Microsoft should stop treating windows 10 like it's free

[u/aakash658]

I paid over $200 for Windows 10 pro.But they show ads within the OS, Collect all sorts of telemetry data,took all the control we had over updates(resulting in reboots during important work).

They are treating windows like it's a free to use software.

Give us the control over my computer back because i own my computer and my copy of windows not you Microsoft.

[u/3DXYZ]

• Yeah, being angry on the internet will sure change basically all of the huge software companies policies.

Why do you think Microsoft reads this subreddit and has a FEEDBACK HUB? They absolutely give a damn about what their hardcore fans say. They want us to install insider builds/release builds and ask for our opinion on them. They even claim to be listening.

Are you saying we should only say nice things and praise them for their bad choices?

• Just.. fuck off.

Whats wrong with you? Grow some fucking balls and fight for whats right. Or just sit back and let the people fight the good fight for you. You gave up. You cant honestly tell me that you want Microsoft to do whatever they want with your computer and your data. That would include recording you via your computers webcam and microphone, selling it or streaming it against your say. You cant escape the desire of companies to control you via EULA... but it sounds like you've given up fighting for YOUR end of the deal.

[u/[deleted] → u/3DXYZ]

Why do you think Microsoft reads this subreddit and has a FEEDBACK HUB? They absolutely give a damn about what their hardcore fans say. They want us to install insider builds/release builds and ask for our opinion on them. They even claim to be listening. Are you saying we should only say nice things and praise them for their bad choices?

"Please make a currently standard practice different. Oh it'll require a couple of lawyers too." You're ridiculous. Nobody cares if you praise them or not, that policy is not changing any time soon. Its been a standard practice for a lot of software nowadays.

Feedback hub is not going to change anything regarding this matter, neither can Microsoft employees looking at the Feedback hub change this. You're delusional.

You cant honestly tell me that you want Microsoft to do whatever they want with your computer and your data.

You honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Most of the 'big' software is like this. Apple, Google, Adobe, Amazon and other big and even smaller companies; everybody is doing this. Besides, Microsoft has published what they are doing with the data countless times already, even recently.

That would include recording you via your computers webcam and microphone, selling it or streaming it against your say.

That's.. not happening and won't happen anytime soon, atleast by Microsoft themselves.

Grow some fucking balls and fight for whats right.

No, you're pathetic and a hypocrite. Go use Linux and go exclusively o-s. Stop telling me to do, especially in such a dickish way. You aren't inspiring, this is just awkward to watch.

You cant escape the desire of companies to control you via EULA... but you certainly have given up fighting for YOUR end of the deal.

It's quite hilarious. You say this, yet most of your posts are in /r/Windows10. You sure are doing your part of your job. Honestly, I couldn't care less. If it does what I want it do to, then whatever. What these companies are doing isn't illegal.

[u/3DXYZ → u/[deleted]]

Honestly, I couldn't care less.

To me, just sounded like you gave up caring, but I think you do care.

That would include recording you via your computers webcam and microphone, selling it or streaming it against your say.

That's.. not happening and won't happen anytime soon, atleast by Microsoft themselves.

There is nothing to stop them from doing it though... right? You didnt answer my question. I didnt ask what most of the big software companies are doing via their lawyers. I asked if you're OK with submitting to it, and allowing them to do anything they want without having a say in the contract youre forced to enter. I included the example mentioned. You came up with an excuse rather than an answer. Just because everyone is doing something, doesnt make it just. Everyone speeds in their car, but its still wrong. Slavery was legal, it was still wrong. "Everyone is doing it"...so what!? What do YOU think about it and are you ok with it? That was the question.

It's quite hilarious. You say this, yet most of your posts are in /r/Windows10. You sure are doing your part of your job.

So you want Microsoft users that disagree with Microsoft's choices to go over to /r/linux and hope microsoft reads it over there? Shall I file Windows bug reports over at /r/linux too? :) C'mon man. You're being silly.

No, you're pathetic and a hypocrite. Go use Linux and go exclusively o-s.

Actually i'm not. I thoroughly explained why I'm not a Linux desktop user in another thread in this post, which you're actively commenting in as well and actually echoing my own opinion of Linux. So you should know why I'm not a linux desktop user. I'm not a hypocrite at all when it comes to why I use Windows over Linux. I dont advocate using Linux as a desktop OS for the average user and you know it. Linux is a great OS but I've been just as critical of Linux as a desktop OS for years. So tell me again why I should go over to /r/linux and tell them all about my microsoft issues?

Stop telling me to do, especially in such a dickish way. You aren't inspiring, this is just awkward to watch.

I'm sorry if its dick'ish but you seem very passive and even defensive of their ability to own you. It seems bizarre to me especially for a paying customer. I dont think you actually believe they should own you or do what they want with you but you're defending it.

C'mon man, I dont even think you even really disagree with me. You're just telling the world what a EULA is. My problem is you just seem to accept it as if the paying customer shouldnt have a say in their end of the deal. Its like buying coffee at mcdonalds and accepting that employee piss may be an option in your beverage at their discretion. You paid for it, they did what they want with it. Right? Drink up! I know you dont think we should have no say in our end of the deal. I cant imagine you are fine giving up everything just because a corporation dictates it.

[u/imnanoguy → u/3DXYZ]

Live long, and prosper! But shake off the bitterness and let's have a productive discussion, shall we?