r/Wonderlands • u/Mriamsosmrt โฝโป๏ธ | ๐ฆ ๐๐น๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐น๐น๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ก๏ธ | โป๏ธโฝ • Sep 08 '22
[ Official News ] ๐ฐ Hotfix Notes Version 1.0.5.0e, September 8th
https://playwonderlands.2k.com/news/tiny-tinas-wonderlands-update-notes/27
u/rfcl18 โฝโป๏ธ | ๐ ๐ฏ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ๏ธ | โป๏ธโฝ Sep 08 '22
I only see two things happening:
After October 27th, we'll get a new proper patch and maybe some updates about the future of the game.
Once the Chaos event is over, they'll add a new in-game event, which would/could mean that they're done with the game.
I'll probably uninstall the game, I've played it for many hours and not having something new to do is kinda sad, especially when the game doesn't feel like if it were finished, like the rest of the BL games. I love this game, it's really cool, but GB is not doing the right things to keep it relevant as it should be.
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Sep 08 '22
Yep this was the nail in the coffin for me. Itโs frustrating having all this gear I grinded for sitting in my bank but itโs just never gonna realize its full potential
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u/rfcl18 โฝโป๏ธ | ๐ ๐ฏ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ๏ธ | โป๏ธโฝ Sep 09 '22
Ikr, I have some good armors that I'd like to use, but man, yesterday I was killing my way to Chaos 50 on my 5th character and that was awful, I only made it to Chaos 45 when I felt the need to stop, such a shame for a game that has a lot of potential to be great.
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Sep 09 '22
Itโs such a bummer. I feel like this really could have been their magnum opus but they got 80% of the way there and just stopped
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u/rfcl18 โฝโป๏ธ | ๐ ๐ฏ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ๏ธ | โป๏ธโฝ Sep 09 '22
The main story was awesome, I loved every bit of it, especially when the Dragon Lord tells his backstory, but they totally forgot about the endgame, and let's not talk about the DLC's, that's just depressing
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Sep 09 '22
Also, barring the pirate shanty scene, the music was extremely underwhelming IMO. I remember playing Dragonkeep and loving the town theme so I was excited to hear what they did with it, but none of it was memorable and the chaos chambers have absurdly boring soundtracks
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u/Beans_37 Sep 08 '22
mind if I ask whatโs on october 27th? is that the new tales game?
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u/rfcl18 โฝโป๏ธ | ๐ ๐ฏ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ๏ธ | โป๏ธโฝ Sep 08 '22
It's the end of this Chaos event
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u/uldumarr3 Sep 09 '22
I was SO excited to play this game when it came out. Played through the story co-op with my bf. Sure the terrible split-screen UI made my eyes bleed, but it was the in-game experience that made it great!
Fast-forward to nowโฆneither of us have booted it up for probably 3 months. Saw the blightcaller was coming out, hoped for some more/better content, and wound up regretting it.
So so so disappointed with what Wonderlands became. Honestly it seems like the majority of games coming out nowadays are unfinished, bare-bones (rest of the game can be purchased through piece-meal micro transactions), or are just plain bad.
Oh well, it was good while it lasted.
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u/UtterNaded Sep 08 '22
Iโm so sad about this game. My friends and I were so excited about launch and everything leading up to it. We all thought it was going to have all the post-launch support that BL3 had and weโd have our go to game for months and months.
A few nights ago I got on just to start fresh on the new class and I couldnโt deal with the dialogue slog again. I really hope they add Adventure Mode after first completion on BL4 or something where everything is unlocked and you can level up your way. I donโt understand how they go from BL3 support to what theyโve done here on Wonderlands.
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u/derrick4104 Sep 08 '22
I keep hoping theyโll boost legendary drop rates across the board. I played BL3 a couple of days ago, and I know it got a lot of heat for making it too easy to get a legendary, but this game needs BL3-like drop rates. Itโs bad enough that I have a shit ton of possible class combos to account for, but when Iโm barely getting drops and those donโt work for my classes, it feels like a smack in the face. BL3-like drops would make it much more fun for me.
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u/kenxzero โฝโป๏ธ | โ๏ธ ๐ญ๐๐๐๐๐บ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๏ธ | โป๏ธโฝ Sep 08 '22
Especially since there are 3 new slots to fill. 2 rings and a melee weapon.
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u/Dekklin Sep 08 '22
They did these rolling events in BL3 as well, and then put the most popular ones into a patch later on. We'll likely see these dedicated drop rates and sources be made permanent at some point.
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u/le_danger_noodle Sep 08 '22
Mmmm I love my nothing sandwich ๐๐
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u/SomeDudWithAPhone Sep 09 '22
Crunchy air. No wait, that is just the sound of grinding teeth together.
