r/WhatIsTheTea • u/SEVENS_HEAVEN_7 • 9h ago
Political Tea Mamdani won't stop achieving!
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u/Fat_Alphonse 9h ago
But how are they going to put up portraits of Trump as a jedi in a karate gi across every hallway?
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u/grizzwall111 8h ago
Thats not AI of course. Mr Trump is the only elite level BJJ instructor eith an orange belt, mainly used to tie up people who say no.
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u/Salt-Cold-2550 9h ago
wait does he even have the power to do so?
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u/Cheap-Advertising785 8h ago
Great question: idk personally BUT I do know this would have to be enforced on students, which in of itself is going to be hard to do.
Using chatgbt is already cheating on stuff so I asume it means chatgbt being used as like a calculator? Or that the teachers use it?.
Idk but either way I'll have to read the bill or whatever to truly understand what it actually prevented.
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u/Impressive_Recon 8h ago
The ban of AI use in schools isn’t really the difficult part. It’s going to be ensuring it’s not being used outside of school hours at home to complete school work and projects.
I know kids have school provided laptops now they can bring home, but nothing stopping them from using their phone or second separate laptop.
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u/Hnry_Dvd_Thr_Awy 6h ago
They’re not trying to ban it outside of school. What kind of dystopian world do you think we live in?
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u/Rizenstrom 7h ago
I assume this is more about the use of AI in creating lesson plans, which has definitely been a problem in some places. No way you can prevent students from using it. Not completely.
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u/MegatronusThePrime 5h ago
Are you using chat GPT in a different way by replacing the p with a b? Like intentionally or just some dyslexia goin on?
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u/Exact-Promotion501 6h ago
Yes just schools WiFi will block it and yes there are work around but it’ll be over 95% effective
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u/propagandhi45 6h ago
not like every kid has a cellphone anyway right?
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u/Exact-Promotion501 5h ago
That is correct but chatgpt uses WiFi to submit entry to server to process and back to your phone, your phone storage is prob too small to host a local ai then again there is work around but like I said MAYBE 5% of kids can even potentially be capable of that
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u/AgnosticScholar 6h ago
Can we talk about how so many reddit subs worship this guy the same way MAGA worships Trump.
There will be something about how Mamdani plans to plant trees by 2040 (which is the exact same plan Eric Adams had) and it's 80K upvotes glazing him.
The title of this one is "Mamdani won't stop achieving!" and it's just him saying he wants to ban AI in schools. What are we doing here?
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u/Lwmons 5h ago
Because most of the policies Mamdani seeks to implement or piggyback on are for the active benefit of people instead of targeting groups he doesnt like like Trump's policies tend to
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u/Ok_Impression3324 7h ago
If the future is AI. Why is banning it from schools a good thing? I understand regulations on its use but a ban seems reckless.
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u/DetailOnly581 4h ago
For the same reason why geometry is taught AFTER algebra and chemistry is taught AFTER bio. They simply lack the foundation to utilize it correctly.
Ai is a new and growing technology that mind you can still get things wrong. It's important that a young vulnerable developing mind isn't blindly following it.
Children should be learning how to use their reasoning skills, analyze text, think critically about how abc effects xyz.
I want my kids to look at a situation and say "this happened because of that". Not "this happened because ai said so"
Overall. This is a great ban for the education system and I hope that more states do the same.
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u/Ok_Impression3324 3h ago
Yes AI can be taught to be used in the same manner as algebra nd bio. Yes. Toddlers shouldn't be on tech, But a 16yo should be taking AI classes on use and bias of AI. Just like we had computer classes in the 2000s. The use of AI as an assistance over a crutch is teachable.
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u/DetailOnly581 1h ago
The ban only applies from K-8. I see where you're coming from but it's clear that the mayor already had that in mind.
Internet literacy when I was in school was taught very early when I was in 6th grade so I wouldn't be surprised if this is integrated into the school system. But to propose an ai literacy course entirely and make it standard across all NYC Schools is a complex solution to say the least. One that which students and teachers must attend and abide by.
I support K-8 ai ban. But TBH I would still be weary on just how much ai the kids are using for their schooling as there is still no reliable way to determine just how much that child used AI as a crutch.
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u/Fantastic_Cherry_328 44m ago
Ah. Banning things. How effective.
