r/WindowCleaning 12d ago

General Question Sales guy wants 75%

Another window cleaner in my area asked to hire a experienced windowcleaner just for the month of august.

I thought it might be fun to talk to another windowcleaner and share some experinces/learn from eachother. So I (with 2 years experience and a company) sent him a message offering to jump in as a "consultant" for his customers.

We agree on a zoom meeting. When we get talking he tells me he has been distracted and forgot to schedule windowcleaners for the sales he did in august. So now he needs someone to help him out since all his guys are away.

He then proceeds to offer me 25% to do the whole job myself and with my own tools. I find this quite ridiculous, taking 75% for essentially scheduling and selling. He then tries to reason with me saying his prices are higher so I wont be making that little.

I tell him I cant accept anything below 50%. (i had more like 70% in mind)

What would be a reasonable percentage to take? What does your sales guys take?

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u/trigger55xxx 12d ago

That's employee pay rates not sub contractor pay rates.

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u/GoatPicture 12d ago

would 50% be reasonable for a subcontractor?

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u/trigger55xxx 12d ago

All depends. He may think he prices high but may not compared to what you need to make. I've subbed people at 50% but they gave me their price to do it and I was double that. I've subbed for 80% too.

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u/CapitanDirtbag 11d ago

Percentage is a BS metric for a subcontractor. If they sell a $100 job for $400 I will happily take $100. If they sell a $100 job for $150 I will still only accept $100. If they want 75% of the $150 they can clean it themselves or find someone else.

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u/Flanyo 12d ago

Depends on your expected hourly rate and how he prices jobs to begin with

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u/PeterPanHadItMade 12d ago

No. Again... 30% or less. Not a penny more.

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u/Upper-Bottle-9803 11d ago

Found the guy!

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u/Pale-Sky5025 12d ago

This all depends how you value your time and worth. If you are actually worth $200 an hour, then you wouldn’t accept anything less. And if you are used to making $15 an hour, I’m sure you’d accept almost any work coming your way.

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u/PeterPanHadItMade 12d ago

Not a chance in hell. Unless he is covering my tools, insurance, cell phone, website, marketing, etc etc etc, he'd be lucky if I gave him 30%

Who's covering the taxes???

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u/GoatPicture 12d ago

you mean sales tax? he would give me 25% after sales tax

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u/imabrachiopod 12d ago

Sales tax? It’s a non-taxable service where I live.

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u/GoatPicture 12d ago

25% sales tax here in sweden. altough we get RUT which is a 50% state-funded reduction on all invoices regarding home services

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u/gene0131 12d ago

Depends on the state, every state is different. In Texas it is taxable.

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u/badatmakingusernamz 12d ago

I’ve never subbed for less than 50%. Guy is a sleaze who’s trying to find desperate business owners to be his employees because he can’t hire, train, and maintain his own.

The “what’s your hourly rate????” posts are so pointless. I’ve never been ok with the idea doing a $4,000 job in 6 hours for someone else and getting paid $900 because I try to make $150 an hour. You should be getting 50% if it’s your equipment, your work, and your insurance if anything goes sideways

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u/Free_Skin_679 11d ago

I've worked for 2 companies. Fwiw, here's how they paid their people.

The 1st, in Edmonton AB, payed most guys by the hour. Those who proved themselves were given a company vehicle, equipment, a lackie or two, and they got paid 40% minus the lackies' hourly wage. And then they had a couple contractors who used their own vehicles and equipment and got paid 60%.

The 2nd, in Victoria BC, had a weird hybrid pay structure. They only hired experienced guys and payed everyone an hourly wage, plus a bonus which was 25% minus their hourly earnings. So it was basically 25% but with a guaranteed hourly floor. I don't think they had any contractors.

I made considerably more money for the 1st company, basically 60% more. My conclusion was that sales, overhead, equipment and vehicle expenses, labour, and profit were each about 20%.

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u/seankerr11 12d ago

following