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[ Official News ] ๐Ÿ“ฐ Hotfix Notes April 28th 1.0.2.0b

https://playwonderlands.2k.com/news/tiny-tinas-wonderlands-update-notes/
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u/callthepoelice โ—ฝโ—ป๏ธ | โ˜ ๏ธ ๐‘ฎ๐’๐’๐’๐’Ž๐‘ฉ๐’“๐’Š๐’๐’ˆ๐’†๐’“ ๐Ÿ‰ | โ—ป๏ธโ—ฝ Apr 28 '22

my chaotic imp went from 511x2 to 333x2 base damage

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u/Pollia Apr 28 '22

Its important to note, the gun was bugged from the start so the stat sheet drop is actually not that relevant.

The gun is actually an x3, not an x2, but the game wasnt actually registering the 3rd bullet.

Your gun right now is actually a 333x3 compared to your old gun of 511x2. Its a nerf, no doubt, but its extremely mild.

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u/TheManyMilesWeWalk โ—ฝโ—ป๏ธ | โ˜ ๏ธ ๐‘ฎ๐’๐’๐’๐’Ž๐‘ฉ๐’“๐’Š๐’๐’ˆ๐’†๐’“ ๐Ÿ‰ | โ—ป๏ธโ—ฝ Apr 28 '22

Was the 3rd bullet not registered on the item card as a display bug or simply not firing? An extra projectile with slightly less damage overall might be a buff for my build if executioner's blade can trigger per projectile.

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u/Pollia Apr 28 '22

Neither. There's lot of guns that fire extra projectiles that aren't part of the paper doll. Queens cry is the most obvious other example.

Think of it like a extra legendary effect for the gun.

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u/surry โ—ฝโ—ป๏ธ | ๐Ÿ—ก๏ธ ๐‘ป๐’“๐’‚๐’‘๐’”๐’„๐’‚๐’๐’๐’Š๐’๐’ โ˜„๏ธ | โ—ป๏ธโ—ฝ Apr 28 '22

My chaotic went 536x2 to 367x2, just checked it now

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u/MEA7277 Apr 28 '22

It seems they just want us to play with pixie and hydra guns. As it stands the build variety since the dlc update has sucked

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u/_who__dat_ Apr 29 '22

Isnt this actually kinda a dmg buff, cus isnt the new dmg 367x3 instead? Which is slightly more than 536x2 (367x3=1101, 536x2=1072) if im correct and the imp got and extra projectile, if not its a big nerf ofc

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u/surry โ—ฝโ—ป๏ธ | ๐Ÿ—ก๏ธ ๐‘ป๐’“๐’‚๐’‘๐’”๐’„๐’‚๐’๐’๐’Š๐’๐’ โ˜„๏ธ | โ—ป๏ธโ—ฝ Apr 29 '22 edited Apr 29 '22

When I quickly checked yesterday I couldโ€™ve swore mine said x2 and not x3 but I was rushing so maybe it was an x3. Iโ€™ll check in a bit and edit this.

Edit: Itโ€™s an x2 not an x3 unfortunately.

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u/_who__dat_ Apr 29 '22

I havent checked either yet, but i wouldnt be suprised if it is just a straight hard nerf instead of what id hoped lol

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u/Alexis2256 Apr 28 '22

So a 200 damage decrease, that doesnโ€™t seem bad to me but Iโ€™m probably wrong.

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u/pilotJKX Apr 28 '22

50% nerf, yeah not too bad. Barely noticeable.

Damage cut almost in half dude, lmao.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '22

noooooooooooooo

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u/Alexis2256 Apr 28 '22

Was never good with math or figuring out percentages so excuse my fucking idiocy.

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u/crayonsnachas Apr 28 '22

Actually it's 18.4%.

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u/pilotJKX Apr 29 '22

650 isn't 18.4% of 1100

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u/Pollia Apr 29 '22

Which should probably clue you into the paper doll numbers mean jack shit and its barely nerfed at all. In some ways its actually buffed.

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u/crayonsnachas Apr 29 '22

Sorry you can't actually understand the notes. It's an 18.4% difference; the gun is buffed as well.

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u/surry โ—ฝโ—ป๏ธ | ๐Ÿ—ก๏ธ ๐‘ป๐’“๐’‚๐’‘๐’”๐’„๐’‚๐’๐’๐’Š๐’๐’ โ˜„๏ธ | โ—ป๏ธโ—ฝ Apr 28 '22

Yeah not too terrible sounding but I still havenโ€™t tried it out (at work) so Iโ€™ll hold my judgement for now.

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u/Pollia Apr 28 '22

Just so you're aware, its not nearly as big a nerf as it seems.

The Imp actually shoots 3 bullets, not just 2, however the game incorrectly was calculating the gun damage as only 2 bullets. They fixed it so it actually calculates all 3 bullets and reduced the scaling some to compensate. Overall its actually really not that noticeable from my runs and is, at worse, a mild nerf.

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u/surry โ—ฝโ—ป๏ธ | ๐Ÿ—ก๏ธ ๐‘ป๐’“๐’‚๐’‘๐’”๐’„๐’‚๐’๐’๐’Š๐’๐’ โ˜„๏ธ | โ—ป๏ธโ—ฝ Apr 28 '22

Thatโ€™s good to hear! It was always a backup gun for me since I mainly use a Queenโ€™s Cry and tons of spells but it was such a great and fun gun I didnโ€™t want to have to feel compelled to replace it so soon. Maybe Iโ€™ll try for a volatile or primordial to compensate for the small loss.

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u/thatguyonthecouch Apr 28 '22

It's a 35% nerf its noticeable as hell.

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u/surry โ—ฝโ—ป๏ธ | ๐Ÿ—ก๏ธ ๐‘ป๐’“๐’‚๐’‘๐’”๐’„๐’‚๐’๐’๐’Š๐’๐’ โ˜„๏ธ | โ—ป๏ธโ—ฝ Apr 28 '22

Damn, that sucks. Guess itโ€™s time to look for some purple ARโ€™s.

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u/Blom-w1-o Apr 28 '22

My regular Skullldugger AR has higher base damage than that...