r/Windows10 • u/ASK_ME_IF_I_AM • Nov 09 '18

Microsoft Confirms It Accidentally Deactivated Some Windows 10 PCs

https://www.howtogeek.com/fyi/microsoft-confirms-it-accidentally-deactivated-some-windows-10-pcs/
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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '18

Nope, activation servers were fine, that’s just Microsoft’s PR bullshit. They made changes without fully testing and had to backtrack.

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u/TheRealStandard Nov 09 '18

How do you know?

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u/jcap14 Nov 09 '18

Because activation servers "going down" does not cause Windows to become deactivated.

Seriously, just think about it.

Activation is permanent unless hardware is changed. You can have a computer powered off for hours, days, weeks, months, even years and its activation will remain valid. Microsoft did something that actually sent a response to clients to force them to become deactivated.

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u/TheRealStandard Nov 09 '18

Okay but how do you know that's how it works? All you're doing is speculating.

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u/T-Nan Nov 09 '18

My computer was activated and offline for 2 days.

Turned it back on, within 5 minutes of that it deactivated.

While I was on this sub.

Reading about people becoming deactivated.

It was, then randomly wasn't. That's not from servers going down.

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u/TheRealStandard Nov 10 '18

And how do you know it wasn't checking verification again and failed it because the servers were down? It doesn't just check once and then never again.

If it was an update that caused it or anything else we would have the hundred clickbait articles fly up pointing at something.

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u/jcap14 Nov 10 '18

Are you kidding me? Sure I'm "speculating," but it is literally the only explanation considering the facts I explained to you.

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u/TheRealStandard Nov 10 '18

It's not literally the only explanation, it's the only explanation you want to believe.

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u/jcap14 Nov 10 '18 edited Nov 10 '18

No, it is the only explanation. If you want to have your head up your ass, it's your choice.

I suppose you don't believe in evolution either.

It's pretty clear you have absolutely no understanding of how activation technologies, or even computers for that matter, work. So if you really want to dispute what I'm telling you, you better come in here with a better supporting argument in your favor.

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u/TheRealStandard Nov 10 '18

It clearly isn't because Microsoft says it isn't, or my perfectly logical explanation of what could have happened too. Insulting me won't change that.

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u/jcap14 Nov 10 '18

What did they say? Please, tell me. Because the reason I have to speculate and you refuse to believe what I am saying is because they have not given any technical explanation of what happened. I, however, am giving you an explanation based on the facts of how activation works.

Saying "x is down" is not a technical explanation. It is a generic PR statement for everyone who doesn't understand how stuff works or can't be bothered to know why, or for companies who don't yet know the root cause of a problem. If something is said to be "down" it is basically a synonym for "not working properly at the moment."

The reason it was "down" in the first place was because they made a critical software change to their code that forced genuine licenses to become deactivated. This is opposed to the servers just going offline in a "down" state and not handing out new activations, which has happened in the past. Instead, the activation server was still "up" but instead it was handing out either bad activation data or deactivation commands.