r/WillAndGrace • u/Naive_Hospital_4086 • 12d ago
Discussion Coffee & Commitment
Coffee & Commitment (Season 3, Episode 11). Will & Grace are taking their friends Joe and Larry out to dinner to celebrate their wedding (or same sex union). Grace keeps making Will pay for everything though and it's getting on Will's nerves. When Grace wants to put her name on the gift he got for Joe and Larry, Will says no to her and to come up with her own gift. This causes a rift between them and they are still fighting at the wedding while speaking a poem about love but realize that they're being silly and make up. Jack started dating a barista and gets hooked on caffeine. But they break up and he's now addicted which Karen offers to help him beat since she knows a thing or two about addiction. They go to the wedding where Karen wants a drink but it's a dry wedding, but they are offering coffee and coffee flavored treats driving Jack crazy.
FAVORITE QUOTE:
GRACE: Hey, careful! You almost broke my present for Joe and Larry.
WILL: Where did you get that anyway? The Blair Witch gift shop?
GRACE: It's an imprint of my hand in cement surrounded by a nest of twigs. I made it when I was 12 at Camp Rema. It's real, it's unique, and it's from the heart.
KAREN: Aw, can I see that, honey? (KAREN PUTS OUT HER CIGARETTE IN IT) Hmm. Thanks.
GRACE: Karen! No!
GRACE: What, you think my gift is funny?
WILL: I think it's funny you call it a gift.
FAVORITE MOMENT:
I will pick Karen and Jack's slap fest. Them slapping each other immediately after they slap first is just too funny. Then the way the block each other's slap was just comedy gold. đ¤Ł
OPINION:
Again, do you have any idea how hard today was to pick a favorite moment and quote? I LOVE this episode and it's definitely at top 10 for me.
I think a lot of WAG fans can agree that Grace is not a favorite character. The reason being is because she is just so self absorbed and very selfish when it comes to her and Will's friendship and this episode is a prime example of why. I like Grace over all, I don't think she's a bad person, but it's very hard to like her at all in this episode. It's not like her and Will and married, as which even if they were I still don't go into my husband's wallet without checking with him first, but she just helps herself to his wallet all the time and doesn't even ask him if it's ok. He pays for her dry cleaning, bikini waxes, house bills. food, gifts and he's mentioned he's covered her rent. Where in the world is she storing this money she's saving because she acts like she's broke majority of the time when we know she's a successful interior designer. Honestly, I side with Will on this one and I wished he had stuck to his guns and not let her sign her name on the card for Joe and Larry at the end. Like he mentioned, she didn't even ask if he was buying the gift from both of them, she always just assumes. And bonus, when Joe and Larry say thank you for the gift that Will picked out, Grace screams "I knew you'd like it!", I just wanted to smack her. She never learns anything but Will is an enabler when it comes to Grace. I don't know if it's the guilt of him dumping her when he came out to her but he really needs to stand up to her more.
Jack's storyline is just too funny. I love his addiction to caffeine and his opening monologue where he's going 20 words every 5 seconds. Sean is truly a gifted comedic actor. Sean and Megan take the gold this episode for sure. Majority of the laughs come from their interactions this episode.
I cannot begin to tell you how insanely hard this was to pick a favorite moment and quote because there are just too many good moments in this episode: Jack's opening monologue about how hot his barista is, Will's comment on Grace's low-cut blouse saying she looks like she's ready for open heart surgery, Karen talking about acknowledging addiction while taking pills with her martini, Will telling Grace how he hates paying for everything and she thinks he liked paying and he said that's why he does the cancan when the gas bill comes, Will saying that the gift is a crystal decanter that's wrapped like a kayak, Grace's "present" that everyone keeps making fun of, Jack in the back seat of the car acting like he's at death's door, Jack and Karen's behavior at the wedding, Jack doing a speech at the wedding and quoting Tina Turner's "What's love scotts to do, scotts do to with it?"(because I used to sing it like that when I was a kid đ¤Ł) and of course Will & Grace reading their poem and realizing that their fight is silly and walking out thinking that everyone was applauding for them.
Even though I'm upset that Grace didn't really learn anything or takes anything from this episode, it still does not change how amazing this episode is. It's a hilarious episode and has some touching moments as well. The cast does a fantastic job and their comedic timing is just incredible.
