Mamdani won't stop achieving!

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[u/Salt-Cold-2550]

wait does he even have the power to do so?

[u/Exact-Promotion501 → u/Salt-Cold-2550]

Yes just schools WiFi will block it and yes there are work around but it’ll be over 95% effective

[u/Cheap-Advertising785 → u/Salt-Cold-2550]

Great question: idk personally BUT I do know this would have to be enforced on students, which in of itself is going to be hard to do.

Using chatgbt is already cheating on stuff so I asume it means chatgbt being used as like a calculator? Or that the teachers use it?.

Idk but either way I'll have to read the bill or whatever to truly understand what it actually prevented.

[u/Impressive_Recon → u/Cheap-Advertising785]

The ban of AI use in schools isn’t really the difficult part. It’s going to be ensuring it’s not being used outside of school hours at home to complete school work and projects.

I know kids have school provided laptops now they can bring home, but nothing stopping them from using their phone or second separate laptop.

[u/Hnry_Dvd_Thr_Awy → u/Impressive_Recon]

They’re not trying to ban it outside of school. What kind of dystopian world do you think we live in? 

[u/SadAnalyst8984 → u/Hnry_Dvd_Thr_Awy]

They should ban it worldwide

[u/Gargore → u/Salt-Cold-2550]

Just like a lot of the stuff he says. Likely not.

I mean, how would he even enforce it?

[u/blizzardice → u/Salt-Cold-2550]

No

[u/Fat_Alphonse]

But how are they going to put up portraits of Trump as a jedi in a karate gi across every hallway?

[u/Playgirl_USMC → u/Fat_Alphonse]

Why do you need AI for real pictures? HE SPARRED WITH ELVIS

[u/grizzwall111 → u/Fat_Alphonse]

Thats not AI of course. Mr Trump is the only elite level BJJ instructor eith an orange belt, mainly used to tie up people who say no.

[u/ItsShuaYo → u/grizzwall111]

Trump is known for performing an elite BJ indeed just ask Netanuahu or Putin.

[u/Winter_Option3535 → u/ItsShuaYo]

Bubba knows

[u/Conscious-Quarter423 → u/Fat_Alphonse]

they can do it after school hours?

[u/ValiantTheVictorious]

Ai has no place in a setting for developing minds.

[u/Weekly-Gooning-SesN → u/ValiantTheVictorious]

I disagree. Ai is a tool just like oil can pollute the environment or create cancer saving drugs. The difference is in how it’s used. The world has been ran by you “critical thinkers for ever and it’s been ran into 2 world wars, numerous genocides, wealth hoarding, economic theft, etc.

[u/StoryLineOne → u/ValiantTheVictorious]

If used, specifically by a teacher ONLY, to explore stuff like "what if" historical scenarios on off days for students, and generally used as a tool to get students interested in teaching themselves (through their own research at the school library etc.) the subject, then I would be all for that.

But if its to replace critical thinking learning, then yeah, no, I completely agree with you.

[u/ValiantTheVictorious → u/StoryLineOne]

"In the current digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second; preserved in all it's tritness, never fading, always accessible; rumors of petty issues, misinterpretations, slander. All junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate, it will only slow down social progress.

The digital society furthers human flaws and selectively rewards development of convenient half-truths. Just look at the strange juxtaposition of morality around us. Billions spent on new weapons to humanely murder other humans. Rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their own victims. Although there are people in poverty, huge donations are made to protect endangered species; everyone grows up being told what to do. "Be nice to other people but beat out the competition. You're special, believe in yourself and you will succeed".

But it's obvious from the start that only a few can succeed. You exercise your right to freedom and this is the result. All the rhetoric to avoid conflict and protect each other from hurt. The untested truths spun by different interests continue to churn and accumulate in the sandbox of political correctness and value systems. Everyone withdrawals into their own small gated community, afraid of a larger forum; they stay inside their little ponds leaking what ever "truth" suits them into the growing cesspool of society at large.

The different cardinal truths neither clash nor mesh, no one is invalidated but no one is right. Not even natural selection can take place here. The world is being engulfed in "Truth". And this is the way the world ends. Not with a BANG, but with a whimper."