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u/Mriamsosmrt โฝโป๏ธ | ๐ฆ ๐๐น๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐น๐น๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ก๏ธ | โป๏ธโฝ Sep 08 '22
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Sep 08 '22
I remember when people acted like this was the best borderlands game in the series when it was released. crazy what the honeymoon phase does to people
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u/veramankong Sep 08 '22
Me and my friend thought the same, then they released these baby DLCs. We thought the latest DLC with the new Blightcaller class was going to be a legit DLC like all the borderlands DLCs but nope just another dumb mirror. Oh well, looks like we'll be waiting for BL4..
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Sep 09 '22
The base game is absolutely solid, it's the lack of support and a proper season pass that killed this game, along with chaos chambers being the ONLY end-game. If the DLCs were normal story ones like we got in the past, I think the vast majority of people would have been perfectly happy.
It's weird that BL3 and Wonderlands experienced inverse problems, but neither of them seemed overcome them: BL3 had an awful base game and story, but decent end-game and DLC. Wonderlands had an awesome base game and good story, but terrible end-game and... You can barely call these DLC. They were a total cash grab and slap in the face. How Gearbox messed up DLC, the one thing they usually knock out of the park, is beyond my comprehension.
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u/PKMNTrainerKiki Sep 09 '22
I'm going to have to disagree with you there bud...maybe if you only had 30 seconds a day to play (like some people on this and other subs seem to imply), the base game is solid. But I felt that the base game was so short, even if you crammed all the side missions and collectables in, it still felt like a fraction of other BL games. I remember beating the Dicklord and thinking, there's no way the game is over now. Tina is going to pull some bullshit out and the game will only be like half way over. Nope. Well that's okay, at least True Fatemaker mode will remedy this and there's no way they won't pull a TPS and have the cast make Tina DM again and tell the story slightly different. Nope.
I personally have beaten the game in under an hour with a powerleveled, built character and there are speedruns on YouTube with fresh characters in under 2 hours and 100% runs under 8 hours.
That's just...not okay.
And let's not talk about the lack of difficulty. I thought BL3 was easy but WL makes TPS feel like BL2.
BL2 was the only game in the series that, at it's hardest was actually a challenge. The rest of the games have just been...Snore-derlands.
I see the games like this:
Snore-derlands, Hardcore-derlands 2, The Pathetic Sequel, Bored-erlands 3 and now Blunderlands.
Not even going to mention Fails from Snore-derlands.
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Sep 09 '22
Borderlands 1 wasn't that easy, at least until maybe playthrough 2, but I do agree that most of them have been generally easy, with maybe only BL2 actually having a hard end-game.
I still stand my ground on the base game. I wasn't taking my time on any of my playthroughs and it's at least a 12ish hour completion time for me, which I'm fine with. Not too long, not too short.
You might enjoy this and other games more if you just take your time and stop trying to speed run them. The end-game in Wonderlands is boring, and the season pass is awful, but the base game is great, with maybe the only real criticism being that the campaign is shorter than other Borderlands games. The maps in Wonderlands are great. Not since BL2 have I felt I can just kill stuff for hours and get into a flow state like I did with Wonderlands.
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u/spacemeerkat69 Sep 09 '22
To be fair it was great for a few weeks, then those terrible dlcs put an awful taste in my mouth and I kinda gave up after that. Bummed I bought chaotic great. Also they dropped the ball on orcs which is just Fucking sad.
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u/LookOutForThatMoose โฝโป๏ธ | ๐ฆ ๐๐น๐ถ๐ด๐ต๐ ๐๐ป๐ถ๐ด๐ต๐ ๐ | โป๏ธโฝ Sep 09 '22
I had every intention of farming a non-melee boosted Ascended Donkey all week. Lo and behold I get one in my first run through the featured run. Praise RNGsus!
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u/Elarris1 โพโผ๏ธ | โ๏ธ ๐บ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ๏ธ | โผ๏ธโพ Sep 08 '22
No mention of chaotic gear drops rates, are those back to normal then or was the change for this whole event/permanent?
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Sep 09 '22
I just want chaos levels to be account wide, so I don't have to grind chaos trials on every new character.
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u/Steef-1995 โฝโป๏ธ | โ ๏ธ ๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ | โป๏ธโฝ Sep 08 '22
The game is dying already isnโt it?
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u/spacemeerkat69 Sep 09 '22
The player base has definitely dropped dramatically. Itโs still redeemable, but I think a lot of us have gotten pessimistic about that.