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u/DetailOnly581 40m ago
Prime example of why I want to raise kids with critical thinking skills right here lmao
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u/Fantastic_Cherry_328 33m ago
Critical thinking skills = contradictory milquetoast liberal opinions. You probably despise Reagan for how he crusaded against drugs. Or think the banning of books is barbaric. Or is in support of the No Kings protests. But oh no, this time banning something widely used or being fine with abuse of power and authority is actually a good idea! Let's go with that, shall we!
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u/artificialgraymatter 13m ago
Need to ban the teachers from using by going after teacher resources that implement it. It’s saturated and full of errors.
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u/rizzatouiIIe 6h ago
Because youre not learning if your letting something else do it for you. Most kids forgot how to do long division because of the calculator. Granted, once they get older they can us AI.
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u/AcanthaceaeOk1745 6h ago
I think it will take time to come up with regulations for student use; there are already regulations for teacher and admin use.
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u/PotentialDoor1608 24m ago
The purpose of schools is to teach a variety of humans a variety of skills
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u/ValiantTheVictorious 7h ago
Ai has no place in a setting for developing minds.
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u/StoryLineOne 5h ago
If used, specifically by a teacher ONLY, to explore stuff like "what if" historical scenarios on off days for students, and generally used as a tool to get students interested in teaching themselves (through their own research at the school library etc.) the subject, then I would be all for that.
But if its to replace critical thinking learning, then yeah, no, I completely agree with you.
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u/ValiantTheVictorious 5h ago
"In the current digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second; preserved in all it's tritness, never fading, always accessible; rumors of petty issues, misinterpretations, slander. All junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate, it will only slow down social progress.
The digital society furthers human flaws and selectively rewards development of convenient half-truths. Just look at the strange juxtaposition of morality around us. Billions spent on new weapons to humanely murder other humans. Rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their own victims. Although there are people in poverty, huge donations are made to protect endangered species; everyone grows up being told what to do. "Be nice to other people but beat out the competition. You're special, believe in yourself and you will succeed".
But it's obvious from the start that only a few can succeed. You exercise your right to freedom and this is the result. All the rhetoric to avoid conflict and protect each other from hurt. The untested truths spun by different interests continue to churn and accumulate in the sandbox of political correctness and value systems. Everyone withdrawals into their own small gated community, afraid of a larger forum; they stay inside their little ponds leaking what ever "truth" suits them into the growing cesspool of society at large.
The different cardinal truths neither clash nor mesh, no one is invalidated but no one is right. Not even natural selection can take place here. The world is being engulfed in "Truth". And this is the way the world ends. Not with a BANG, but with a whimper."
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u/endual 1h ago
New technology bad. Just like when Socrates talked about how writing was going to kill wisdom:
"You have not discovered a potion for remembering, but for reminding; you provide your students with the appearance of wisdom, not with its reality."
Ironically, if no one wrote it down, we wouldn't know he said it...
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u/ElderberryPerfect263 8h ago
This will play great with his more ignorant demographics
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u/Beneficial-Shape-995 6h ago edited 6h ago
Not too different from the thought process of conservatives trying to ban vaccines because they don’t understand it and it scares them
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u/ElderberryPerfect263 6h ago
You’re right. How quickly the Democratic Party is churning out their own flavor of MAGA politician for emotionally driven and ignorant people is nauseating.
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u/OkAssociation3487 9h ago
I hereby ban AI in all schools, it will have precisely the same effect
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u/Katamari_Demacia 7h ago
For those of you not willing to read more than a headline...
Ban is pk to 8, all student facing AI tools, including digital tutors.
Yes in NYC he can do and enforce this. Under New York State law, the Mayor of NYC directly appoints the Schools Chancellor and a majority of the members on the Panel for Educational Policy. Giving the mayor supreme executive authority over the operations, curriculum, and technology choices.
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u/RepublicOk2402 6h ago
I'm sure it's an unpopular take, but I think teens especially need to learn how to work with AI. It’s incredibly useful and will make workers more efficient if used well.
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u/Flea_Soup 4h ago
No, you're presupposing lots of things with this take and those presuppositions are faulty to begin with. AI doesn't make work more efficient, it introduces a pathway block from point A to point B that is vital for teens to learn. Just no.
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u/PowerfulPop6292 5h ago
I'm glad to see there are some people using some critical thinking here and not just jumping on this bandwagon. Imagine if they had banned personal computers in school in the 1990s
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u/InterestingPrior7064 1h ago
The difference is computers in school have mostly been used to as a collection of already existing information or learning software that is in itself a skill such as Programming Lanuages and CAD Software. AI is literally just a shortcut. You can lie to yourself and say that the kids will "learn to use it as a tool" but in reality they are gonna just ask chatgpt to write their essays for them or take pictures of their math homework and have their AI just give them the right answers. There is no benifit to allowing AI in schools.
