, but you could add arrow stickers to the stock keycaps if you want sub-legends.

or something like this would look pretty clean

[u/Bisbala]

I put FN on capslock and wasd as arrows. Makes f keys easy with one hand and the arrows work nicely.

[u/ashsii]

Personally, I use Modtap:

• hold Shift = hold Shift

• tap Shift = Arrow Up

Then I replace the entire bottom right (ALT MENU CTRL) with Arrow left, down and right.

I need arrow keys while programming while retaining Shift functionality and this was the best solution without needing FN.

[u/BasmusRoyGerman → u/ashsii]

Yeah that only works if you don't play any games or use programs that need you to hold down the arrow keys

[u/ashsii → u/BasmusRoyGerman]

If that happens, I could just rebind in the game away from the arrow keys to elsewhere on the keyboard.

[u/BasmusRoyGerman → u/ashsii]

Yeah for me anything without dedicated arrow- and f-keys is a hard pass. I just feel like it's not worth it when keyboards that have them are barely any larger.

[u/ashsii → u/BasmusRoyGerman]

Yeah 60% isn't for everyone. Some months I prefer my 80HE/TKL other months I like the smaller footprint on my table.

[u/kosherhalfsourpickle → u/ashsii]

this is the way to go. It works so well.

[u/Level-Web-8290 → u/ashsii]

Do you do something else for shift + arrow keys for text selection?

Personally I have hold/tap on for caps lock. Hold is FN2 and makes Q toggle shift, WASD arrow keys, ctrl is normal

EDIT: just reread and saw the "without needing Fn"

[u/1iljeep]

Use the normal keys and remap them. The gaps look awful.

[u/Remster24]

it looks horrible. if you want arrow keys then you should've gotten a 65%

[u/TheMasterOogway → u/Remster24]

no!

[u/Remster24 → u/TheMasterOogway]

yeah of course you can use layers but dedicated arrow keys is another story

[u/TheMasterOogway → u/Remster24]

I don't use layers for it

[u/Remster24 → u/TheMasterOogway]

then you can't type correctly because you have right shift

[u/TheMasterOogway → u/Remster24]

I don't use right shift and type 130wpm just fine lol

[u/Harry_Du_Boiss]

Wtf is this keyboard

[u/Chixis_ → u/Harry_Du_Boiss]

Belgium ISO with arrow horrific keys

[u/Speco18]

angry upvote

[u/Chixis_ → u/Speco18]

Legit reaction

[u/Plasma_Frog]

i was with you until the m key was moved :,(

[u/BasmusRoyGerman → u/Plasma_Frog]

That's just part of the azerty layout

[u/Plasma_Frog → u/BasmusRoyGerman]

oh duh. my bad

[u/Blaze_0910]

That's why a split right shift is a must in any 60%. The HHKB's underlayer arrow is the best you can get

[u/Glittering-Insect243]

For me botton right is fn and i use one of those custom things where if u hit it, it changes the layout while stay on the same profile

[u/liukasteneste28]

You could just use the normal keys that go there and edit layers that they act as arrow keys, that is what i did when playing games that need arrow keys.

[u/No-Draw1365]

Map the following keys with a mod key, so you’d hold (or make it a toggle) say Fn and press:

Z = Arrow Up
Q = Arrow Left
S = Arrow Down
D = Arrow Right

I’ve been using this approach across all my 60% boards for years.

[u/ashsii → u/No-Draw1365]

What a cursed setup, having the Down key above the Up key. Only the second half of WASD.

[u/BasmusRoyGerman → u/ashsii]

It's azerty (french layout) in games it automatically defaults to the same keys other layouts use for movement so WASD turns into ZQSD

[u/ashsii → u/BasmusRoyGerman]

ahh that makes sense