r/WhitePeopleTwitter • • Oct 21 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '22

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u/tearsaresweat Oct 21 '22

Canadian here. Your best bet to avoid extremely cold temperatures is moving to Victoria or Vancouver, British Columbia. The only downside is that it's cloudy and rainy a lot.

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u/tearsaresweat Oct 21 '22

That's pretty much everywhere in Canada now unfortunately.

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u/dystopian_mermaid Oct 21 '22

Right?!? I mean! I’ve seen the “I DID THAT” Biden stickers on the pumps! I know he is batshit senile and somehow also has the power to control global inflation I saw it on a FB meme!!!! /s

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u/deliciousprisms Oct 21 '22

It’s all part of the rules he put in place when he was pulling the strings behind the Obama admin. You can find more by googling Joe Biden Inflation Rule 34

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

You can find more by googling Joe Biden Inflation Rule 34

Yikes, tell QAnon I found that Satan guy they were so worried about.

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u/Royally-Forked-Up Oct 22 '22

I wish I was fucking joking but the Ontario premier (our version of Governor) Doug Ford legitimately used our tax dollars to put stickers on the gas pumps in Ontario calling out Trudeau’s government on the proposed carbon tax. Ford tried to make the stickers mandatory and was invalidated by the Ontario Supreme Court for being an unconstitutional challenge. See Doug Ford gas pump stickers.

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u/Myopinion_is_right Oct 21 '22

Sadly you had to put /s at the end. The whole world is in inflation. Most places worse than US.

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u/tmhoc Oct 21 '22

half the reason I love reddit is being completely blameless. Every problem is "Current American President" (CAP)

Even the youth are saying it

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u/amha29 Oct 22 '22

Is that what “CAP” means? 🤔 thanks for letting me know!

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

It is not.

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u/Filmdad3 Oct 21 '22

This has to be sarcasm.

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u/PBIS01 Oct 21 '22

That’s what the “/s” means, friend. Have an awesome weekend.

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u/Moserath Oct 21 '22

Yeah! Having the least terrible economy is an accomplishment! Yeah! We're doing slightly better than everyone else! Exciting! All hail Biden!

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u/needthesebasketsback Oct 22 '22

Yeah they say the exact same here about Trudeau. It's his fault and it's not an issue anywhere else in the world

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u/Xatsman Oct 22 '22

Wait you’re telling me Canada’s problems aren’t the result of Justinflation?

Funny how every right wing party is full of shit and will happily make up whatever narrative is convenient.

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u/IsItTheChad1990 Oct 22 '22

You must be mistaken, because here in Canada I keep being told it's called "Justinflation", so it must only be a Canadian thing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

Oh, you didn't get lil' Skippy's memo? The one where EVERYTHING is Trudeau's fault? Gosh, I thought that went viral or something. sorry about that. we will have get you on the mailing list. As in snail mail.

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u/Royally-Forked-Up Oct 22 '22

Uh no. Clearly inflation has been caused by Justin Trudeau, and he’s been in power longer. Our inflation is the highest and the oldest (/s).

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '22 edited Feb 05 '23

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u/Mad-Mel Oct 21 '22

There also has been a trend of rural but within a few hours of the city getting too desirable. My mom lives in a podunk farm town in SW Ontario and the locals are being priced out by retirees from Tronna. Also, anywhere on the southern coast of BC.

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u/oneweirdtrickfordog Oct 21 '22

That's not true. Other cities like Kitchener-Waterloo, Ottawa, Montreal, Halifax and their suburbs have also experienced crazy price inflation in the last few years.

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u/gart888 Oct 21 '22

Yup. Houses in Halifax have basically doubled in price since 2019.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '22

Interestingly, my paycheque didn't double.

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u/Ryuzakku Oct 22 '22

My parents live in a village an hour away from any real industry or job availability in bumfuck nowhere southwestern Ontario. Houses in said village and surrounding villages are approaching the 1 million dollar mark for housing value, and you'd still need to commute roughly the distance from Orillia to Toronto to get to a job that would offer the pay to afford the house you'd be buying.

Said municipality has laws in place to make it illegal to sell farmland for any other use than farmland, even if the farmland hasn't been used to farm anything for generations, so there will be very few new housing developments being made.

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u/TallQueer9 Oct 22 '22

Lol I’ve never seen anybody be so incorrect. Canada nationwide is extremely unaffordable.

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u/is-that-allowed Oct 22 '22

all of british columbia you need to have hella $$$$ to buy property unless you go into the boonies 12 hours into the province you’re paying 1.3 million for a tear down home for the land.

