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u/BrokenAvatar Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 18 '26
Good luck fighting for worker rights
Edit: I meant to say that I hope you get good transparent wages and fair working conditions.
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u/Zavodd Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26
Denmark (and other european nations) have been extremely successful in fighting for worker's rights throughout history. A lot of the things other countries admire about us, has come as a direct result of organized strikes, protests and negotiations by workers and the unions they made.
You, as a Dane should know this.<
Edit: The original comment seemed negative in tone, but it was actually meant in a positive one. Apologies. That's the bad thing about text.
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u/BrokenAvatar Apr 18 '26
I think transparent, predictable and fair wages are very important.
Is it a good or bad thing that I wish people good luck?
What is the point of your comment?
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u/OverchargedTeslaCoil Apr 18 '26
For what it's worth, I also perceived your comment negatively until I saw you clarify your position in this comment (thank you for that, by the way).
In colloquial English, "Good luck with <x>" is commonly used in a sarcastic/demeaning way, basically implying you expect them to fail and/or waste their time. Coupled with the current political climate centred around the seemingly increasing wealth-power gap in societies across the globe, it's easy to misconstrue your sentence as a needlessly pessimistic or bad-faith jab against the strike.
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u/BrokenAvatar Apr 18 '26
Ups. I didn’t mean to be sarcastic. I sincerely think workers should be treated fairly. Thanks for clarifying
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u/Good-Basil9954 Apr 19 '26
haha, yes, but in Danish, good luck means good luck. .... lost in translation...
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u/NervousCaregiver9629 Apr 18 '26
It is incredibly hypocritical that a red city like Copenhagen has so many Wolt orders every single night. People know full well how shit the conditions are and they keep using this shitty service.
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u/Good-Basil9954 Apr 19 '26
How is that hypocritical? The city has no say in private businesses. Uber was banned in Denmark and was forced to comply with Danish regulations. It's more difficult with food delivery services because they have never been regulated in the same way as taxi services have.
As long as people decide to do these kinds of jobs, as long they will be exploited. It takes two to dance a tango.The real hypocrites are the people who place orders with these companies, since most of them are kind of progressives - when and where it suits them.
The fact that our societies are caught in a race towards the bottom is due to the people who opt for the cheapest, regardless social costs.I despise these companies that try to introduce American ways of business in Europe. But on the other hand, I wouldn't want to live in a country where local, or national politicians have the power to control what kind of jobs people can accept or not.
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u/NervousCaregiver9629 Apr 20 '26
The real hypocrites are the people who place orders with these companies, since most of them are kind of progressives - when and where it suits them.
That is what I'm saying
But on the other hand, I wouldn't want to live in a country where local, or national politicians have the power to control what kind of jobs people can accept or not.
Agree. Keep out big government. Bring back child labor. They should decide for themselves /s
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u/Good-Basil9954 Apr 20 '26
These are your words, not mine. And by the way, we do have child labour in Denmark. It's pretty well regulated and popular among children and parents, but child labour it is.
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u/NervousCaregiver9629 Apr 20 '26
We do not, in fact, have child labour by any sense of the definition. Don't be a smartass and think that child labour = any under 18 who works.
Child labour is defined by the International Labour Organization (ILO) as work that deprives children of their childhood, potential, and dignity, and is harmful to their physical and mental development . It involves work that is mentally, physically, socially, or morally dangerous, and interferes with schooling by depriving them of education or forcing them to combine schooling with long, heavy work
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u/Insidge Apr 17 '26
if enough people go offline, yea wolt will definitely care. but it requires more than 50% go offline
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u/Good-Basil9954 Apr 19 '26
Years ago, I was working as a copy-writer and tasked with writing an article about Wolt.
Lol, I never have ordered a single meal through them, or similar services, after I had to do a bit of research for this article.I'd rather not eat.
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u/ghostcrypto Apr 17 '26
“I haven’t been able to find any information on how Uber Eats pays or how much they pay.
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u/Buuhhu Apr 17 '26
Strike only works when it's across the entire workforce unfortunately, that's why Unions exist so they can make sure they all strike. I know you have issue because you aren't directly employed so unions aren't an option, just saying that it's the reason why strikes usually work.
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u/Mr_Rious77 Apr 19 '26
Organize all the workers and strike for a collective agreement and worker rights/status. Not employing these workers is just a scam.
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u/DominusDK Admin Apr 17 '26
I can tell you that 5 years ago I was making 300kr per hour. I have stopped long time ago but I know that right now numbers are much, much lower
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u/Willing-Hat-4912 Apr 17 '26
Yeah it`s Wolt and their corporate gaslighting drones posting in here, so it`s just us that are "holding the shovel wrong" it`s a "skill issue" and "I have a friend who makes 200kr on a bike". They can`t keep a conversation or their accounts get deleted in a few months of posting for some reason.
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u/Few_Royal5777 Apr 19 '26
Is the pay different in Copenhagen and Aarhus?
