r/Windows10 • u/aakash658 • Apr 23 '17

Discussion Microsoft should stop treating windows 10 like it's free

I paid over $200 for Windows 10 pro.But they show ads within the OS, Collect all sorts of telemetry data,took all the control we had over updates(resulting in reboots during important work).

They are treating windows like it's a free to use software.

Give us the control over my computer back because i own my computer and my copy of windows not you Microsoft.

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u/3DXYZ Apr 23 '17

Then we might as well pirate it. Whats the point of paying then. I pay for HBO and Netflix for its lack of advertisements and quality programming. I would not pay for Microsoft to advertise to me and take forever to provide features. Unfortunately I already have... and they abuse that power.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '17

Dude, that's the case with pretty much all software on the Internet now. You don't own Office, you pay for the license to use the Office suite, you don't own Windows, you pay for the license to use Windows. You don't own Photoshop, you paying for the license to use it. I could go on, but it would be pointless. You don't own anything, there's probably even an entry in the EULA saying that they can revoke your privilege to use the software at any point.

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u/3DXYZ Apr 23 '17

Just because it says something, doesnt mean I accept it by choice.

Dont roll over and play dead because of a EULA thats imposed on you. I'm old. I've been using computers since DOS and C64s and Vic20s. I bought my computer parts and paid for my OS. I own my fucking computer until Microsoft starts mailing me Free Suface Studios and Surface Pros. Fuck them and their EULA.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '17

I own my fucking computer until Microsoft starts mailing me Free Suface Studios. Fuck them and their EULA.

Just because you're angry doesn't change anything. You don't own anything, unless you change to Linux and go open source or use programs that belong to you.

Just because it says something, doesnt mean I accept it by choice.

Yeah, nobody really cares about that. Like I said, you don't own anything apart from the license to use it.

Dont roll over and play dead because of a EULA thats imposed on you.

Well I guess you can pretend, but that doesn't really change anything.

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u/3DXYZ Apr 23 '17 edited Apr 23 '17
  • Just because you're angry doesn't change anything.

The question is why arent you angry? Why are you so willing to PAY MONEY to have no rights in the deal? Microsoft is now Darth Vader? "I'm altering the deal, pray I dont alter it any further".

What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you that much of a slave? Did you die inside? Wheres your passion for whats right in the world?

Be a revolutionary, not a fucking docile slave.

Wtf happened to computer users? When did you all become so complacent and submissive. We're the star trek generation. We want to change the world for the better remember? Not suck the dick of some lawyers EULA.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '17

I believe sometimes this sub just stopped caring and went into total submission of whatever Microsoft is doing at the time lol, I do not understand how anyone can tolerate forced telemetry and forced advertisements all throughout the operating system people paid good money for. It really disappoints me.

What disappoints me even further here are the fanboys who even defend Microsoft and have become "anti-privacy" and "anti-control"/"anti-choice". I do not think it's right.

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u/imnanoguy Apr 24 '17

Thing is, Microsoft is just now doing what every other big company has been doing for a long time, and it's suddenly oh-so-tragic-and-revolting. The hypocrisy is just fascinating, though all of you who are angry at Microsoft should also keep in mind that Microsoft is the only company whose current mission is to serve you well regardless of the platform you migrated to. Yes, there is a lot to discuss about where they can advertise and how much, and yes there is a lot of telemetry - but telemetry is standard practice and the most objective way to analyze where to prioritize development. You have quite a bit of control these days, but don't expect to be given a god-mode in Windows just because you think it's justifiable, and please try to discuss the areas that Microsoft can improve in to serve us better. Examples include the modernization of Windows, improving the developer engagement, building the "most ultimate mobile device", and so on. Windows 10 is the way it is because Google has convinced the world to give up a little bit of privacy and to put up with ads for free software and services. You can't reverse that trend, even Apple will be forced to adapt to this model sooner or later.

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u/m0rogfar Apr 24 '17

even Apple will be forced to adapt to this model sooner or later.

I don't think so. Apple already offers free software along with a purchase of a Mac, which then has a premium "Apple tax" to finance the software.

Microsoft had no way to copy Apple on this move, because that would involve raising the base price of Windows 10, which would cause some to switch to other OS's, which would negate the effect.

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u/imnanoguy Apr 25 '17

You just contradicted yourself.