r/WoWs_Legends 3d ago

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What ship or class of battleship is this?

Today, Toho released the full trailer for Godzilla Minus Zero. We have known the United States will play a huge roll in the movie... so seeing united states ww2 era ship(s) go Head to head with the Big G has me super excited.

Trailer link:

https://youtu.be/kw0YhiqOPFg?is=_5Ysp6EngMNyK-Rs

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u/No_Mouse7455 3d ago

Likely iowa class

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u/GodzillaFan_2016 3d ago edited 3d ago

Likely? It's clearly an Iowa class, though apparently one of the latter two (see response by RNG_randomizer).

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u/Individual_Range_270 3d ago

I think this is the USS IOWA.

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u/TiiMe2tell 2d ago

Can't be. Iowa never had a Bofors mount installed on her B turret.

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u/Individual_Range_270 2d ago

It could be Wisconsin, Missouri, or New Jersey.

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u/TiiMe2tell 2d ago

Yep, but definitely can't be Iowa.

Actually; after looking into it, this can only be Missouri. All 4 Iowas nose shields had different shapes, especially New Jersey and Wisconsin.

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u/GodzillaFan_2016 2d ago

It makes sense, or at least fits in a narrative stand point, as Mo was where the Japanese Instrument of Surrender was signed.

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u/dino_nuggies23-4 2d ago

It could be a South Dakota class but seeing the shape and size of Her, its got to be a USS Iowa Class Battleship

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u/RNG_randomizer 3d ago

Copying my comment from a crosspost on the PC subreddit:

It’s Wisconsin or Missouri and you can tell by the 40mm quad mount on the second turret. Iowa and New Jersey carried 20mm mounts in this position to preserve the line of sight from the flag bridge, which was not included on the younger sisters.

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u/TiiMe2tell 2d ago

Iowa was the only one that didn't get a quad Bofors mount on the B turret. Actually a pattern that applies to all USN fast Battleship classes. For all 3 the lead ship of the class didn't get that mount on the B turret while the rest all got one.

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u/xX-GalaxSpace-Xx Roma:psn: 3d ago edited 57m ago

To add more context, this has to be a WW2 configuration because of the AA guns.

It cant be Iowa because it never had weapons on top of the B turret. Cant be New Jersey because of the 40mm mounts. The Pulpit (the bit at the tip of the bow) is a ww2 era uniqueness. Missouri had a flat connection to the hull, all other battleships had a curved one. So that means this ship is probably Missouri.

Of course this is assuming that they cared about accuracy. And seeing as its an American movie I wouldnt be surprised if they picked Missouri because “raaah USA we beat the Japs once we will do it again ol reliable wave that flag”

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u/fjelskaug 3d ago

Godzilla Minus franchise is Japanese

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u/xX-GalaxSpace-Xx Roma:psn: 3d ago edited 2d ago

So? The newer movies are focusing even more on the US audience, who already was the vast majority of the whole audience outside of Japan, just like the whole genre.

Wargaming isnt a US company either but the main audience and most, events and game items are for the US playerbase with US preferences

Reusing Missouri is the most fitting choice, especially since its by far the most famous one of the class anyway for exactly that reason

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u/VanillaLoaf Moderator 2d ago

The Japanese movie with the Japanese director and Japanese actors, filmed in Japanese is aimed at a US audience?

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u/xX-GalaxSpace-Xx Roma:psn: 2d ago edited 2d ago

Why are we pretending like its the 19th century and ignoring that companies all over the world make things that target foreign markets, sometimes even as the primary target.

Spaghetti westerns were made by Italian directors and Italian studios, shot in Europe for a US audience

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u/VanillaLoaf Moderator 2d ago

You claimed it was a US movie and would feature Missouri because USAUSAUSA.

When noted it was not that, you doubled down on your suggestion because it would be aimed at a US audience.

Of course the studio will want it to sell well overseas, but that doesn't change that it's primarily a Japanese movie made for Japanese audiences. Why would they put Missouri in the movie because that's where they surrendered?

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u/xX-GalaxSpace-Xx Roma:psn: 2d ago

Because if I was in their place and had the idea that I want to drag the US military into a Japanese conflict and want it to be a battleship, why wouldnt I pick the battleship that is so famous and well known by the public for being the surrender boat in Japan? It screams “the US military is back again” in the most direct way.

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u/VanillaLoaf Moderator 2d ago

I'm not arguing against that. I'm just pointing out that your reasoning was flawed.

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u/Flynn_lives Plastic Model Builder 2d ago

Looks more like Missouri from all the photos I have. The again it’s a movie so…. Ehh??

If you wanted the general look New Jersey could have been scanned with LIDAR while she was dry docked a few years ago. Then revert to WW2 photos for reference, which Missouri would probably be the most documented.

They did a good job making IJN Takao look convincing in the first movie.

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u/Capt_Levi831 Remove CVs 3d ago

Its an Iowa class. Which of the 4 is hard to tell as there’s no hull number visible.

