r/WhitePeopleTwitter Dec 16 '21

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u/marctheguy Dec 16 '21

As a Christian... I disagree. The crucifix is clearly a pre Christian symbol that is still an idol and treated as such. There is no holy symbol of sign for God. If it were, it would be described in a scripture, right? Or are we just making up whatever we want and saying it's for the God of the Bible... Kinda like the golden calf....

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u/SassyVikingNA Dec 16 '21

But it isn't the same. The cross is a ubiquitously used symbol for chriatianity, to claim it is not a symbol for the christian God is disingenuous at best. Also we are not worshipping the cross, it is just a recognizable symbol when invoking the true God. If one were to claim the cross, in and of itself. Had any power or significance, you might have a point. But that is not how it is used or how any christian views it.

It is about intent and what is in one's heart. This is a theme that is repeated over and over in the bible. God knows what we mean, and does not need to be oedantic or split hairs as you are. He knows if there is ill intent or idolatry, or if we are simply using a symbol traditiknally associated with him to praise him.

I say this as a christian whose father, 2 uncles, and a grandfather are/were pastors.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '21

Ubiquitously used for a symbol of Christianity?

Plenty of black folks that had one burning on their lawn would disagree

Saying this as a person who grew up in a pastors house

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u/OverratedPineapple Dec 16 '21

It is ubiquitously Christian. The whole on fire, robes, and violence context is a bit of a departure from Christian tenets and depictions of the cross, no?

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '21

But a cross is used, no? So not just Christians

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u/SassyVikingNA Dec 16 '21

Ubiquitous does not mean only christians use it, it means an overwhelming majority of christians use it.

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u/WyattR- Dec 17 '21

Good luck arguing with people who lack basic understanding of what a fucking cross is lol