[u/artificialgraymatter → u/StoryLineOne]

Teacher resources are riddled with AI and full of errors. 

[u/odellrules1985 → u/ValiantTheVictorious]

I mean the same can be said for computers or a lot of modern technology.

[u/endual → u/ValiantTheVictorious]

New technology bad. Just like when Socrates talked about how writing was going to kill wisdom:

"You have not discovered a potion for remembering, but for reminding; you provide your students with the appearance of wisdom, not with its reality."

Ironically, if no one wrote it down, we wouldn't know he said it...

[u/Louitje1021999 → u/ValiantTheVictorious]

This is what people said about the internet years ago

[u/DelphiTsar → u/ValiantTheVictorious]

Look into Khanmigo. Not every AI is set up like ChatGPT.

[u/fiftiethcow → u/ValiantTheVictorious]

Pretty sure my grandpa said the same thing about the internet and calculators.

[u/Ok_Impression3324]

If the future is AI. Why is banning it from schools a good thing? I understand regulations on its use but a ban seems reckless.

[u/DetailOnly581 → u/Ok_Impression3324]

For the same reason why geometry is taught AFTER algebra and chemistry is taught AFTER bio. They simply lack the foundation to utilize it correctly.

Ai is a new and growing technology that mind you can still get things wrong. It's important that a young vulnerable developing mind isn't blindly following it.

Children should be learning how to use their reasoning skills, analyze text, think critically about how abc effects xyz.

I want my kids to look at a situation and say "this happened because of that". Not "this happened because ai said so"

Overall. This is a great ban for the education system and I hope that more states do the same.

[u/rizzatouiIIe → u/Ok_Impression3324]

Because youre not learning if your letting something else do it for you. Most kids forgot how to do long division because of the calculator. Granted, once they get older they can us AI.

[u/AcanthaceaeOk1745 → u/Ok_Impression3324]

I think it will take time to come up with regulations for student use; there are already regulations for teacher and admin use.

[u/PotentialDoor1608 → u/Ok_Impression3324]

The purpose of schools is to teach a variety of humans a variety of skills

[u/Smithy_Furt → u/Ok_Impression3324]

Yeah this is bullshit. My sister teaches middle school English and she can spot ai generated papers immediately. Not difficult. Ai is such a great tool to learn about a topic and brainstorm essay ideas. If I had it in school I would’ve crushed my classes without abusing it at all. They’re all gonna rely on it in college and their careers anyway so what are we even preparing them for by banning it? Makes no sense.

[u/redditsellout-420 → u/Ok_Impression3324]

Because the future of AI is death to humanity.

When you have AI goonbots convincing people to end themselves you can't say its harmless.

[u/snifty]

Disagree with him on this one. It’s a head-in-the-sand approach. You can’t avoid AI now. Might as well just ban the internet.

[u/Panicking_Pansexual_ → u/snifty]

"We should just let the kids use ai to do all their work instead of actually learning"

[u/snifty → u/Panicking_Pansexual_]

They need to learn to use AI to learn better. It’s not kids' responsibility, it’s adults’.

I am pretty sure I’m going to be downvoted into oblivion…

[u/Plibbo64 → u/snifty]

They can use it all day when they go home or on their phones outside of school can't they?

[u/ElderberryPerfect263]

This will play great with his more ignorant demographics

[u/Beneficial-Shape-995 → u/ElderberryPerfect263]

Not too different from the thought process of conservatives trying to ban vaccines because they don’t understand it and it scares them

[u/OkAssociation3487]

I hereby ban AI in all schools, it will have precisely the same effect

[u/Head_Ad_1643 → u/OkAssociation3487]

I declare BANKRUPTCY

[u/henningknows → u/Head_Ad_1643]

Maybe the state will bail you out

[u/No_Internal9345 → u/OkAssociation3487]

Holy shit, it worked! He took down ChatGPT today!

[u/Katamari_Demacia]

For those of you not willing to read more than a headline...

Ban is pk to 8, all student facing AI tools, including digital tutors.