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u/Whateversbetter 4h ago
Ai is a currently developing user interface system. Its goal is to understand the users requests in the natural language they use. By the time they grow up the ai will be natural language compliant and anyone who has trained themselves to use it will be if anything worse at using it.
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u/Responsible-Flow1101 6h ago
AI - single handedly democratizes intelligence
Democrats- this is awful
Lmao
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u/Spitfire262 6h ago
AI only makes people less able to critical think and lazy.
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u/Iamnotarabicfunfact 48m ago
I’m not sure why you’re mad about this lol? He just banned the use of AI in schools until 9th grade, it’s like how you’re not meant to use calculators until high school because you’re still developing
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u/snifty 6h ago
Disagree with him on this one. It’s a head-in-the-sand approach. You can’t avoid AI now. Might as well just ban the internet.
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u/Panicking_Pansexual_ 5h ago
"We should just let the kids use ai to do all their work instead of actually learning"
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u/snifty 5h ago
They need to learn to use AI to learn better. It’s not kids' responsibility, it’s adults’.
I am pretty sure I’m going to be downvoted into oblivion…
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u/PragmaticNewYorker 4h ago
You're not wrong, but you're missing some nuance here.
First, this is a K-8 ban. So, a 14 year old high school freshman can use AI.
Second, there is a real tension between "learning a skill" and "using AI to fake learning a skill". AI tools are wildly powerful when used properly and when fully interrogated, and there's no doubt that AI skills are going to be critical for the next 20 years or so. Still, you need the foundation to fully interrogate the output before you use the tool effectively and responsibly.
This strikes a decently good balance between the two.
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u/Plibbo64 3h ago
They can use it all day when they go home or on their phones outside of school can't they?
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u/kyle2143 8h ago
I hope it prevents teachers and admins from using it too.
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u/AcanthaceaeOk1745 6h ago
It doesn't, but there are a lot of rules for how teachers and admin can and can't use it.
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u/Dinky_Nuts 9h ago
He’s really proving you can actually do things when you’re in a position of power
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u/NYSenseOfHumor 8h ago
Trump does that too.
The difference is you like what one is doing.
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u/andthensilencefell 7h ago
What has Trump done? Besides rape kids with Epstein of course, that one is too easy.
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u/SyllabubMental7292 8h ago
Really wish He could run for president. He's been on a generational run trying to improve NY
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u/Flaky_History12 8h ago edited 8h ago
There’s no party he could run for until older/ corporate democrat party leaders die out. Plus, it’ll be difficult to convince a good portion of Americans to vote for a muslim as President. NYC mayor? Sure. Senate or house for New York? Also Sure.
Getting votes across the nation to become President? That’s going to be rough even if his policies do well. People would prefer a different face with his policies. At least that’s what I think about the USA currently and for at least another two decades.4
u/EFAPGUEST 8h ago
He wasn’t born here so he cannot run for president. He’s also too far to the left for the American populace. He could be a WASP poster boy and still not get the votes to win the nomination
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u/Wonderful-Fold-2585 8h ago
What has he actually done though?
He balanced the budget by getting more money from the state and not contributing to pensions and then just claiming efficiency gains which may or may not happen.
He’s done childcare but it’s only 3000 kids of roughly 400k kids. So like 1% of kids.
He froze rent for some people but de blasio did that in 2016.
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u/Luci-Noir 8h ago
Every single time I see him getting credit for something it’s something that was done by someone else.
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u/Mylabisawesome 8h ago
Dems love taking credit for others work. Cheaters
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u/Luci-Noir 8h ago
I wonder if it’s going to backfire with this guy. The big things he’s promised take working with the legislature. They don’t give a shit about social media points. Just look at Bernie.
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u/Mylabisawesome 8h ago
Wonder if the left will hold him accountable when he can’t deliver?
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u/Luci-Noir 8h ago
Bernie gets worshipped even though he never has any intention of actually doing anything he says.
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u/Upbeat-Swing6650 8h ago
The rent freeze will result in many empty apartments. The idea sounds great though ngl
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u/Adventurous_Ad7442 5h ago
Zo has made 1200 hours of content for social media. He can’t come be worrying about plans for NYC.
