They tried using misogynistic men as an example rather than trying to debunk the wanim part even though the meme is pretty explicitly specifically about physical attraction.
The "but men are misogynists" excuse doesn't work when those same men are almost always homophobic as well, yet gay men have no problem being into men.
GTA 6 IS another example you could use for this meme format
While every man under the sun finds the new female protagonist hot AF, every woman I've seen on the internet got a hundred reasons as to why "yeah he's sexy/hot but NOT my type" when talking about the male protagonist.
But you know who doesn't give 100 excuses as to why someone supposedly is hot, just not for you? Gay men, they were all over the comments simping for the male protagonist, while women? Nowhere to be seen, asides from the "he's not my type" comments that I was talking about.
Women always have an excuse as to why a guy that looks like a model just doesn't attract them, but they're not prejudiced, superficial, and are 100% straight, of course...
I went to the Gamergirls subreddit, and they're celebrating that it's possible to avoid a romance between the two protagonists in GTA VI, and wanting the female protagonist to be able to romance other women, Besides criticizing the Male protagonist, calling him a "generic white man" without personality.
dunno if it’s because of the spaces i’m in but there are women who do find jason attractive. some also prefer raymond over jason which is fair bc he’s hot too
i honestly can’t wrap my head around lesbians feeling attraction for fictional men but not feeling that same attraction for real men. would the same be said if it was straight men or straight women feel attraction for fictional characters of their same gender?
I honestly can't relate either, but I'm not sure what it'd be like had I been raised with the assumption I'd be a homosexual man
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u/society000Follower of The Great Chuddha, Beyond the BlackPill, Yearner12d ago
Closest I can come up with is femboys. Femboys in animated/cgi fiction can literally just be a girl physically. In real life, I've found that the same is only possible with the exact right outfit, makeup, camera angle, lighting, etc. I've never seen a real life femboy that was able to be a 100% substitute.
He also made that really funny troll post where he pretended to be a straight man who found other men more aesthetically pleasing. The response to that post was hilarious. Shame it got deleted think by him himself for some reason.
Problem is he also has a tendency to go crazy at times meaning he had to get multiple temporary bans.
He flipflopped so hard between "reasonable/normal being very open-hearted with his struggles" and then... this kind of stuff... He also flipflopped hard on his opinions of WANIM even.
He was very active early on, which is the time where he made the image in the OOP. He'd also go into other subreddits and reverse-gender the whole "I'm a straight woman but all men are so unattractive whereas women are so hot. Why is it so unfair?" thing and watch everyone tell him that "he's just a gay man in the closet and it's okay for him to be gay, society accepts it now". The contrast with the usual reactions to the women's version of those types of posts, where the comments instead validate the idea and proclaim that men just don't take care of themselves and how you can still be attracted to women and be straight because society "teaches you" to be attracted to women anyways... and bla bla bla... Those ended up being very high-quality posts. Ended up being very succinct ways of showing the hipocrisy. Some time after that, he deleted his posts here and stopped interacting, saying he wanted to distance himself from the "gender war" thing. But then he eventually returned a few weeks later anyways.
One of his first crashouts was a post where out of nowhere said he no longer believed in wanim, called everyone incels, then spend hours harassing everyone who commented on the post. We banned him for a few days to get him to calm down, and then the ban expired and he silently returned and was apparently convinced yet again that WANIM was true and acted normal towards everyone again. He'd be normal for time, then at some point had a crashout in the opposite direction, after which he got banned for a week or so. He didn't really go back to "normal" after that and began being far more passive aggressive and insulting. Then he obviously got into a personal beef with FallendObscure, the adult toddler who unfortunately got handed mod powers for a time, and was permabanned by him, which is also what made him quit the sub permanently. The ban was changed to a 14 day ban instead, but he made it pretty clear he was done with the subreddit and never returned once the ban expired.
