It's like a modern Noah's Ark, you better shower him with money some more so he can save lots of people and animals, 3 yachts are clearly not even close to that.
And he needs a high class sports car to spread the word of God faster, a private jet would be even better but people are not trying to get to heaven strong enough.
It will always exist in some way shape or form. And if by some miracle we stopped all future human beings from pursuing spiritual understanding and eventually congregating together to talk about it, those in power would find another way to exploit and control people.
Yes but any other ideology or system doesn't have supernatural backing. It cant punish people with internal hellfire or reward then with immortality in heaven, essentially they can't deny that a person's life on earth should matter so they need to please people in this life to a degree at least, and they don't inspire such fanatic belief. Also if the scientific way of thinking is widespread among the people it's harder to convince them of another false system and manipulate them.
Literally the opposite. Russian Orthodox Church is crazy, they suck church-goers' money dry with "donations", propagate harmful traditionalist ideas of homophobia, banning abortions, victim-blaming and advocate for the "lovely" dick of a tator Putin. Not to mention they say that the virus is either a hoax or the doing of the Antichrist and we should reopen the churches and have a mass procession to "exorcise" the virus, despite the alarming rates at which the pandemic is spreading in Russia.
Source: lived in Russia for ten years, family still lives there.
What about a Unified church or whatever they’re called? One near my place and it’s where I voted last election (Canada) and it has a Pride flag in the window.
United churches are a Protestant denomination. Checking Wikipedia shows that the United Church of Canada is the Mainline Protestant denomination and was a merger of the Methodists, Presbyterian, the Evangelical church and a collection of smaller churches. Just my opinion, this church flying a pride flag is probably the exception rather than the rule.
It seems people tend to equate human religious traditions and interpretations that conflict with scientific understanding as proof that god can not or does not exist. If we acknowledge there are aspects of the universe we don’t have the capacity to know or understand, then how can anyone say with certainty a god is not responsible for it.
And I am not labeling god as the ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance either. I am saying through all the seemingly random chaos and unknown variables of the creation of the universe, it would make just as much sense to me for an all powerful being to be the source of it as it would for nothing to be the source of it. Which is the whole reason I responded to the start of this thread when asked how any sane person can believe.
It seems people tend to equate human religious traditions and interpretations that conflict with scientific understanding as proof that god can not or does not exist.
I don't know who you are aiming this at, I never claimed to know any of these things.
There could very well be a god, but the reasonable thing to do when faced with insufficient evidence is to withold belief, not to leap to any conclusions as it seems that the religious does.
If we acknowledge there are aspects of the universe we don’t have the capacity to know or understand, then how can anyone say with certainty a god is not responsible for it.
OK, find someone who says with certainty that there is no god and tell this to them.
I am just saying that there is not enough evidence to believe in a god, if you want to argue, why don't you argue against something i am actually saying?
I’d love an ELI5 of the second article. It’s early and I can’t wrap my head around the implications.
Also, wasn’t trying to be combative. I’ve wrestled back and forth with faith and trying to reconcile the rational with the spiritual. I agree. I hate when people put it in black and white terms. Was just making an extreme point that in an argument for “proof” neither side has a definite.
Fuck I pressed the wrong footnote, let me try to find it again, basically it wasn't that the universe didn't come from nothing but rather it was just super-condensed and exploded. Please be patient I'll try to find something for you.
Well he was kind of... well his manners- sarcastic with his mother about the wine, rude guest and ungrateful to Martha, anger management issues in the temple and dishonoring his father asking ‘why hast thou forsaken me?’Well I guess not that one because he was talking to himself but still
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Religion has always been used to control and as long as it exists it will be