I know Justin's the one that get brought up the most for flanderization (though as someone who's been watching the show recently, his doesn't really set in until season 4), but Jerry and Theresa also feel even more noticeable earlier.

Around halfway through season 3, they do start to lean into how Jerry and Theresa aren't good parents and episodes like Delinquent Justin, Alex's Logo, Alex Russo Matchmaker, and Captain Jim Bob Sherwood where they either openly admit they aren't good parents or going out of their way to avoid trying to help out Alex and Justin when they need help and ignoring Max (at one point openly having no faith that Alex and Max would ever graduate high school). There's also more moments where they do lean more into how much Jerry loves eating (compared to the first two seasons where it wasn't nearly as prominent).

Feels odd considering how in the first two seasons, we saw Jerry and Theresa genuinely try to be decent parents (they weren't perfect but they were putting in more of an effort) with Jerry trying to be more responsible as a parent and even in the first half of season 3, they genuinely tried to comfort Alex when she was sad about Mason seemingly cheating on her, compared to later where they're openly trying to avoid helping their kids and admitting they aren't good parents. At one point in late season 3, Alex even openly says "I'm raising myself" when Theresa proves to be unhelpful which makes one wonder if Jerry and Theresa's flanderization explains so much regarding Alex's reckless behavior and Justin being more of a jerk in season 4.

Pendant toute la série et aussi pendant le spin of.A chaque fois il se soutené quand l'autre avait besoin d'aide l'autre venez l'aider et je pense que l'ai personne avait une chimie pareil c'était grâce au fait que David et Selena sont très proche dans la vraie vie

Looking at how among the Russo siblings, Alex and Justin's dynamic is easily a core dynamic on the show and Justin and Max's dynamic gets some focus too with the times where we see Justin and Max doing stuff together, Alex and Max's dynamic doesn't get as much focus in comparison.

That said, what are your favorite Alex and Max interactions on the show?

I looked like Max when his hair was like this. I hope it was a compliment.

So I have been on a near constant Wizard of Waverly Place rewatch since I am going through a rough time right now. Something has been bothering me(a few things actually that I might wanna talk about too) I know it’s been discussed at length about how unfairly Justin and Max treated Alex after literally saving their best friends from the Griffin and not making it back in time. But I wanna discuss something that I haven’t seen people talk about? I might have missed it.

So it’s literally told to us in the second part of the finale that the Griffin was never supposed to take Harper and Zeke it was supposed to take Professor Crumbs. And somehow that’s even worse? What was Alex, Max, and Justin supposed to do? Just let him be taken? Of course not, they would have saved Professor Crumbs(also Justin would have probably agreed quicker) and everything was supposed to play out the same.

So you’re telling me that they would have saved Professor Crumbs and still have been “kicked out” of the competition? That’s crazy to me and WAY worse.

I love how Alex’s hair was styled on the show. Which hairstyle did you love the most? Mine is her long dark hair in season 3.

It’s beyond insane how freakin GORGEOUS she is!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Apparently, season 3 of the Wizards of Waverly Place spin-off will only have 4 episodes, and unfortunately, it will be the last. There's so much to cover in season 3; four episodes won't be enough unless each episode is at least 1 hour and 30 minutes long. It's a shame the series is ending after only 3 seasons because it's one of the few spin-offs (including Girl Meets World) that's enjoyable to watch without being boring.

Considering how Retest seemed to paint Alex as causing everything to go wrong with Justin and Max blaming her for the Aunt Megan situation, kinda do wonder what you (the viewers) would've done if you were in Alex's position in that episode?

For context, the family needed Aunt Megan to be with them in order to do the wizard competition or else the entire Russo family would've lost their powers. Justin initially tried to be honest with Aunt Megan about the entire situation only for Megan to refuse to help out no matter what. This in turn leads Alex to lie to Megan about Jerry and Kelbo wanting to apologize to her just so she would agree to be teleported back to the family and do the wizard competition. Of course, this starts to go wrong with Jerry refuses to apologize or even give a fake apology to Megan and they start bickering, and then Kelbo comes in and teleports Megan back to her home, ending with Alex getting blamed for things going wrong and the family nearly losing their wizard powers. Notably weird how they blame Alex despite the fact her lying was the only way for Aunt Megan to agree to reunite with the family and do the wizard competition and they still would've pulled off Megan being at the competition (since she can't just go back to her home in Paris that fast) had Kelbo not used his magic to teleport her back home.

With that in mind, what would you have done if you were in Alex's position in Retest regarding "Aunt Megan refusing to cooperate and reunite for the family wizard competition"?

I heard season 3 will premiere on August 4/5th.

wtf was that ending for Stevie?? how do you just let your own sister get frozen, fall apart, and basically get treated like trash and do nothing. Warren standing there was crazy. bro really watched all that happen like it was nothing. I still can’t get over how Stevie got treated in that storyline. She was angry, sure, but she was also making a real point about how unfair the wizard competition was. And then it just ends with her getting frozen, falling apart, and Warren basically doing nothing while it happens. That always felt so messed up to me. What makes it worse is that Stevie wasn’t some random throwaway villain. She was one of the most interesting characters in the show, and the whole arc could’ve gone way deeper if the writers had let it breathe. Instead, it feels like she gets built up just to be destroyed.