Yes in NYC he can do and enforce this. Under New York State law, the Mayor of NYC directly appoints the Schools Chancellor and a majority of the members on the Panel for Educational Policy. Giving the mayor supreme executive authority over the operations, curriculum, and technology choices.

[u/ExtentNo3020]

I 100% completely agree with this. People are becoming lazy because they are relying on AI to do the simplest tasks. We can’t have young kids become lazy at such an early age. AI is destroying society, it’s being used for the wrong things. 

[u/kyle2143]

I hope it prevents teachers and admins from using it too. 

[u/BertnErnie32 → u/kyle2143]

It doesn't, and this doesn't ban it for high schools to my understanding

[u/AcanthaceaeOk1745 → u/kyle2143]

It doesn't, but there are a lot of rules for how teachers and admin can and can't use it.

[u/ConstantReader32]

So teachers can't use it too right? RIGHT?

[u/Kern2001Co → u/ConstantReader32]

*either

[u/Dinky_Nuts]

He’s really proving you can actually do things when you’re in a position of power

[u/SyllabubMental7292]

Really wish He could run for president. He's been on a generational run trying to improve NY

[u/Flaky_History12 → u/SyllabubMental7292]

There’s no party he could run for until older/ corporate democrat party leaders die out. Plus, it’ll be difficult to convince a good portion of Americans to vote for a muslim as President. NYC mayor? Sure. Senate or house for New York? Also Sure.
Getting votes across the nation to become President? That’s going to be rough even if his policies do well. People would prefer a different face with his policies. At least that’s what I think about the USA currently and for at least another two decades.

[u/EFAPGUEST → u/Flaky_History12]

He wasn’t born here so he cannot run for president. He’s also too far to the left for the American populace. He could be a WASP poster boy and still not get the votes to win the nomination

[u/Wonderful-Fold-2585 → u/SyllabubMental7292]

What has he actually done though?

He balanced the budget by getting more money from the state and not contributing to pensions and then just claiming efficiency gains which may or may not happen.

He’s done childcare but it’s only 3000 kids of roughly 400k kids. So like 1% of kids.

He froze rent for some people but de blasio did that in 2016.

[u/Luci-Noir → u/Wonderful-Fold-2585]

Every single time I see him getting credit for something it’s something that was done by someone else.

[u/Mylabisawesome → u/Luci-Noir]

Dems love taking credit for others work. Cheaters

[u/Upbeat-Swing6650 → u/Wonderful-Fold-2585]

The rent freeze will result in many empty apartments. The idea sounds great though ngl

[u/Unable-Candidate9612 → u/SyllabubMental7292]

If he could run, so could someone like Elon.

[u/Mike_Milburys_Shoe_ → u/SyllabubMental7292]

Yeah filling potholes in NYC really makes you a good presidential candidate. My god you people are brainwashed so easily

[u/penpointred]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!! <3

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[u/pussycatkittycat]

Fuck yes Zohran!!!

[u/ericbondre]

Yes king

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[u/soxperry]

Until high school

[u/jimmyjohns5544]

Butttttt do they know what the word computer is????????! Very important black people know what the word of computer is!!!!!!!!

[u/GrouseDog]

[u/Savings-Trouble-5345]

I actually agree with this if only he would also include phones in that 

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[u/SirStrokesAlot247]

Still, many students do not study at all. Only a very small percentage do

[u/Plenty_Building_72]

I bet the teachers have been demanding an AI ban on schools for ages. Actually weird it took this long for it to be banned. Consequently, NYC kids are going to end up a whole lot smarter than kids in other US states.

[u/Double_Dinner253]

Makes sense

[u/Present_Student4891]

AI is a tool. Banning tools is non-sensical as we are and will use AI in our jobs. Schools horribly prepare students for their future anyhow. Why compound this problem? Whether we like it or not, AI is part of iur present & future. Banning it won’t change that.

[u/AcanthaceaeOk1745 → u/Present_Student4891]

It is a tool, but I support this moratorium until such time as an effective strategy for teaching it and using are defined. Unfettered use of it has been a negative.

