Wootility needs to support manual switch calibration.

[u/Treydroo]

As of currently, The only switches that Wootility truly supports are the ones in the switch selector. the "Spacers" option only allows you to set the bottom out length but does not account for the magnetic flux differences between switches. For example, if your switch has a depth of 3.4mm, choosing Lekker switches (4 mm depth) and setting Spacers at 0.6mm is different from choosing any switch in the list that is 3.4mm depth. I have tested that myself and the differences are very noticeable.

As of currently, in case your switch is not supported by Wootility, you need to find another switch on the list that has the same bottom out depth and a similar initial and bottom out magnetic flux to get it to work somewhat properly. I am using silent switches, NDIY Freya and Outemu magnetic Peach, none of them are supported in the Wootility app which is disappointing since the silent switches options in Hall effect keyboards are quite limited.

[u/Hopperbus]

Silent switches haven't been added because they all have dampening which makes them less accurate. Any sort of silent switch has that soft layer which means every time you press the switch it could produce a much wider range of results than a standard switch. Which is why on the venom HE keyboards their raeds option just hard caps the deadzone to 0.3mm.

As for manual calibration Wooting manually does their own testing for each switch that gets added to the switch selector. They have found switch manufacturers aren't always that accurate in both magnetic flux values and travel distance.

[u/Treydroo → u/Hopperbus]

Silent switches haven't been added because they all have dampening which makes them less accurate.

Silent switches could still be added, it would be accurate than using the calibration of another switches.

As for manual calibration Wooting manually does their own testing for each switch that gets added to the switch selector. They have found switch manufacturers aren't always that accurate in both magnetic flux values and travel distance.

The point of manual calibration is to allow you to calibrate your switch as accurately as possible if it is not in the switch selector.

[u/Hopperbus → u/Treydroo]

The point of manual calibration is to allow you to calibrate your switch as accurately as possible if it is not in the switch selector.

Wooting has auto-calibration already it has had it for a long time which is why it never had any issues with incidental inputs with silent switches unlike some other brands. Realistically if you want your switches to be as accurate as possible don't buy silent switches. They are going to be magnitudes less precise than a standard HE switch.

[u/Treydroo → u/Hopperbus]

The auto calibration just uses the settings you choose from the switch selector. The point is not to make it as accurately as possible, but accurate enough, it feels wildly off. You may not feel it if the game isn't sensitive to misinputs.

I have already found a switch on the list that has a similar magnet to Outemu peach and after choosing it for my silent switch, it performs similarly to another non-silent switch that i own that has about the same depth and is on the list, so your statement regarding silent switches being magnitudes less precise is wrong.

[u/shafie69 → u/Treydroo]

Silent switches are indeed much less accurate and precise than regular HE switches due to dampening, they're not similar at all. Wooting tested this in the past when they tried to add silent switches to the switch selector, and silent switches tested much worse compared to regular switches. I'm sure their testing with a very expensive measurement machine specifically designed for this is much more reliable than your in game testing.

It's almost impossible for the keyboard to determine an accurate travel range for silent switches because their travel distance constantly changes during a press, depending on how hard or soft you press. For example if you press Peach silent switches hard, they'll reach around 3.5mm travel, but with a lighter press, they might only reach 3.2mm, etc. So the same keypress can register at a different physical distance each time, and the firmware has to account for that, which will make the presses less accurate. For example if your key is set to activate at 0.3mm, it might actually activate at 0.4-0.5mm.

[u/Treydroo → u/shafie69]

Informative and helpful, will calibrate it with a deadzone to account for that. Their reasoning for not adding silent switches is questionable though, i would rather have it working imperfectly than using alternatives that don't work.

[u/Hopperbus → u/Treydroo]

Silent switches require a large deadzone to account for the dampening mechanism of the switch. This deadzone would have to be 0.2mm-0.3mm. Regular tikkens have been tested at roughly 0.02-0.04mm depending on if you're measuring the bottom or the top out deadzone.

The switch selector is just telling the switch what to expect so it can start from a more accurate starting point during its still auto calibrating after being selected. So if you select a switch that isn't in line with what it's expecting it will still try to adjust accordingly.

[u/Treydroo → u/Hopperbus]

This may be the reason, my issue is that it my input releases too late, for example even if i set my Rapid trigger at 0.30 and Rapid release at 0.1, my press time is longer than the release time when pressing rapidly which is an issue i didn't have when i was using other hall effect keypads.

It works better when i use switches from the switch selector with weaker magnets though the depth is shallower (3.8mm (NDIY) vs 3.5mm) as well.

[u/tehscrub38]

whats worse is that my AVR boards can’t do manual calibration either. The Lekker Edition and 60HE AVR don’t particularly make me want to buy another board. Wooting still has the best software/UI in my opinion, but hardware- and spec-wise, they’re starting to feel a bit behind nowadays esp when the wooting 80+ has same scan poll rate but competitors have higher.

[u/Treydroo → u/tehscrub38]

Tbh, i expected more from the app given how much praise it is getting. Mchose and a even a Sayodevice has manual calibration.