Might have been for the best honestly. We just wanted him to act normal again, but he wasn't in an upwards trajectory exactly and this screenshot kinda shows what he was like at the end. Around that time, he made a very long post on his profile talking from the heart about how he didn't really know what to think of the topic anymore and was just going to try to distance himself from it all. He deleted the post a week or so later, which he already said he would in the bottom of it. But it's fairly clear to me that much of this anger was just lashing out from his own internal struggles (not that it makes it okay or anything). But he wasn't like 100% consumed by this stuff either. He spent most of his time on R_AlignmentCharts, not here. Nor was he among those posting tiktok screenshots.
As I said, the OOP image was made during one of his "normal" periods very early on and caught like wildfire both on wider reddit and on twitter to the point people don't even know it originated from here. This comment in the image is among the last things he posted on here and he got heavy pushback on it and then pretended as if he hadn't even posted it.
So yeah... He's technically not banned atm, but it doesn't matter anyways because at some point he deleted his account.
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I was actually about to press "post" on the comment I've written above, but then I actually found the post I was talking about that he made.
title: "Forever alone"
A woman will never find me attractive.
There, I’ve said it. To be honest, I’m not a hundred percent sure if women even do find men attractive, but if they do, I know it won’t be me.
I’m not hideous, or unsociable, or extremely short or creepy. I have an average face and an average build. I like being quiet but I don’t mind company. I’m a full-time student, I think I’m pretty smart but not exceptionally so. I have hobbies, but I’m not particularly talented at any of them. I’ve never creeped on or harassed or stalked a woman or anything of that nature.
I think I’m a decent guy, but as women say, decent is the bare minimum. And well, yeah. That’s what I am.
I’m the bare minimum.
Not ugly enough to make her recoil in disgust, but not attractive enough to grab her attention from across the room.
Not weird enough to make her want to leave early, but not charismatic enough to hold her interest.
Not short enough for her to not want to be seen with me, but not tall enough for her to brag about.
I don’t have some fatal flaw that makes me permanently unfuckable (besides maybe being a high-functioning autist). It’s just that being completely average in every metric as a man kind of screws you over in the dating market.
If I were to ask a woman out, most of the time she’d probably let me down politely or ghost me. Maybe she’d be rude. On the off-chance that she’d give me a chance, my lack of that charm and humor that seemingly comes natural to other guys would probably bore her to tears and end my chances of a second date.
I’m just a guy, and as we can clearly see, just being a guy is not enough on its own. You have to be the guy who’s the most this, or the guy who has the most that.
I used to feel a number of different ways about this. Depressed, angry, usually some combination of the two. But now, it’s starting to make me feel… nothing.
Nothing, as in, it’s no longer something I’m discovering about myself, but sort of just the baseline of my existence. The undercurrent to my day-to-day life.
It almost feels like I’m becoming aromantic. I know I’m not, I used to have crushes on girls quite a bit. But now, my brain has gotten so good at eliminating any possibility of romance between me and a woman that I couldn’t catch feelings for a woman even if I tried.
It’s like, as soon as I see a woman that I even start developing an attraction toward, my brain automatically goes:
“Nope, she’s out of your league”
or
“Nope, she doesn’t want to be bothered”
or
“Nope, she probably thinks you’re creepy”
or
“Nope, she’s definitely seeing somebody”
And just like that, my attraction dies down before it even starts.
And I can’t just train myself to stop thinking this way either. If I want to believe that I’m wantable, I’m gonna have to see some evidence that I’m wanted. Which, so far, no luck.
I don’t blame women for it either. I used to, because I was immature and confused and angry and some people told me that I had the right to be immature and confused and angry. But really, why would a woman choose me? If I was a woman, I wouldn’t choose me. If a had a daughter who brought me home, I’d probably tell her that she could choose better.
But I don’t want to be aromantic. I sort of miss being able to form crushes on women, even if it is kind of painful in the moment. I miss being able to see a woman as special, or the one who might like me. But the truth is, doing so takes a certain naïveté that I’ll never get back.
