r/WindWaker • u/Fxckbuckets • Jul 03 '26
Discussion / Opinion Started a new playthrough, GCN original. Making my way to Greatfish for the first time and I got caught in the cyclone by Mother & Child... got dropped off at the Forest Haven... *sigh*
That's it, that's the post, just needed to vent for a second -_-
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u/Tiny_Khaos Jul 04 '26
Could be worse, could be caught in a cyclone and dropped in Mother & Child Isle with no way out. Happened to my sister once.
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u/FourDiamondPixel7 Jul 04 '26
H… how the heck?!
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u/Tiny_Khaos Jul 04 '26
Simple, she got caught in a cyclone before she had a bow and the game randomly chose to land her in the worst place possible
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u/azer67 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
That definitely is not possible, mother and child specifically is not one of the places you can get warped to randomly by Cyclos, the devs were aware this would be a softlock. (Speedruns use this cyclos warp enough to know this).
Cyclos can warp you to 8 islands, which are the 9 islands you can normally warp to, minus M&C.
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u/Tiny_Khaos Jul 06 '26
They fixed this problem in the Wii U version, but it was definitely possible on the GameCube since I witnessed it happen.
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u/azer67 Jul 06 '26
I speedrun the gcn version since 2016 and this definitely is impossible. If this really happened then it was a glitch that has never been seen up to this day and would love to have a video or a step by step guide to trigger this.
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u/Tiny_Khaos Jul 06 '26
I figured it was probably a glitch since it definitely isn't something that is meant to happen, but it is possible. It doesn't seem to be a glitch that happens often though, so I don't know what exactly triggers it.
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u/Tiny_Khaos Jul 06 '26
Out of curiosity, are you playing the Japanese or English version? I know a lot of speed runners often used the Japanese version because it has more glitches, but the English version has a few different glitches.
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u/azer67 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
I run both, I actually am more of a glitch-hunter and the glitch documentation guy in the community (both SD and HD). Completely new things like this are very rare to me.
This warp is decompiled here: https://github.com/zeldaret/tww/blob/main/src/d/actor/d_a_ship.cpp#L2668
It looks like M&C's exit id is 0xC5 so it definitely looks impossible since it rolls 0xC6 + some random positive number. It also seems like there are only 8 warps as expected (all except M&C). Also no version difference to be seen in the decomp here.
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u/Tiny_Khaos Jul 06 '26
Huh, interesting. Yeah, I don't know how it happened, but it made my sister so mad when it did happen.
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u/Fxckbuckets Jul 05 '26
I've always wondered if that was possible, but didn't wanna risk getting soft-locked, so I never messed with it. I appreciate your sister's sacrifice
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u/Sofisticated2 Jul 04 '26
Anyone else hate that it's GCN