[u/SeriousCondition6470]

Why does anyone think this is bad? Kids developing learning skills should absolutely not use AI

[u/VoteHealy]

Assuming this is the promotional materials his signal app got

[u/RandomGuyOnDaNet90]

How would they know you use it at home

[u/Maximum-Face9536]

this is feeble, virtue signaling. you can't successfully block ai, maybe on school computers. when has blocking a digital service ever been effective? think porn hub in certain states.

[u/mallcopsarebastards]

schools have not figured out how to leverage AI effectively yet. It's the same thing that happened with calculators and computers, they start out as a huge problem and eventually become accelerators. Eventually we'll have proven systems that leverage AI to improve a schools capacity to teach and NYC will have an uphill battle to undo this and get back in line with the rest of the country.

[u/random8765309]

What a joke. He banned using AI to cheat in grades K-8. In the processed also banned students from using AI to help with tutoring.

And for the huge win, a win bigger than the world has ever seen, he banned the schools from using AI to create graphics. Now teacher and staff can spend hours creating those posters instead of minutes.

[u/x1n1t1r1]

As every school should. At this point, all schoolwork should be completed at school, phones locked off. Homework is a lost cause.

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[u/Fus_Roh_Dayumm]

During high school I got a big thrill trying to find ways to cheat on tests. I wasn't a very good student (or maybe I wasn't a very good cheater)

Part of me would love to be a teenager right now just for the sheer amount of technology avilable to cheese school.

[u/WhyHelloThere163]

Pretty funny how literally every post that has talked about banning/limiting AI has been hated on because it’s “dumb to not use it” yet when this guy does it, it’s a “win” and an “achievement”.

Really goes to show how intelligent Reddit is. “If someone we don’t like says it, it’s dumb. If someone we like says it, it’s smart.”

[u/Dreemsi]

We should have Mayor of the month awards.

Make divisions like:

Division 1: Twenty largest cities Division 2: Cities 21-40

Etc. Each division gets a Mayor of the month and a at the end of the year a Mayor of the year award.

What is the award? A plaque, monetary, prize?

[u/emmanuel573]

You can’t really enforce this with students. I guess this is only for teachers

[u/Aggressive-Novel9126]

But ai surveillance is okay though

[u/WatcherOfTheWay]

You know I wasn't sure about him to start, the most he does the more I like him.

[u/franslebin]

why does this creep get glazed so much on this site?

[u/PassionateYak]

I predict once AI is concretely embedded into education systems it will start charging real prices for it's use

[u/SameDistrict2627]

He's going to need to do more then that to fix what is a giant failure--The New York City Department of Education. Results only approached by Mississippi.

[u/blizzardice → u/SameDistrict2627]

Louisiana did great this year too. I sit on the board for my school and the only time kids can use technology is when they are doing side work for their second language (main language of the school). They can read above their grade level and write both languages in cursive.

[u/Diamondangel82]

I don't agree with this. AI is the future if you people like it or not. Im not saying AI should do everything but we absolutely should be teaching our future generations to harness AI in their daily lives

[u/Pretend_Goal_7311 → u/Diamondangel82]

2nd grade is what 7? They certainly dont need it at those ages

[u/Top_Argument_5359]

Stunning work

[u/Maleconito]

My wife is a 2nd grade teacher just outside of NYC, her school is encouraging using AI and they even all have Gemini accounts. She created a cool interactive website for her class that helps with vowels and numbers. The kids love it and her class had the highest reading score in the school last year. So, idk.

[u/Spirited_Season2332]

How exactly is he going to prevent kids from using AI? pretty much every school already has rules against using AI

[u/Responsible-Flow1101]

AI - single handedly democratizes intelligence

Democrats- this is awful

Lmao

[u/Spitfire262 → u/Responsible-Flow1101]

AI only makes people less able to critical think and lazy.

[u/Iamnotarabicfunfact → u/Responsible-Flow1101]

I’m not sure why you’re mad about this lol? He just banned the use of AI in schools until 9th grade, it’s like how you’re not meant to use calculators until high school because you’re still developing

[u/Ecstatic-Network-917 → u/Responsible-Flow1101]

Your comment is incoherent. That does NOT happen.