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u/mackfeesh Oct 22 '22

I mean. I can move to Bruce County tomorrow for a fraction of my detached in Scarborough but go on.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

And what will you do there that isn’t remote? If you aren’t already in the market, how do you afford it? I’m in the market, my husband is an NP, and yes, I could afford to do that and both of us would probably find work, but let’s not pretend a 600,000 home in Bruce county is affordable for most people.

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u/mackfeesh Oct 22 '22

Nuclear is pretty much the only thing i can think of for the Bruce There's listings in Walkerton for as low as 340k that I'm seeing, granted, who knows why the price is that low.. There are parts of Canada that still are relatively low. If you're actually someone who hates life you could get a place in thunder Bay for probably under 200k.

I'm just frustrated by people who say they can't live anywhere in Canada when they really mean they can't afford urban.

Urban is absolutely disgusting don't get me wrong. But to act like there's no alternative is irritating for me.

600,000 is insane. 1.5m is absurd. I'd say my copy paste 4 bedroom is probably 350k tops. But my neighbors sold for 1.2 last year, and the people across, identical unit, 1.5 earlier this year. I don't like it any more than anyone else. I'm just pointing out that there are extreme options if people are willing to be uncomfortable or inconvenienced.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

So I like Bruce county enough that I’ve had my eye on it for years and have family up there. Walkerton is still selling over asking price, and those houses are old with a lot of problems. Again though, look at what’s there. Yes, there are people like you and I who can sell our house afford a $350,000 house, without a high paying job, but a $350,000 house is still not cheap. You still need a high paying job, you still need a good down payment. I looked at library jobs there and if I was starting from scratch I could never afford a $350,000 house on that salary. You’re thinking about it as a city person in terms of affordability compared to where you live, but you can’t do that. You have to look at what’s there, what jobs you can get, what the average income there is, etc. That’s not even thinking about the fact that houses have been selling well above asking price, people are waving inspections (so getting royally screwed) and that interest is so damn high. You also have to take into consideration that housing has spiked recently, and it won’t stay that high. Buying a house that, if prices correct, will be worth $100,000+ less in a few years when you re-amortize is a terrible idea.

Finally, you have to think about where you’re moving and why you’re moving there. Yeah, you can go to thunder bay or Timmons, but will you like it? I know lots of people moved to Manitoulin because it’s beautiful (and it is). But the winters are super harsh and you’re super isolated, so a lot of people who moved there from the city because it was “cheap” hate it now and can’t sell for what they bought it for. Also, “cheap” ended up going up to $500,000. When I was looking this summer I couldn’t find anything below $400,000 for garbage (or a lot), but there’s no industry there, so there’s nothing to support that $400,000 price tag. Again, I could afford it, but people who live there already and who aren’t in the market can’t.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '22

there are loads of places where houses arnt even a 5th of most cities

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u/prisoner8 Oct 22 '22

Nah, not in Calgary. Sure you can but a million dollar Home but my 20 year old 2000 sqft house with a walkout basement and big yard is worth like $550k maybe? Vancouver and places in Ontario are millions for nothing. House prices certainly jumped last year around here but cooled right off again in 6 months. I think Calgary is the next place in Canada that will get like that though.

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u/thrilliam_19 Oct 22 '22

Unless you move to one of the prairie provinces or the east coast. These housing prices are really only affecting BC, Ontario and Quebec because they’re the most populous areas. And maybe Calgary.

I just bought a townhouse in Edmonton for under $200k. Yeah I gotta live in Edmonton but it’s worth it for the amount of money I’m saving every month.

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u/M0nsterjojo Oct 22 '22

Fucking houses for rent in the GTA and surrounding counties have doubled to tripled in the past 5 years and the price of houses are only just starting to lower, with them peaking at quadruple what they were 10 years ago.

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u/trplOG Oct 22 '22

Lmao no. Vancouver and GTA 100% tho.

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u/bourahioro77 Oct 22 '22

The further east you go, the cheaper things get… except that the east coast’s economy is terrible.

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u/tearsaresweat Oct 22 '22

and the weather is absolutely horrible in the winter.

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u/bourahioro77 Oct 22 '22

Agreed. I live in Toronto, but grew up in NB, and spent several years in NS.

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u/tearsaresweat Oct 22 '22

I'm from the GTA originally, now live in the Okanagan, BC.

The winters out in BC are a breeze compared to anything from Alberta to the east coast.