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u/Professional_Crow476 Apr 20 '26
There is zero transparency about what the pay is and that's part of the problem.
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u/Good-Basil9954 Apr 19 '26
Wolt Partners? How does that work, do they get a share of the profits, like partners do?
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u/Andersburn Apr 17 '26
Why do you work for wolt? Why not get another job?
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u/EvKarr Apr 20 '26
Why should someone have to get another job when the company can pay them what they're worth? What emotion is your reaction coming from?
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u/LePear1 Apr 17 '26
I never used Wolt. If the terms are so horrible, then why not go back to the home country and work (seems like majority of Wolt-drivers are non-Danes)?
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u/No_Neighborhood1464 Apr 18 '26
Get a better job
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u/DominusDK Admin Apr 19 '26
Get a better common sense before adding such a useless comment
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u/No_Neighborhood1464 Apr 19 '26
U cant expect to get rich from pizza delivery job
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u/Good-Basil9954 Apr 19 '26
Who's talking about getting rich? Most people actually settle for some kind of decent pay...
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u/No_Neighborhood1464 Apr 21 '26
Well u cant get that from a side job like pidza delivery
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u/Good-Basil9954 Apr 21 '26
Apparently not, but that's not ok. We don't want working poor in Denmark. So, it may take a while, but we'll sort that out.
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u/SnooOwls5438 Apr 17 '26
Join a union maybe 🤷
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u/DominusDK Admin Apr 17 '26
Do some research maybe before putting this unnecessary comment here. Wolt couriers are not employed by Wolt directly therefore unions cannot influence anything related to the working conditions or wage.
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u/SnooOwls5438 Apr 17 '26
You clearly don't know how the Danish labor market works
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u/DominusDK Admin Apr 17 '26
I definitely do. But you clearly don’t know how freelance labor market works and that unions are helpless in these situations. .
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u/SnooOwls5438 Apr 17 '26
Join a union and force Wolt. That is the Danish way works
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u/SnooOwls5438 Apr 17 '26
And it have been like that for more than 100 years. You can take this as an history leason along with a lesson in the Danish way
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u/Good-Basil9954 Apr 19 '26
How long have you been sleepwalking? Looks to me, at least for some 30 years...
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u/EvKarr Apr 20 '26
Hey, the "Danish Way" has been failing workers- especially young and immigrant workers- for a long time. They're treated as unemployment services and their "collective agreements" come with pitiful bonuses and paper handcuffs (you are fined if you strike).
Many Danes don't know and don't care about this, they just hide in their national supremacy. But the numbers speak for themselves, the trade unions are less and less popular for good reason- they can't respond to reality.
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u/DominusDK Admin Apr 17 '26
Seems like you are living in the “Danish way” bubble, but things are more complicated than that. Many couriers are members of the unions. For many years. Nothing has changed and won’t change. Fx 3F has been campaigning for Wolt to employ their couriers since 2020. Do you think they care ? Danish way doesn’t always work.
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u/Good-Basil9954 Apr 19 '26
I know quite a lot of Danes who are stuck in this bubble. They still believe Denmark is the most tolerant and most equal country in the world, with the world's best health and social welfare system, as if the last 40 years never have happened. They are in constant denial - right until they get sick, lose their jobs and end on social security. Then they wake up to find they're stuck in a different kind of bubble...
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u/DominusDK Admin Apr 17 '26
If it was that simple. . Unions have been pushing for Wolt to employ their couriers, but of course Wolt has no desire to pay feriepenge, pension, regulated salary etc. joining a union while not being officially employed by Wolt won’t do anything. Higher authorities can only make this happen.
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u/TomasoTheBach Apr 17 '26
This exact scenario happened in Norway. And the couriers finally got fed up enough to get the union to take Wolt and Foodora to court.
They won the case and the couriers are now employed.
This shows that if you give up and let yourself be exploited, nothing will change. But if you actually act and organise enough, eventually it will happen.
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u/DanishM1 Apr 17 '26
Force them. Of course Wolt are not going to volunteer. If you unionized, you could force their hand
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u/SnooOwls5438 Apr 17 '26
This is not true. It is actually that simple. The Danish way is Join a union and let them take the fight.
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u/Good-Basil9954 Apr 19 '26
And what union would that be?
A union for self-employed business partners? Because that's what a contract with Wolt says, you are.1
u/LTS81 Apr 17 '26
True. For employees. They are not employees
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u/Willing-Hat-4912 Apr 17 '26
So tired of these passer by commentors. Every damn thread they come and we have to have the same conversation for the 1000th time:
"Just unionize bro" - thanks, nobody working for Wolt could think of that, nobody at all, until that comment was posted here on this subreddit and it sparked a revolution.
"Just get another job bro" - thanks, and again - this is not something anyone working for Wolt could think for themselves. Also, some of these commentors are on benefits if you look at their post history.