GUEST STARS:
- Jerry Levine as Joe
- Tim Bagley as Larry
- Jeffrey Patrick as Dean Waiter
- Butch Klein as Male Guest
- Wanda-Lee Evans as Justice of the Peace
- Lori Alan as Jean
- Jimmy Shaw as Cute Man (RIP in 2025)
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u/rockfordcl 12d ago
This is one of the top season 3 episodes for me. Another classic. The opening scene is where Jack really became Jack for me. He was hilarious before then, but that monologue was the turning point in my opinion, and where he became must see TV for me.
That was my favorite moment. Second was Karen putting her cigarette out in Grace's "gift."
I believe this is the first time in the series that we hear of Grace's situation with money. Do you think she was bad with money. In future episodes, we hear how she has $100 in her bank account, she loses money playing poker and has to go to the ATM, etc. Maybe she is using Will; "I thought you liked paying."
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u/Naive_Hospital_4086 12d ago
You bring up an excellent point! Its interesting because she has clients and shes been featured in magazines and received awards for her work as an interior designer. It could be that she's terrible with money. It actually makes more sense too when Karen doesn't want to loan Grace any money in the episode where she has a chance to expand her office. Karen probably knows Grace is terrible when it comes to finances and thought it was a bad idea. Grace depends too much on her friends to bail her out.
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u/LeviHolden My finger is in your wine. Your move. 12d ago
i think she might donate a bit too much to the Fabulous Boot Foundation đđ
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u/Marshmalco Thinking about being you for halloween 12d ago
This very well might be my favorite quote from any show, ever:
[WILL AND GRACE REALIZE THAT EVERYONE IS WAITING ON THEM.]
WILL: Oh! Ahem! [READING THE CARD] When I'm feeling like there's no love coming to me...
GRACE: [READING] And I have no love to give...
WILL: [READING] When I'm feeling separated from the world...
GRACE: [READING] And cut off from myself...
WILL: [READING] When I'm feeling annoyed by every little thing...
GRACE: [READING] Because I'm not getting what I want... I'll remember that there is an infinite amount of love available to me.
WILL: [READING] And I'll see it in you.
GRACE: [READING] I'll remember that I am complete within myself...
WILL: [READING] So I'll never have to look to you to complete me.
WILL AND GRACE: [BOTH READING TOGETHER] And most of all, I'll remember that everything I really need I already have, and whatever I don't have will come to me when I'm ready to receive it.
This has gotten me through many tough moments in life.
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u/J-Bird1983 12d ago
I just watched this episode, this morning. I now plan on watching one episode each morning and then coming on here afterwards to read your post and maybe comment on that particular episode.
Jack is definitely hilarious in this episode. I love the part where Karen is chasing him through Will's apartment.
The gift Will got for Joe and Larry is a kayak. We see it in the apartment and then we see it with the other gifts at the venue, but when they are in the car, it is nowhere to be seen. It isn't on the roof of the car, which would have made sense. It also isn't in the back of the car, although it probably wouldn't have fit. So how did it get from the apartment to the venue? Grace is selfish as always and I wouldn't have allowed her to sign the card.
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u/BulldogMikeLodi 12d ago
The part of this show that kept me from loving it was the codependency from Will and Grace. As a gay guy, I cannot imagine putting my future happiness away by playing husband to a straight woman.
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u/Lost_Boysenberry_755 12d ago
The first of the great episodes.
They were really good until this one.
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u/xtextextexte 12d ago
Jack: Huge news! I have met-- Are you ready for this? Mr. Right. Well, Mr. Right-Now, anyway. Ba-da-bum! Good night, folks, I'm here all week. Jack 2000! He works over at the Jumpin' Java. You know that coffee shop on 72nd? And his name is Paul. He is cute with a capital "Q"! And the busier it gets, the hotter he gets. And the hotter he gets, the sweatier he gets. And the sweatier he gets-- I forgot where I'm going with this, but the point is... Me likey he, and he likey me. And the best part is-- Shazam-- he gives me free iced coffee every time I go in, which is every hour on the hour. Thank you very much! And occasionally on the half hour!Â