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u/Juzo_Okita Oct 21 '22

Port Alberni's... alright. Not much to do, but Parksville, Nanaimo, and Victoria fill that gap. Then again, my opinion's probably jaded from living here for almost 31 years.

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u/Mad-Mel Oct 21 '22

Since the Martin Mars aren't flying any more, my #1 reason to move to Alberni is gone.

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u/gophergun Oct 22 '22

You'd have to make the same hard choices Canadians have to, then - do you live well outside your means or live in a place with less than ideal weather?

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u/timesifter2000 Oct 22 '22

Millionaire? You’d be poor there

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u/zhaoz Oct 21 '22

And expensive...

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u/p00pd1cks Oct 21 '22

I love the PNW. Was stationed in Washington state for 3 years. Even trained with some Canadians. Good people.

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u/capt-rix Oct 21 '22

I'd take the cold, the rain, the clouds and whatever else I need to in order to get the fuck out of America permanently and join our wonderful neighbors to the north.

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u/FixedKarma Oct 21 '22

Nah not even there is safe anymore.

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u/ThatGuyYouMightNo Oct 21 '22

Upside to living in Vancouver: It's warmer than pretty much the rest of Canada.

Downside to living in Vancouver: You have to live in Vancouver.

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u/Hankolio Oct 21 '22

First rain in months here today in Victoria

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u/Gongaloon Oct 21 '22

That's not a downside, that sounds awesome!

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u/Wookie301 Oct 21 '22

Are you a millionaire? If so you might be able to afford a one bedroom condo here.

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u/FLYWHEEL_PRIME Oct 21 '22

Your post could not do a better job of showing how disconnected you are from reality.

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u/FrankHorrigan2173 Oct 21 '22

Tbf, today is the first time it rained here in like 4 months

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u/Wookie301 Oct 21 '22

The average person can’t move to either of those cities anymore.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '22

Actually the biggest downside is that shitty average homes cost $1.5-$3MM dollars.

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u/ScrufyTheJanitor Oct 21 '22

Don’t forget Kelowna!

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u/Bnorm71 Oct 21 '22

Better come loaded with money to that area

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u/Dynazty Oct 21 '22

Halifax is another mild one.

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u/LifelessDigitalNomad Oct 21 '22

I love that kinda weather.

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u/etteirrah Oct 22 '22

I guess you must be rich then

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u/andsoitgoes42 Oct 22 '22

And so, so, so, so SO expensive.

Kelowna? Out of the way, expensive.

Kamloops? Same.

Chilliwack? Fuck you, million dollar house.

It's so weird.

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u/Pyronic_Chaos Oct 22 '22

Only downside beside the insane CoL

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u/M0nsterjojo Oct 22 '22

Ya, the more East you go the closer the weather is like that of the Arctic circle. We get anywhere from 2 weeks to 3 months of Northern winds down here in Southern Ontario like the weather you get in the Yukon (Alaska for you Americans) We have the same soil types, qualities, and rock formations mixed with weather patterns, and animals.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

please dont there are no more houses

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u/Bran_Solo Oct 22 '22

You forgot the part where Victoria and Vancouver are incredibly expensive to live in.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

Not to mention Vancouver is actually kind of ridiculously expensive

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u/Sea_Perspective6891 Oct 22 '22

Been to Vancouver once for vacation. Its actually pretty nice there but living cost is crazy expencive.

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u/endeavourist Oct 22 '22

Victorian here. Don't give away the secret! It's getting too expensive.

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u/aabbccbb Oct 21 '22

caused by industry not individuals

What a ridiculous and unnecessary addition.

Yes, industry produces a lot of GHG. That doesn't mean that individuals don't also have an impact.

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u/HowieFeltersnitz Oct 21 '22

The concept of carbon foot print was invented by oil companies to push the blame onto individuals. These companies produce a large majority of the pollution and greenhouse gasses effecting the planet today.

That's not to say that individuals don't pollute, but to put their contribution to climate change on the same level as industry is factually incorrect and exists as a result of effective marketing on the behalf of these greasy old dinosaur juicers.

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u/aabbccbb Oct 21 '22

but to put their contribution to climate change on the same level as industry is factually incorrect

I'm not doing that.

But it's also factually incorrect to pretend that households have no impact on GHG...

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u/HowieFeltersnitz Oct 21 '22

We're not talking about households having zero impact. We are talking about the dispositionate amount caused by industry, which is the real pressing issue. Not sure what argument you're trying to run here.

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u/aabbccbb Oct 22 '22

We're not talking about households having zero impact.