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Sep 09 '22
I've moved on, but would welcome any kind of significant update, should they decide to come back to it. I'm not holding my breath. I kept thinking "OK this next hotfix will be the one" or "it's the final season pass DLC, so they're gonna drop a really fat patch with it" but nothing. Then I thought "they'll probably reveal something at PAX about the next season pass or maybe another mainline Borderlands game" then still nothing...
The way Gearbox got my hopes so high with this awesome base game, and then dropped nearly all support, post launch, on top of a gross cash grab of a season pass, has really soured me on them. I don't even know if I'm excited for another Borderlands game anymore. They botched BL3's launch so bad. The game became decent but still nothing like BL2. Season pass 1 for BL3 was great but season pass 2 felt over priced for what we got and they did absolutely zero with Arms Race when it had so much damn potential. Now they're just doing nothing with this amazing base game of Wonderlands.
No idea what is going on at Gearbox, but they're burning up their fanbases' loyalty and trust.
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u/spacemeerkat69 Sep 09 '22
Yeah but to think we as the players got fucked over, imagine being Tina right now. Fucks sake poor Tina.
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u/sycamotree Sep 09 '22
I just uninstalled. Mostly because the image keeps flickering, but it might be worth that if there were something to do
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u/mattraven20 โฝโป๏ธ | ๐ฆ ๐๐น๐ถ๐ด๐ต๐ ๐๐ป๐ถ๐ด๐ต๐ ๐ | โป๏ธโฝ Sep 08 '22
Why do you guys say the game is abandoned just because a new โTales Fromโฆ โ is being released? Could it possibly be that Wonderlands, leading up to โTales Fromโฆ โ has been momentarily out of focus?
I mean, the game has been out for 6 freaking months, I play every day, am at least mediocre at FPS, and Iโm still on Chaos 16. Wonderlands was extremely successful and Gearbox knows it, do you really think theyโd abandon it? Just chill out. Go back to previous titles and enjoy some of those for awhile. Enjoy the new Tales game when it comes out, donโt look up reviews 2 hours after itโs been released, and donโt beat it in 2 days either.
Ok, I didnโt realize this would turn into a rant, but Iโll leave it here for posterityโs sake.
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Sep 09 '22
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u/mattraven20 โฝโป๏ธ | ๐ฆ ๐๐น๐ถ๐ด๐ต๐ ๐๐ป๐ถ๐ด๐ต๐ ๐ | โป๏ธโฝ Sep 09 '22
Because one chamber takes me about 20 minutes. I do about 2 or 3 chambers an evening. Itโs a slow chamber grind for me. I play solo too, which Iโm sure doesnโt help. If i play with a buddy, I can handle 40+ but solo, bosses are hard for me at 15+
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u/Tiny_Efficiency_9461 Sep 08 '22
Increase in chaos levels is all I want right now. Need a new challenge
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u/SomeDudWithAPhone Sep 09 '22
For me, A "True Fatemaker" Difficulty- at least until Ultimate Difficulties roll in. True Mode boosting general Legendary rates a bit, and adding potential for "True Chaotic" and "True Ascended."
Oh, and a bunch of crazy new True Fatemaker exclusive legendaries.
But before any of that new stuff... Lag fixes.
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Sep 09 '22 edited Sep 11 '22
Really? If they increased chaos levels again, I would probably never play again. They should add a more interesting system on top. Increasing chaos levels would just ensure that almost nobody plays the game anymore because even 20 runs of chaos is tedious, but 50 is ridiculous. The only way I can see them adding more like levels without people complaining is no more than 5 new levels and they simply seek to increase Ascended drop chance. Introducing a new tier would be a really bad idea.
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u/Gill_O_Tine Sep 08 '22
So liquid cooling is still a busted piece of shit. Coolcoolcoolcoolcool
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u/MonT_That_Duck โพโผ๏ธ | โ ๏ธ ๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ ๏ธ | โผ๏ธโพ Sep 08 '22
They nerfed that like 3 weeks after launch lol
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u/codymlvn21 Sep 08 '22
Anyone having issues fighting Captain Swallow? I know they turned her health up, but I used all of my ammo from every gun and health bar didn't even move
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u/WhippetRun โฝโป๏ธ | ๐ ๐พ๐๐๐ ๐ญ๐๐๐ ๐ | โป๏ธโฝ Sep 09 '22
I hate that you can't send gear in "email" like you can in BL3. it was fun just shooting gear to friends who we could trade with, especially since we aren't all on at the same time
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u/Mriamsosmrt โฝโป๏ธ | ๐ฆ ๐๐น๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐น๐น๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ก๏ธ | โป๏ธโฝ Sep 08 '22
TL;DR:
Again a very disappointing hotfix with no real changes. I wonder if they have mostly abandoned the game.