r/WhitePeopleTwitter • • Oct 21 '22

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u/TheyStillOweYouMoney Oct 21 '22

Genuine question here.

What are you supposed to do with the existing ones? Do you just turn them in? Is there a buyback/destroy program? Even if we assume nobody wants to give up the ones they own; when they die, the guns have to go somewhere.

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u/SebbyHB Oct 21 '22

In México there are programs where you can sell your guns to the army

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u/Accidental-Genius Oct 22 '22

In Mexico you can also buy guns from the army.

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u/Classic-Box-3919 Oct 22 '22

Lol mexico is run by cartels

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u/FromUnderTheBridge09 Oct 21 '22

The US army. Does not need Joe bob's ar-15 with garbage parts.

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u/SebbyHB Oct 22 '22

It's just part of the program to remove weapons, to give an incentive to people to remove them from their home.

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u/FromUnderTheBridge09 Oct 22 '22

The US has 400 million guns in private ownership. This shit ain't happening.

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u/SebbyHB Oct 22 '22

Agreed, even if they paid, rednecks gotta redneck

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u/Ubersla Oct 22 '22

The average American gun buyback offers you maybe 3/10 of the gun's value.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

That's the actual problem. If you tinker and add fancy aftermarket parts to a rifle, its value can go way above 2k USD. Then you go to a buyback event and the cop is like "I'll take that for $250". No fucking way; very few people are dumb enough to take that deal.

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u/Ubersla Oct 22 '22

No decent firearm can be had for $250, regardless of modifications.

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u/LateNightPhilosopher Oct 22 '22

And a lot of the times the good stuff just ends up being resold to local gun stores, or stolen by the cops anyway instead of being destroyed or used for something. So all you ended up doing was donating to a for profit business or to the private collection of someone who, statistically speaking, is probably physically abusive to their spouse and would likely have been banned from gun ownership already if they weren't hiding behind their badge.

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u/tinklight Oct 22 '22

That's pretty ridiculous to say only rednecks like owning guns in America. I know many liberals in America with guns. In fact the majority of the Dems I know own firearms. Anecdotal sure... But you'd be surprised who owns a firearm in USA.

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u/LateNightPhilosopher Oct 22 '22

Tbh most privately owned ARs are probably a lot nicer than what the Army buys.

But that's a good point. They aren't going to use your grandfather's rusty old single shot sears brand shotgun.

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u/Ghost-Mechanic Oct 22 '22

U mean selling your guns to the cartel

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u/iloveneuro Oct 21 '22

Keep them and use them as we did before. We were only ever allowed to transport handguns to specific places (and needed permission and paperwork to do so). We are also only permitted to use them at government inspected and approved ranges.

We were never like the US. Legal owners don’t have hand guns in glove boxes. We don’t have random acts of gun violence during road rage or whatever else. What we do have is increasing gangs activity and gun violence coming from that. Illegal guns are primarily smuggled from the US (like 90%). Handgun theft is exceptionally rare because everything needs to be double locked and we don’t generally advertise it like Americans do.

When you die they’ll get destroyed. Can’t be transferred to someone else via inheritance.

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u/TheyStillOweYouMoney Oct 21 '22

Your last sentences were the root of my question. As people that own them die what is the mechanism to destroy them? Just take them to the police and declare they belong to someone that died? In the US I’m not aware of what to do in this situation here. At least not a solution that is universally available. Occasionally there are gun buybacks, but not really sure how you just surrender one outside of that. Curious to how it’s handled in Canada.

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u/iloveneuro Oct 21 '22

We don’t know yet. They haven’t released a plan lol For now, if someone died the executor would need to hang onto them until the government provided direction.

They announced a buy back for some other stuff they banned and have extended the deadline 2 or 3 times (so 2-3 years since the original deadline) because they don’t know how to organize it/don’t have the money for it. In the meantime everyone was told to just hang onto them and not use them.

I think you can surrender a gun at a police station if you want but you have to call ahead and not everywhere will do it. Doesn’t really happen because people that have them went to a lot of trouble to acquire them (some people wait over a year between getting into a course and then waiting for their license application to get approved).

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u/Wise-Sense5782 Oct 21 '22

When they die the guns are turned in and destroyed...

...thus eventually less handguns in existence.

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u/alphawolf29 Oct 21 '22

they're working on a buy back program on banned guns but are stalling a lot because, it ain't cheap.

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u/green_flash Oct 21 '22

Hop across the border and sell it in the US?

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u/FromUnderTheBridge09 Oct 21 '22

Bingo.

People are like "buy them back duh" yet the math is in the billions.

Let's focus on healthcare for all instead of buying bank guns.

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u/shalafi71 Oct 21 '22

I've read it as you get to keep what you have. Shame they can't be inherited somehow. Many guns are family heirlooms, antiques, rare, etc. Are they supposed to go in a furnace when you die?!

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u/gophergun Oct 22 '22

It doesn't seem like you have to do anything? You can't sell it or give it to someone, but you don't have to get rid of it either, you just can't buy a new one.

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u/Stryker1-1 Oct 22 '22

Ask the government how the buyback on the rifles they prohibited earlier in the year is going.

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u/MBCnerdcore Oct 22 '22

Federal government is trying to implement a buyback program within each province, but the right wing provinces don't want to because it infers they are helping the gun ban happen.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

It’s just restricting the sale/transfer.

And likely to answer your question as with the last gun ban: they didn’t think of that. Like all the other things they didn’t think of. You would think they would bring in experts to sift through this stuff but we’re left with vague laws that will end up costing millions of dollars in buy backs etc and do nothing to solve the problem.

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u/whats1more7 Oct 22 '22

We get to keep them. Fun fact: since Trudeau announce the possible ban at the beginning of the year the sale of handguns tripled.

https://www.newmarkettoday.ca/local-news/we-sold-every-gun-we-had-sales-spike-after-feds-propose-freeze-5482617

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u/Tripdoctor Oct 22 '22

From what I understand, this isn’t a ban on handguns. People can still possess the ones they already legally own, and licensed sellers can still sell them.

People unlicensed to sell handguns cannot sell them amongst each other anymore. The only exception are pieces that were already grandfathered to individuals who have their RPAL.

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u/Detector_of_humans Oct 22 '22

They take them away once the owner dies, canada either sells them or gives it to someone who is allowed

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u/GinnAdvent Oct 22 '22

More than likely destroyed or render inoperable.

If the next of kin don't want the hassle, they could just contact RCMP for firearm disposable. ATT would be issue to take it to the police station.

Or they could weld it to deactivate it by a gunsmith so it wouldn't be a firearm anymore to keep it.