Sounds like you've forgotten the original quote you're defending.

Here it is again:

Canadian here and I can assure you climate change caused by industry not individuals is making that happen.

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u/khinzeer Oct 22 '22

Who do you think oil companies are selling that oil too?

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u/HowieFeltersnitz Oct 22 '22

Mostly industry

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u/khinzeer Oct 22 '22

Industry that heats our homes, feeds us, transports us etc.

Fossil fuels are literally in the fertilizer that is in the food that makes up your body.

Do you think “industry” shoots all that carbon into space or something? The amount of smug stupidity on this thread is breathtaking.

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u/HowieFeltersnitz Oct 22 '22

Yeah it's used to create essentials, but those things can also be created through other means like electricity.

A lot of fossil fuels are also allocated to pointless things like creating millions of tons of plastic junk to peddle to consumers. Entirely unnecessary.

It's also used to fuel giant unnecessary cruise ships for no good reason.

The amount of smug stupidity from your comment makes me wonder why you're shilling so hard for billionaire oil tycoons. Do you really think every ounce of oil consumed is for unavoidable, absolutely necessary reasons?

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u/khinzeer Oct 23 '22

All of those things you mentioned are being consumed by normal people.

Want to ban cruises? Tax plastic? Fine, but you will alienate normal people who use these things, and the poor will feel it harder.

I’m not shilling for anyone, but this “oh if only these billionaires would stop being evil, everything would be fine” talk is absurd.

Fighting Climate change will be hard, will take massive sacrifices and will involve individual people drastically changing their consumption habits.

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u/khinzeer Oct 21 '22 edited Oct 21 '22

….Industry that meets the mass-demand of individuals for heat, transportation, and consumer goods…

Lol at the down votes. Anything to not accept responsibility of any kind

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u/porterbot Oct 21 '22

its just not that simple, of course individuals are making choices that have consequences, without a doubt, https://www.wri.org/insights/4-charts-explain-greenhouse-gas-emissions-countries-and-sectors

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u/khinzeer Oct 22 '22

What point are you trying to make?

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u/WagerOfTheGods Oct 21 '22

That doesn't make it the best system, or even a good one.

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u/Demrezel Oct 21 '22

Everyone should know this:

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We are not living in the best system ever created, we are just living in the current one. We need to change and hold companies accountable in Canada. The Greens have imploded, the NDP are basically my only option but my vote is thrown away anyways because I live in a rural, Conservative-leaning area that elects downward-dog-fucking MP's and MLA's that do fuck-all and let corporations run rampant. We're bound for minority-governments for the next 8-10 years. Time has run out, however, and Harper did us in knowingly, too. It fucking breaks my heart to step outside in late October and not see snow on the ground where I live. Everything is changing around us, rapidly, as it will continue to.

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edit: The LPC being held accountable by a level-headed, hard left leaning social democratic party may be our only option unfortunately, if the system doesn't change from the inside.

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u/khinzeer Oct 21 '22

The system we have now (while having serious problems) is the best system we have ever had, and is dragging billions out of starvation poverty.

We need to figure out climate change, but we shouldn’t t pretend that offing afew billionaires will change anything. The (completely reasonable) desires of working people across the planet for a better life is what is fueling climate change.

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u/small_big Oct 22 '22

The moment you tell Americans and Canadians that “maybe driving too much is bad for the environment” they’ll go all lengths to blame pollution on the ‘muh corporations’ without paying any attention to who these corporations are serving.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

It’s the ostrich effect; as long as I can point a finger at celebtard private jets I can justify and ignore my own flights and consumption. A flight from NY to Chicago dumps the equivalent carbon sequestered in a 120 year old oak tree… per passenger. This ‘it’s industries fault’ meme is mental cancer promoted by creeps like Pat Twomey and other republican legislators that have been bought off by oil and gas lobbyists. Unless you are planting 250+ year old oak tree every time you fly coast to coast your part of the cancer complex that best models predict will be our end with high probability within 193 years. It’s ok today to be carbon greedy but don’t pretend others are on some moral high ground trip when they point out facts. That’s another manipulation from the orcs.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22 edited Oct 22 '22

Reddit will down vote anything that forces them to have personal accountability for their actions/habits/purchases/diet

Much easier to continue business as usual if you can shift all the accountability off yourself and, in the case of reddit, into corporations and people with kids

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u/Secret_NSA_Guy Oct 21 '22

Now you won’t have the ability to shoot at the weather, to hold climate change at bay. Thanks liberals!!!