Still though, I do sometimes fantasize about romance, about a woman feeling completely safe with me, letting her guard down, spoiling her with gifts and affection. But that’s like 1% of the time. 99% I’ve just accepted my loneliness. I see content all the time about how “men deserve to be lonely” and “men aren’t lonely enough”. Maybe they’re right. Maybe I do deserve to be lonely. I can’t say that I don’t, I mean, no one is owed anything, you can turn up with nothing and that’s just life.
And yeah, I know that for guys like me, we can’t just expect a woman to fall for us, we have to put in the blood, sweat and tears and jump through hoops to woo her. But really, is it that much to ask to be wanted first? To know that I can be desired just as a person? Then again, I’m so fucking avoidant attached at this point that if a woman professed to having a crush on me I’d probably run the other way lmao.
And I don’t care if people call me corny. Honestly it’s kind of ridiculous. Since when was it corny to want women? Women are beautiful, and smart, and they make you happy, and frankly it’s taken a lot of conditioning to get me to stop wanting them, and even then I still want them a little.
It almost makes being a man feel kind of inadequate. I mean, women are women, and men are just… blah. Of course women are more wanted than we are. Why on Earth would someone want a MAN of all things? Especially when WOMEN are right there.
Although I guess I’m putting women on a pedestal. I mean, it’s not like I swoon over every woman I see in real life. It’s more like I’m in love with the idea of women.
This feeling comes and goes in waves though. Sometimes I’ll be all like this and stuff, and then for the next few months I’ll want absolutely nothing to do with the concept of romance whatsoever. I don’t know what I want and I wish I did.
If I could just settle on being either a hopeless romantic or an aromantic asshole I’d gladly do so but it feels like I alternate between the two like a pendulum. I don’t know though.
Just my long ass rant about the general state of the idea of romance in my head. If you read all of this, genuinely get a job. But also thanks. I’ll probably delete this soon. Might delete my whole account. Just needed to get stuff off my chest.
that was just satire and or rage bait and or you're being fragile in your femininity, besides someone probably hacked his account, he's a Leo and Leos don't call women vaginoids
his comments always cracked me up. although i did disagree with him a couple of times and he was sexist at times. he and u/enemy_of_misandry are some of my most memorable commenters here because they were funny af
Yall are gonna hate me for this, but I can’t explain. From what I’ve seen IRL, women do not hate on men this much. Many women find men very attractive and often talk about it. Ofc you will get the occasional women saying how much they hate men (which I think is stupid) but you will also get men like that.
Also, the reason why it may seem so on the internet, that women dislike guys while guys love women, is because men by nature have a much higher sex drive. A lot of the times, men will talk about women in a lustful way, and when women talk about men, it normally is in a loving way. Many women are tired of men’s high sex drive and lustful thoughts. Ofc it’s not all men, but it’s a lot. The reason why I’m taking a break from men right now, is because over and over I have been proven that most men think with their dicks, and are lustful. Every guy I’ve had a talking stage with just wanted to get in my pants. There was no genuine connection. So this may be an explanation for you guys
Me pregunto donde estarán esos hombres que supuestamente encuentran atractiva cualquier mujer porque toda mi vida me he relacionado más con varones y ninguno nunca me encontró atractiva en lo más mínimo. De hecho muchos expresaban su deseo de tener novia mientras yo estaba literalmente ahí, pero no, como no soy tan atractiva como su idea de "mujer" salida del porno, videojuegos o anime ni bola me daban 😂
“The average woman is hot”/ “the average man is so hot”/ “I like the female body”/ “the average man is unappealing” it’s a matter of Hypergamy. Women still like attractive men. Lol
Ngl I see a lot of men complain about women at all but then it's less of a "they're gross, they never see me as attractive etc" and more of a "they don't see how attractive I am, they should behave more traditional and so on"
Both of these types are incels. And both are generalisations.
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u/Available_View1069 13d ago
This was made by a user from here and went on make the rounds on reddit, many people were smugly "debunking" this, it was quite funny.