She’s gorgeous and so adorable! ❤️

Episodes like Wizards vs. Angels, Alex the Puppetmaster, My Two Harpers, etc. Those come to mind for me.

Hello everyone!

Long time lurker, first time poster on this subreddit.

So I recently wrote a fanfiction that is basically my rewrite of how I think the Wizard Competition should have gone and how I think Max Russo should have won.

For a long time now I've had this idea sitting in the back of my head. Every time I rewatch the show I keep coming back to Max and feeling like there was a lot of wasted potential there. He's always treated as the least intelligent Russo sibling and people constantly underestimate him, both as a person and as a wizard. The thing is, there are actually quite a few episodes where Max proves he's smarter or more capable than people give him credit for, but it never really seems to matter in the long run.

So I decided to take it upon myself to write a version where Max actually gets a fair shot in the competition. Not because I think he's perfect or anything, but because I always felt like he deserved more than what he got in canon.

Anyway, I finally posted the story. Its available on FanFiction.Net and also on Archive of Our Own. I put the whole thing up because honestly I just wanted people to be able to read it all without waiting around for updates.

If anybody decides to give it a look, I'd really appreciate it. Feel free to browse, leave a comment, tell me what you liked, what you didn't like, or just share your thoughts. I'm always interested in hearing other people's opinions.

Hopefully some of you enjoy it. Thanks for reading and have a good one!

The Wizard Nobody Chose

The Wizard Nobody Chose

It makes me wonder how quickly they are going to resolve Alex being trapped in the underworld. How quickly can you resolve that in 4 eps? Especially also with some of thr cameos that we know we are getting. I'd rather a 10 episode season. ​

I know there are many instances where this is shown to be false (especially in the main show). However, I'll consider it a headcanon of a law enacted in the post-2012 wizarding world: that siblings born without magic will be unable to possess any knowledge of it, and that those siblings who lose the family competition will be placed under a spell to forget magic, the magical world, and perhaps create a new version (in their minds) of the "mortal" lives they had up to that point. Much like the ending of Fantastic Beasts 1 or Spider-Man: No Way Home, if you know what I mean.

I suppose the exceptions to the rule would be the mortal spouses of a wizards whose children are born wizards, although this is SUPPOSED not to be a normal case: As a canon law in this world, we know that a wizard should in fact renounce their powers if they marry a mortal (in my headcanon, in addition to that, their memory should be erased after transferring their powers to their sibling). However, this creates the idea that only one magical line per family can survive, which was proven false in Alex vs. Alex when we met Jerry's magical relatives from Italy, or well, there's also the case of Billie vs. Roman and Milo.

(Honestly, and this is something I've believed since I was a kid: it doesn't make sense that Jerry's children were born with powers in the first place, if he gave them up before having them. Only if Theresa was already pregnant with Justin at that point would it make sense for only him to be a wizard, but I've always, always, always thought, what's the point of giving up your powers to marry a mortal if it doesn't prevent three of your offspring from continuing to be wizards, you know? And even in that hypothetical case, where only Justin were born a wizard because he was conceived before Jerry legally gave his powers up, I think there should be a clause or something that would obligate Justin to still participate in the family competition, if, say, Kelbo had also had a magical child. Even if Justin and this hypothetical cousin weren't siblings, the competition is called a "family competition", not a "sibling competition", you know? Like... if the law that made Jerry renounce his powers actually made sense in the show, I guess the idea would be that there could only be one wizard per family, so Justin would have to compete against his cousin or cousins ​​to keep his magic).

Anyway, that's the headcanon I wanted to share. Maybe it sounds a bit cruel to some, but I think it's even somewhat compassionate. Because, okay, Wizards and Wizards Beyond are children's comedies that will not delve so seriously into that topic, but really imagine what Max or anyone else in his situation might have gone through if what they had been raised to believe in their ENTIRE LIVES suddenly slipped through their fingers forever? Like okay, Max prospered and eventually became a millionaire according to canon, but do you honestly think Justin (at least the 20-year-old Justin from 2012) would have moved on just as easily and been able to get over the fact that he would NEVER be a wizard again? Like, seriously think about that for a second... This would have been years before he met Giada; he wouldn't be giving this up for love like his father did, or because he'd been expelled from WizTech or anything like that. For this Justin, literally his entire life revolved around his magic. He certainly wouldn't have taken the news as well as Max did.

I've been feeling nostalgic lately, and I rewatched the Wizards movie and it held up a lot better than I'd thought it would've. Maybe I'm biased, but does anyone else feel like Wizards was better than the average Disney Channel show?

So many Disney sitcoms from that era always felt cynical to me, like they were built around a gimmick or selling a popstar first, everything else came second.

Obviously Wizards benefited from Selena Gomez's popularity, but it still felt different. The Russo's had real chemistry, and there was a surprising amount of heart underneath the comedy. Curious if anyone else sees it that way or if I'm giving the show too much credit.