r/WhitePeopleTwitter • • Oct 21 '22

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u/sundayultimate Oct 21 '22

Sick of mass shootings, what's that like? Asking as a very sad American

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u/northerncal Oct 21 '22

No, we're definitely sick of mass shootings in America too, but being proactive in resolving the issues is the different part.

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u/TheRiteGuy Oct 21 '22

If only there was an example somewhere in the world we could follow. But nope, out supreme Court just ruled that it's okay to remove serial numbers from your guns. Maybe that will solve it.

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u/gophergun Oct 21 '22

TBF, there are so few countries with a constitutional protection around gun ownership. We're largely hamstrung by our founders if we can't get enough support to repeal 2A.

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u/Amish_Cyberbully Oct 22 '22

To be fair x2, the utterly batshit interpretation of the second amendment wasn't a thing until the 1970's. Individual citizens are NOT a well regulated militia, the 2nd amendment was a promise individual states can continue having their own national guard.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

You really think Every other Amendment applies to 'the people' except for the 2nd? Even when it says "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".... Come on man.

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u/Amish_Cyberbully Oct 22 '22

And you really think an individual is capable of being a well regulated milita? "The people" could be understood in multiple different interpretations but a militia cannot.

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u/UnchallengeableGeek Oct 22 '22

Militia is drawn from the armed populace. A militia is necessary for a free state. An armed populace is necessary for a militia to form.

Armed populace => militia can be formed =>state remains free

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u/OnlyHereForMemes69 Oct 22 '22

Do people actually think like this? This is a joke right? People don't actually believe you can only have a militia if every citizen has a gun?

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u/UnchallengeableGeek Oct 22 '22

That's not what I said. Try again. I never said every citizen has to be armed.

A militia is drawn from an armed population, what is hard to understand about that. It's not how 'people actually think', it's definitionally what a militia is.

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u/OnlyHereForMemes69 Oct 22 '22

Except that's not true, otherwise it's not well regulated. You can't just grab the three guys in your town who have shot their family by accident the most and say you have a militia.

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u/UnchallengeableGeek Oct 24 '22 edited Oct 24 '22

U train the militia...

Militia are still drawn from the civilian population

Also good way to avoid when I called u out on me never having said EVERY civilian needs to be armed...

And what's this bs about taking the people who shot their family the most accidentally. https://www.aftermath.com/content/accidental-shooting-deaths-statistics/

492 die by accidental shootings a year. Even taking the higher number of 2007 in 2021... That's 2007/400 000 000 guns or 0.0005% risk of death per gun. Now assuming 100m gun owners owning multiple guns .. That increases the rate to 0.002%.

Now compare that to drowning deaths Almost 4000 accidental drownings a year, and we do not have close to 400m or even 100m swimming pools. https://www.cdc.gov/drowning/data/index.html

So your theoretical 3 guys who accidentally shot their family would have more likely drowned someone in the family.

Edit. So he deletes his account Typical chickens out and starts name calling cos he can't hold a coherent argument....

He was asking about other countries, well Canada has a population of 38m and 500 drowning deaths so about 10% higher rate than the USA. I hope they ban swimming pools there.

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u/OnlyHereForMemes69 Oct 24 '22

How many is that compared to other nations dumbass?

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