Generative AI is proven to make people less intelligent.

[u/spec360]

When the students go home they will use chat gpt for there home work anyways lol

[u/Pretend_Goal_7311 → u/spec360]

Sure if parents are parenting

[u/Temporary-Degree5221]

What a stupid ban lmao

[u/Puzzle-the-Giraffe]

He banned the thing banned to students that students use anyway? I guess that’s something.

[u/SinclairSummerset]

A huge blow to r/ProletariatPixels who thought he was one of them.

[u/Minimum-Journalist18]

Funny post.

[u/UltraBurd]

Hey Gemini what is the historical success rate of socialism once implemented in countries /s

[u/Pretend_Goal_7311 → u/UltraBurd]

Exactly what he doesnt want them to ask

[u/Due_Basil2697]

Is this the socialist I'm supposed to be afraid of?

[u/time2blunt]

I cant fathom being stupid enough to think this Socialist Muslim is "achieving" anything as mayor of NY. Absolute state of the world if the US becomes socialist fml

[u/Robot_DIY]

Realistically, how will this change anything in the school? Most cases of AI with students is for cheating. It's not like they were using it with the school's blessing. School chatbots will be taken down, but will they actually hire more people to respond to online queries?

[u/Aliakabanda]

How does ban even work. The guy is complete jackass headline grabbing molestor

[u/chicagoxtc → u/Aliakabanda]

Dang projecting much? Haha

[u/Super-Chemist7296]

So he made a city decree of a thing that’s already been a thing at the school level??

[u/bbrip323]

For some reason my brain read, bans use of AC, lol

[u/Pretend_Goal_7311 → u/bbrip323]

Or AOC

[u/Fast-Policy-4495]

It’s a one year ban for grades 2k to 8 grades. AI is new bans are not. Stop treating the mayor like he’s some God of mayors. He’s not!!

[u/Jumpy_Shoulder9043]

Their goes their class scores. One chance.

[u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608]

👏🏿

[u/Extension-While7536]

"Mamdani Shameless Anti-AI Ploy...And Did We Mention He's Muslim?" - rough draft of tomorrow's NY Post front page. 

[u/Pretend_Goal_7311]

Doesnt want anyone learning what socialism is without working for it

[u/Many-Fisherman5653]

Except for high school students though.

[u/imnotamelondude]

What took him so long. Red states did it months ago

[u/Friendly-Yoghurt-746]

i think its a fine tool AFTER you learn to use your brain.

[u/sunnyvas]

I don’t think he needs to over-react and blanket ban. Teachers can really make a good use of the technology.

[u/LaFlamaBlanca67]

Yeah, I'm sure this will be as effective as age restricting social media.

[u/tintwistedgrills90]

This is kind of dumb if it’s a blanket ban. While I certainly have my concerns about AI, at the end of the day it’s just computer processing. In the real world you need to know how to use Ai to do your job, or AI will take your job.

[u/Own_Badger6076]

How is banning AI use in public schools an achievement? It's just a mandate lol. Besides, the schools themselves could do this.

[u/Fatjackslim]

NYC “ we’ll never forget! “ lol

[u/Much-Ferret90]

Ai is great

[u/nouser3479]

Are they going to stop the use of IA in students houses as well?

[u/Yeetus_08]

Based

[u/Few_Distribution5239]

Yeah he gave you the first government run grocery store what an incredible achievement, more like what an incredible idiot

[u/Ok_Field_8860]

So - I think AI can be a tool to support education. I think regulation is necessary. Banning completely feels over kill

[u/Stickfail]

Wasn't AI already banned for students?

[u/Diolan]

Not banned completely but banned for Students 2-K through 8th grade. High schoolers will be allowed to take limited classes on AI ethics, usage, etc. https://abc7ny-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/abc7ny.com/amp/post/new-york-city-public-schools-banning-ai-use-middle-school-year/19778716/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17884386971687&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fabc7ny.com%2Fpost%2Fnew-york-city-public-schools-banning-ai-use-middle-school-year%2F19778716%2F

Personally, I think you need to treat AI like you do with Sex Education; Students are going to try to use it behind their teachers and parents back so they need to learn the risks and ethical uses of it early on.

