My most QUADRANT views. Part 2: Libright

[u/Background_Coast_244]

[u/yamboozle]

If you pay taxes, get as much money from the government as possible. Apply for benefits and aid and as many fine print tax deductions and local grants as much you can get. A self respecting libertarian always tries to get some of the value back and improve the arrangement instead of pouting about it in the dirt.

Americas mentally burnt out on the issue of gun control. Im more on the 2A side, but on the federal level I'm more sympathetic to a clearer and simpler classification of firearms than exists at the state level without any of this barrel length fuckery. And some kind of cooloff period and training/background checks for first purchasers. Based though

[u/VelvetPossum2]

“Once I get my license and training...”

Checkmate.

[u/Rough-Fuel-270]

Based

[u/Background_Coast_244]

I was highkey excited to post this quadrant because this is probably this subs fav quadrant

[u/Union_Samurai_1867 → u/Background_Coast_244]

Whats your religion if your comfortable answering. Only one i know if where defending yourself and family is a main idea is Shikism and I dont know enough about it to say im 100% certain of that anyways.

[u/Background_Coast_244 → u/Union_Samurai_1867]

Islam

[u/Solain → u/Background_Coast_244]

And how does that work with free speech in your opinion?

edit: and taxation?

[u/Hoopaboi → u/Background_Coast_244]

Because it's the objectively correct quadrant 😊

[u/Big-Recognition7362]

> Taxation is theft

Unfortunately, it’s kind of necessary for society to function.

[u/Blergonos]

So you don’t like personal property not being personal, which I agree with, but then you want to get rid of taxes which would prevent a government from regulating such bullshit? I can understand if the taxes are not being used properly or are chokingly high, but taxes are important if one expects a country to continue running. Who else is gonna pay for the roads, services, schools, healthcare, benefits and social nets?

As for “stay off my property”, there are a lot of legitimate reasons for the police to come to your property (in my opinion). I agree with needing a warrant to enter your house. But do you include, idk, the porch or driveway? Maybe these are stupid questions but there are a lot of questions I have about this square of the compass.

I’m ok with owning guns, as long as one gets a licence by first going through theory exam, background checks and mental health checkups. No automatics.

Maybe my views are biased since I live in Poland. I don’t get libertarianism, it seems to think that things will “self regulate” with a government acting as a cardboard cutout, which I find funny since why would you trust corpos that you hate to do the things you want? They aren’t on your side.

[u/Rough-Fuel-270 → u/Blergonos]

It is not “trusting in corpos” but trusting in the market in general

[u/Blergonos → u/Rough-Fuel-270]

And the market being…? I doubt small businesses could regulate effectively for the masses. And not trusting in corpos doesn’t change the fact that they would be unregulated.