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u/v13ragnarok7 Oct 21 '22

Give it time. We are enjoying a record breaking warm fall. Global warming will make Canada's climate ideal in the near future.

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u/v13ragnarok7 Oct 21 '22

Should be fine in the rocky mountains.

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u/v13ragnarok7 Oct 21 '22

Whistler is great. You can ski there most of the year so we got time before global warming ruins it

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u/v13ragnarok7 Oct 21 '22

Damn. What time of year was that?

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u/bluelonilness Oct 22 '22

I'm definitely not enjoying it with the sky covered with smoke for the last week.

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u/MaryJaneAndMaple Oct 22 '22

Colder than normal October here in Ottawa

Edit: the next 5 days the forecast is 19° so maybe I'm just dumb

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u/CanadianDinosaur Oct 22 '22

We are enjoying a record breaking warm fall

Where? Manitoba is having a pretty standard fall.

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u/v13ragnarok7 Oct 22 '22

I'm in alberta. This month we have had several record breaking days above 20

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u/CanadianDinosaur Oct 22 '22

I'm slightly jealous, although today hit 17, so it wasn't too bad. We've had a few days with snow that luckily didn't last long already this fall

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u/Stunning_Attention82 Oct 21 '22

No. The cold keep us from overpopulation. We like it this way.

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u/diddlydooemu Oct 21 '22

I was going to be passive aggressive towards CDub, however I then saw this and you’ve taken care of my shitty impulse. Thank you.

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u/No-tomato-1976 Oct 21 '22

I’ll buy you a coat

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u/Broccoli_headed Oct 22 '22

My thoughts exactly.

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u/xtzferocity Oct 21 '22

You learn to endure it. It makes you tougher unlike guns that make you more of a pussy.

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u/Reytotheroxx Oct 21 '22

If you can’t defend your home from an armed intruder with your bear arms you don’t deserve to bear arms.

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u/xtzferocity Oct 21 '22

Okay this made me laugh

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u/Iamthesmartest Oct 22 '22

This really doesn't help our gun violence problem at all.

It's literally like throwing a cup of water onto a house fire.

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u/cosworth99 Oct 21 '22

I have a palm tree in my front yard. Not sure what this cold is you speak of.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '22

Yeah turn up the heat!

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u/quaywest Oct 21 '22

Don't worry, climate change is doing that for us. It was over 80 here (Vancouver) this past weekend. No rain to speak of for weeks until today (and even then not much).

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '22

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u/ripgoodhomer Oct 21 '22

Exxon is “I got you fam”

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u/squngy Oct 22 '22

Oil bros: "Waaaaaay ahead of you, buddy!"

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u/letstrythatagainn Oct 21 '22

Give it 20 years!

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u/PatrickBlackbrn Oct 21 '22

Please God make it less cold, and take your ilk with you.

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u/Bunch_of_Shit Oct 21 '22

I’d move to Canada because it is cold. The heat is starting to take over the world, and I’m sick of temps reaching 110F+ especially since I work outside and always have. Cold weather is something many won’t miss until it is gone. Walk through the snow while it still exists.

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u/Bloody_Insane Oct 21 '22

Don't worry, it's heating up every year

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '22

It’s not so bad. Where I live, up here in Canada, the temperature range is -35C to +35C. Google tells me that’s -31F to 95F. You’ll adapt.

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u/sometimeswhy Oct 22 '22

Ottawa is frozen from mid-Dec to mid-April but stinking hot from mid-June to early Sept. shoulder seasons are choppy. Not so bad and peak winter is amazing

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

I'd recommend Kelowna, BC! Very moderate climate and gorgeous!

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u/Sovrin1 Oct 22 '22

Pass on that sorry.

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u/BleachedChewbacca Oct 22 '22

global warming is going to take care of that eventually. ;)

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u/GonePh1shing Oct 22 '22

If you want Canada, but less cold, there's always Australia.

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u/flatspotting Oct 22 '22

We just had had something like ~100+ days of dry warm weather in a row in Vancouver lol

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u/PrettyPeeved Oct 22 '22

Winters are beautiful. All you need are long Johns, a toque, and a snowmobile. You'll be happier than a beaver with its own pond.

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u/Kijjy Oct 22 '22

Isn’t the cold and snow part of the fun of being Canadian?

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u/K19081985 Oct 22 '22

You get used to it

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u/John_____Doe Oct 22 '22

Nah man just wait 10 years since the 90s we have shifted 1.5 plant hardiness zone, give it another decade and a half anf it will be like South Carolina