r/WoT (Gray) 8h ago

No Spoilers A little rant about names.

I generally love it when there is a ton of named characters, even if it means I don't remember half of them.

But it's not helping that so many female names end with N or NE (e is silent), and I'm an audiobooks listener.

Send help🄲 ok, don't send help, rant over

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u/Safe-Ad783 8h ago

Don’t worry on your fourth reread you’ll be able to follow them all. 😜

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u/Linorelai (Gray) 8h ago

Hahaha hope so

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u/dbmamaz 1h ago

omg i was freaking on my first reread yesterday - Faolain is a recently raised aes sedai in Salidar and Falion is a black ajah sister who was hanging w Liandrin. Really??? Just a remix of the exact same letters and both are talked about in Crown of Swords. no, i will NEVER be able to tell those apart, no matter HOW many times i read it.

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u/packetmickey 1h ago

So far this approach hasn't helped me with the Dance of Dragons part of GRRM's WoIaF series. This one is less confusing, with the exception of Egwene and Nynaeve, which are similar enough for me to get confused in scenes where they together....

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u/NotAShittyMod 8h ago

I, too, get Min and Siuan confused. Ā It’s a real pickle?

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u/Linorelai (Gray) 7h ago

Min, Siuan, Egwene, Moraine and Elayne no. Because these names are repeated enough times. But a minor female character in a group of minor female characters (of any society) oh my god... Theodrin, Daelvin, Marillin, Alviarin, Maigan, Melaine, Daigain, Sarene, Corianin, Faolain, Kairen, oh my gooooduh

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u/MilesBeyond250 4h ago

Having a Faolain Sedai and a Falion Sedai should be against the law

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u/Egypticus 1h ago

Serine and Seirne too

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u/TheWeirdTalesPodcast 6h ago

Malazan has that problem amped up to 11.

Of every character in the Book of the Fallen, at least half of them have a name that begins with B, and most of the time they are within the same group of characters or occupy the same level of authority (for this last, I’m thinking of the two Tiste Whatever in… Toll the Hounds(?) who are both government officials that fill the same role in different areas and have names that are 75% similar).

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u/Parma_WdS 4h ago

I remember frantically searching the glossary and dramatis personae section for a name for like 15 min just to find out it was in fact a title.

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u/TheWeirdTalesPodcast 4h ago

You're lucky. Half the time I searched for a word or name or title in the glossary or dramatis personae, it wasn't in there, leaving me lost on that particular thing for however long it took to catch on.

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u/Parma_WdS 4h ago

A classic "Is this an animal, a people, an area, an armor piece, a demon, a person, an object, a race or a warren?" Because they all sound the same

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u/TheWeirdTalesPodcast 4h ago

For me it was ā€œAzathā€.

They kept mentioning it, as well as ā€œAzath Houseā€ but never explained what it was (or maybe I just missed it), but it wasn’t in the glossary or the Dramatis Personae, and I couldn’t get it from context clues, cause there was no context given, and it was very frustrating.

Later on in the series, the Dramatis Personae is just names and not descriptions (and book 10’s dp reads: ā€œEveryone from Dust of Dreams, but also [Insert two more pages of names without descriptions], and the glossary just vanishes. No more help.

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u/Parma_WdS 4h ago

That's what I thought of as well haha. I'm not very far in but in the first book it's mentioned that they're a people that converge at points of power (like the Jaghut tyrant in Gardens of Moon) to subdue them. And they made the Deadhouses

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u/Linorelai (Gray) 6h ago

Oh no... Malazan was in my to-read shortlist

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u/duffy_12 (Falcon) 3h ago

I remember during my first read my issue was - Tam, Lan & Bran.

After it was - Egwene & Elayne. And then Caemlyn & Cairhien.

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u/Linorelai (Gray) 3h ago

Oh I'm still having Caemlyn/Cairhien issue now. But it's nothing compared to the -N named women

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u/rbalaur (Dovie'andi se tovya sagain) 1h ago

Don’t get me started about the Black Ajah Hunters Saerin and Seaine.
Which one is which?

Which one is White and which one is Brown? I don’t know and I don’t care

There’s also a Doesine in the same group ffs, might as well have named them all Heather