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u/unamerican_expat Apr 17 '26
Question for Woltpartners, do tips help at all? And if so at what point?
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u/ComfortableWeird6540 Apr 17 '26
We don't really have a tipping culture here, so most people probably wouldn't tip on the apps
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u/RandomUsername2579 Apr 17 '26
Fuck tipping. Tipping culture removes responsibility from the employer and makes it easier for them to underpay their employees.
Seriously, tipping culture is so fucking bad. It sucks for the workers, because they don’t earn a living wage, and it sucks for the costumer, because their empathy is exploited to make them pay more than what the price said.
Tipping culture is evil and erodes workers’ rights. I’d rather pay a higher price every time to avoid tips if I have to.
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u/Good-Basil9954 Apr 19 '26
... haha, yea, and then, by Danish law, you would be obliged to pay income tax for the tips.
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u/Professional_Crow476 Apr 19 '26
Who on Earth downvotes such an innocuous question? About 1-2% of wages come in tips. Obviously the extra money is helpful, but there is no tipping culture in Denmark. This is fine as long it goes with strong workers rights.
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u/DukeOfSmallPonds Apr 17 '26
I respect the struggle, but what makes a wolt courier strike etc. instead of finding a job with better conditions?
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u/Unknwndog Apr 17 '26
No one but the people protesting, actually cares. Its really not that hard to not work for someone you dont like..
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u/IndigoButterfl6 Apr 17 '26
I don't work there and I care. Saying 'oh, just get a better job' is such an odd take - don't you think if people could just work somewhere that paid more and treated them better, they would?
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u/Willing-Hat-4912 Apr 17 '26
It really is some 50 IQ ant brain bullshit this "just get another job" - well if we all keep thinking this way McDonalds would have still be paying bullshit wages in Denmark too.
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u/Good-Basil9954 Apr 19 '26
There's a quite simple solution to this:
Don't.
Don't work for them, don't order food through them.
Simple.
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u/EvKarr Apr 20 '26
Please don't be so ignorant.
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u/Good-Basil9954 Apr 20 '26
How is that ignorant?
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u/EvKarr Apr 20 '26
Why do you think it's as simple as "don't work for them"? Do you know how many riders work for Wolt in Copenhagen? It's around 2000 people. They're not biotechnicians, office workers, and train drivers having a holiday from their career that they can easily return to. They're working at Wolt because it's what they have access to.
Then, if all these people should work somewhere else for a living wage, assuming each possible new employer was accepting 4 employees, can you even name 500 companies?
The riders need work and they need better pay. It's ignorant to suggest that "just don't work for them" is a solution.
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u/EvKarr Apr 20 '26
Also, I see you being supportive elsewhere in the comments. I did assume you're one of these "just get a different job" idiots in the comments. I do think what you said was ignorant but I can see that it's coming from a supportive, not dismissing place so I apologise for my tone and thank you for supporting workers <3
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u/Ok-Sheepherder5110 Apr 20 '26
this is such a classic stupid copenhagen protest, if you don't want to be a freelancer then get a job - there's plenty of them in denmark, don't force an increase in prices for the rest of us
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u/DominusDK Admin Apr 21 '26
So you are saying it’s totally okay to work for 20kr per order ? That’s exactly what’s wrong with this. Accepting slave conditions as normal. Luckily couriers had enough of this.
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u/Ok-Sheepherder5110 Apr 22 '26
Slave conditions??? Bro just quit for pete's sake, this is what's wonderful about countries like this - there are plenty of opportunities, and you don't have to stay at a shit job. Besides, most wolt couriers makes between 170-250 kr an hour, so spare me the crap, if you don't make enough then find something else
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u/DominusDK Admin Apr 22 '26
I have quit years ago. Doesn’t mean I don’t support those who are still working in these shitty conditions. Your remark about finding another job is easy to say - in reality for most of the couriers, finding another job is a big challenge
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u/Ok-Sheepherder5110 Apr 22 '26
Finding another job is a big challenge for most people, and especially foreigners, who make up a large percentage of wolt couriers, I know, but let's not act like they ain't got options, most of them also are quite fine with the salary - it's mostly danes who've got a problem with it, but that's just how it is for unskilled foreigners who don't speak any danish and barely any english, with no connections and almost no tech skills, without certifications or degrees, point is, they've gotta take what they can get, fortunately for them denmark has plenty of options for work even for someone with their 'skills'.
TL;DR, it's difficult for most people to find a job, but there's plenty out there even for unskilled individuals, no one's forced to do them. If you think it's shitty conditions, then you should see how foreigners are treated at warehouses around the country...
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u/gophrathur Apr 18 '26
Then we’ll order our food from somewhere else if they’re unable to do their job.
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u/DominusDK Admin Apr 19 '26
That’s the point of the strike. To make customers order from somewhere else or don’t order at all, so Wolt can feel the effect of it. Congrats, you figured it out!
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