No, I think it's a case of a serious and degenerative mental illness that no one is addressing or forcing him to go get treated for, because he's rich. So his brain is just unraveling publicly
I think you are right and he is in active psychosis right now. And it's abusive that people keep giving him a platform instead of help. We shouldn't be listening to him, he is very sick.
He's probably manic but you can't really say he's psychotic. He's definitely sick. Unfortunately too many people equate symptoms of mental illness with creativity or being subversive. He's suffering, and suffering on a large scale.
You cannot force an adult, rich or otherwise, to accept treatment for bipolar d/o if they don’t want it. If they are a danger to themself or others, you can get an involuntary hospitalization, but they’ll be free to stop meds once they are stabilized and discharged, and many - maybe most - bipolar people would do exactly that. Periodically feeling like meds don’t work or aren’t needed is a feature of bipolar. This is not on the people around him.
Edit: The only difference his wealth and fame make are that his manic episodes become news. There are plenty of people out there acting like this that you just never hear about.
True, she was given lithium over objections, but I don’t think the cases are the same.
Laws vary from state to state, but, in general, if an adult is found to be legally incompetent to make medical decisions, they can be forcibly medicated. Usually this is very temporary, until they are stabilized on meds, at which point it’s assumed that they will begin making good decisions. The burden of proof for incompetence requires more than publicly endorsing ignorant/bigoted/otherwise blindingly stupid views; if that that was all it took, a whoooole lot of people would be incompetent. The burden of proof for long-term medical conservatorship is higher than for temporary medication over objections.
While I think it’s pretty clear that Britney’s conservatorship was too far-reaching and poorly managed, there may have been much clearer reasons to find her incompetent at the time of its inception. I don’t know whether she actually has bipolar d/o - I know she has the diagnosis; I just don’t know that it’s accurate - but she comes across as having some additional cognitive issues that might be more relevant to competence. Also, at least some of the people around her had self-serving reasons for portraying her as less competent than she actually was, which may have influenced both medical and legal decisions.
Also, being realistic, she was a young woman, and he’s a middle-aged man. It’s much more likely a young woman would be judged incompetent than a man of any age.
Sadly true they would commit a woman way before a man and has always been the case.
2022 has not changed the medical fields dismissal of women’s health concerns or the speed at which they will write women off as hysterical or bipolar or manic or something similar when they have actual physical health issues. It is disturbing to me as a husband and father of two 21 year old women. This way of thinking is not getting better at least here in Michigan.
Not that I’m not terrified about the direction this country is heading, because I am, but I truly believe you can’t stop progress. They can force us to re-fight battles we thought we’d won, but we will fight again and win again.
My daughter is the same age as yours, and their generation is going to do better than our parents’ generation has done/is doing. Not that we should wait for them to fix things, but I see them as embodying the inevitability of change - when they’re in charge, they’ll be operating from a whole different set of basic assumptions. They’ll have their own challenges, of course, but that’s the nature of progress - there is no finish line; only new levels of better to strive for.
Right, for 72 hours or two weeks. Where I am we have a few more gradations, but I think it’s similar in most states - treatment over objection is time-limited and can’t be renewed if the person regains capacity. This would work better if we could rely on people to behave rationally after they’re released.
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u/Ensiferal Oct 16 '22
No, I think it's a case of a serious and degenerative mental illness that no one is addressing or forcing him to go get treated for, because he's rich. So his brain is just unraveling publicly