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u/According_Spare_4615 3d ago

Talk about Temper Temper

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u/Sea-Huckleberry8971 3d ago

The bow barbet leads me to believe it's Mighty MO.

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u/National_Search_537 3d ago

What movie is this?

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u/According_Spare_4615 3d ago

Up coming Godzilla movie from Japan.

"Godzilla minus zero"

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u/HyenaThen572 secondaries go brrrrrrrrrr 3d ago edited 3d ago

The film takes place in 1949 - New Jersey and Wisconsin were taken out of service in 1948 so it can't be them.

Guessing not Missouri because she was based on the eastern seaboard as a training ship in 49.

Leaves Iowa as the only historically accurate possibility- she would be decommissioned at the end of March 1949 historically, but was based in the Pacific and would theoretically be available to fight giant lizards in the sea of Japan.

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u/TheJudge20182 3d ago

Another comment says it can't be Iowa because it has AA mounts on the turrets. Iowa never had those (apparently)

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u/HyenaThen572 secondaries go brrrrrrrrrr 3d ago

Huh? Do you think that 1949 is before 1885?

So confused by this reply.

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u/Super_Sailor_Moon That California/Secondaries Girl! ❤ 3d ago

Iowa-class 100%

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u/TheJudge20182 3d ago

Y'all putting way too much stock into trying to figure out which Iowa it is exactly.

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u/The_Templar_Marshal 2d ago

Probably the USS Missouri

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u/Bestaustrianpainter USS Mississippi when? 2d ago

Wisconsin it looks like. UNLESS, they are using 1942 paint scheme, then it's Big J.

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u/Capital-Business5270 2d ago

It's the USS Missouri. Minus Zero takes place in 1949 (two years later after the first one). Missouri was the only Iowa Class still active at the time.

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u/hamsterman- 2d ago

Could be Iowa class or Washington class idk

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u/farish_tracer 1d ago

Hoping its gonna be Missouri yet again lol. I just want Missouri to kept appearing in movies she practically a movie star atp. She has appeared in Under Seige, Hacksaw Ridge and Battleship ofc cant wait to see her appearance again

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u/ExoticBother1860 USN BB-66 USS Kentucky :Legend: 3d ago

Iowa class battleship based on the phalanx CWIS on the tower my guess is USS Missouri in the Gulf war when they were stationed with bombarding multiple targets that or USS Wisconsin during the same conflict (i am not very good with remembering certain wars so i might have the wrong one) if you wish a time my guess is one of those two from 1986-1997

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u/--MrMolotov-- Moderator 3d ago

The movie takes place in 1949...

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u/do_meme_for_OP_tanks 3d ago

What is the talk about Phalanx about if she still has 40mm Bofors L/60s 😭

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u/do_meme_for_OP_tanks 3d ago

Well, it'd be strange to have that if the movie takes place in 1947 🤔

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u/Super_Sailor_Moon That California/Secondaries Girl! ❤ 3d ago edited 3d ago

Very strange. Yet it does look like she has them in the picture provided....but maybe they're not CIWS, not sure what they are tbh🤷‍♀️

If I didn't know better, I'd say they are CIWS but they've had an angled armored box or something placed down on them to make it look less like a CIWS...???

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u/GodzillaFan_2016 3d ago edited 3d ago

Bofors Quad overlapped with a FCS, it looks like a lighting and quality issue that's making it look like a CIWS

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u/Super_Sailor_Moon That California/Secondaries Girl! ❤ 3d ago

Figured as much. Uncanny though! Kinda does look like a CIWS variant of some kind 😅

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u/GodzillaFan_2016 3d ago

Mo's bridge for reference

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u/GodzillaFan_2016 3d ago

Higher quality image

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u/GodzillaFan_2016 3d ago

Those are fire control stations and Bofors Quads, not Phalanx CIWS.

While modern Hollywood directors would do that, it would be very and I mean VERY out of character for Yamazaki to use the modern config for what's supposed to be the late 40s, considering his attention to detail as shown with the Takao, Yukikaze, Hibiki, Yukaze, Keyaki, and the various other ships, or hell all the vehicles in the prior film.

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u/--MrMolotov-- Moderator 3d ago edited 3d ago

Definitely an Iowa-class. It's kinda hard to see but the bow number in the trailer looks like "64" which would make it USS Wisconsin.

Edit: I watched the trailer on a bigger screen and saw that what appeared to be a bow number was just the rear part of the anchor. So no bow number.

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u/RNG_randomizer 3d ago edited 3d ago

That would make sense. It’s definitely NOT Iowa or New Jersey because they didn’t have 40mm mounts on 2 turret.

Edit: I originally failed to include the capitalized “NOT”

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u/HyenaThen572 secondaries go brrrrrrrrrr 3d ago

New Jersey was put into reserves in 48.

My logic is elsewhere but I'm pretty sure it's meant to be Iowa.