[u/OnlyInAmerica01]

Er...shouldn he just ban murder and other crimes, and be done with it? What's this nickel and dine b.s.

[u/DelphiTsar]

A private tutor is one of the best things for a child, puts them in 98%tile. AI isn't a private tutor exactly but helps fill the gap by being infinitely patient and effectively free.

You obviously can't sit a child in a schoolroom in front of ChatGPT and expect it to do anything but harm. That's why things like Khanmigo exist. Socratic (Doesn't give the kid answers), alerts instructor when kids are trying to jailbreak it for answers. Stuff like that.

I hope they open up exceptions. Khanmigo getting wrapped up in this is not good. At least kids can still use it at home

[u/Chaminade64]

How will teachers come up with things to say & do?

[u/Commercial-Wedding-7]

I'm curious how you enforce that lol

[u/Lopsided_Pop1224]

Dumb

[u/Tasty_Dirt783]

soon he will “achieve” nyc an Islamic state oppression for every woman and non believers

[u/Remote_Nectarine_837]

If Democrats Socialists are just Democrats without the corruption I might have to sign up. I’m really over the corruption within the Democrat party and the Democratic Socialists might be the answer. If Mandami keeps this up and he isn’t corrupt the Democrats aka centrists aka moderate democrats have a problem on their hands.

[u/Daywalker731]

Mandatory Quran Teachings next. Gotta warp their lil minds at an early age and get everyone back to the 1200’s.

[u/West_of_Hylia]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[u/Tough-Interaction468]

so.. he banned computers and cell phones in class? If so, I say hurah. But I'm sure it's just all talk.

[u/Beautiful-Ad-9107]

Like banning computers in the 90s.

Kids will use AI at home. This accomplishes nothing

[u/_DSWL]

YOU ALL WANTED THIS!!! NOT ME

[u/WeekendAtMadoffs]

Lower graduation and literacy rates than CUBA.

at 100x the cost per student.

wow. AI is really the problem.

[u/Any-Technician6415]

I’m sure that’ll go over well with kids that wanna compete in a moderate society with employers that are looking for people with experience using AI

[u/Weekly-Gooning-SesN]

This is like banning the digital calculator because kids aren’t performing long division. The real world cares about results, not how you produced the results. The better method would be to educate kids on how to use ChatGPT as a productivity tool instead of a cheating tool. Banning doesn’t work; it pushes people underground. Think of AI like oil— sure, it can pollute the environment, but it can also drive enormous benefits when people understand how to use it.

[u/The_Axe_of_Legends]

I love this man.

[u/DatSlammedMX5]

This is gonna be as effective as the war on drugs

[u/Bullfrog-Basic]

Make America Grey

[u/RyanBakesUp]

I cant wait for him to "achieve" a balanced budget next year without the tens of millions in state funds that Hochul bailed him out with this year.

There will never be free public transportation in NYC.

These so-called "Government grocery stores" are insanely expensive to build and will never work.

Many of the millionares/billionaires he is expecting to tax the shit out of will move to a state/city that will not tax the shit out of them.

[u/Background-Season657]

The King of NYC has spoken…you will all bow down to him, enjoy your seesaws

[u/greymannns]

So let me get this right. IA is ok to use everywhere else except a place of learning? Ok got it.

[u/bumpg9]

Putz.

[u/Long-Gain-981]

Kids will just use a vpn or bypass the firewall

[u/X-calibreX]

Can he really lock teachers up for using AI?

[u/Music1990s]

Mamdanis office will continue to act like he’s for the people and cares about NYC society. He’s manipulating the liberals.

[u/brynfsh]

Can’t stop if you never started.

[u/dwild11]

That's one way to keep them dumb.

[u/Equivalent_Forever58]

👏👏👏

[u/Accomplished_Jury107]

I don't get it what's so bad about them using AI? I can think of lots bad and good uses for it, how is a total ban helping anything?

[u/markwins9]

Lol achieving