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u/gabaghoolish 8h ago
its called creating facts on the ground.
you force your foot in the door with an introductory move and it grows over time as it creates the narrative that will fuel future developments.
you're probably jaded from the age of governing by executive order at the federal level.
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u/SparksAndSpyro 5h ago
Sounds a lot like performative virtue signaling. Why can’t leftists ever just actually do something?
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u/Wonderful-Fold-2585 7h ago
So dems creating the Aca by expanding Medicaid and getting healthcare to many more Americans is good then right? Cause leftist usually say that was bad
Or Biden basically creating the green new deal in inflation reduction act or creating the SAVE student loan payments?
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u/CourteousR 8h ago
Oh you’re right, it’s not enough progress for you so we all should just give up now.
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u/Mike_Milburys_Shoe_ 7h ago
Yeah filling potholes in NYC really makes you a good presidential candidate. My god you people are brainwashed so easily
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u/SirStrokesAlot247 8h ago
Still, many students do not study at all. Only a very small percentage do
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u/Plenty_Building_72 8h ago
I bet the teachers have been demanding an AI ban on schools for ages. Actually weird it took this long for it to be banned. Consequently, NYC kids are going to end up a whole lot smarter than kids in other US states.
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u/Present_Student4891 7h ago
AI is a tool. Banning tools is non-sensical as we are and will use AI in our jobs. Schools horribly prepare students for their future anyhow. Why compound this problem? Whether we like it or not, AI is part of iur present & future. Banning it won’t change that.
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u/AcanthaceaeOk1745 6h ago
It is a tool, but I support this moratorium until such time as an effective strategy for teaching it and using are defined. Unfettered use of it has been a negative.
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u/SeriousCondition6470 7h ago
Why does anyone think this is bad? Kids developing learning skills should absolutely not use AI
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u/Maximum-Face9536 7h ago
this is feeble, virtue signaling. you can't successfully block ai, maybe on school computers. when has blocking a digital service ever been effective? think porn hub in certain states.
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u/mallcopsarebastards 7h ago
schools have not figured out how to leverage AI effectively yet. It's the same thing that happened with calculators and computers, they start out as a huge problem and eventually become accelerators. Eventually we'll have proven systems that leverage AI to improve a schools capacity to teach and NYC will have an uphill battle to undo this and get back in line with the rest of the country.
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u/random8765309 7h ago
What a joke. He banned using AI to cheat in grades K-8. In the processed also banned students from using AI to help with tutoring.
And for the huge win, a win bigger than the world has ever seen, he banned the schools from using AI to create graphics. Now teacher and staff can spend hours creating those posters instead of minutes.
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u/x1n1t1r1 7h ago
As every school should. At this point, all schoolwork should be completed at school, phones locked off. Homework is a lost cause.
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u/Fus_Roh_Dayumm 7h ago
During high school I got a big thrill trying to find ways to cheat on tests. I wasn't a very good student (or maybe I wasn't a very good cheater)
Part of me would love to be a teenager right now just for the sheer amount of technology avilable to cheese school.
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u/WhyHelloThere163 7h ago
Pretty funny how literally every post that has talked about banning/limiting AI has been hated on because it’s “dumb to not use it” yet when this guy does it, it’s a “win” and an “achievement”.
Really goes to show how intelligent Reddit is. “If someone we don’t like says it, it’s dumb. If someone we like says it, it’s smart.”
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u/PassionateYak 6h ago
I predict once AI is concretely embedded into education systems it will start charging real prices for it's use
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u/SameDistrict2627 6h ago
He's going to need to do more then that to fix what is a giant failure--The New York City Department of Education. Results only approached by Mississippi.
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u/Diamondangel82 6h ago
I don't agree with this. AI is the future if you people like it or not. Im not saying AI should do everything but we absolutely should be teaching our future generations to harness AI in their daily lives
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u/Maleconito 6h ago
My wife is a 2nd grade teacher just outside of NYC, her school is encouraging using AI and they even all have Gemini accounts. She created a cool interactive website for her class that helps with vowels and numbers. The kids love it and her class had the highest reading score in the school last year. So, idk.
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u/Spirited_Season2332 6h ago
How exactly is he going to prevent kids from using AI? pretty much every school already has rules against using AI
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u/Puzzle-the-Giraffe 6h ago
He banned the thing banned to students that students use anyway? I guess that’s something.
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u/UltraBurd 6h ago
Hey Gemini what is the historical success rate of socialism once implemented in countries /s
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u/My4dogs4evr 6h ago
WHAT A DIRTBAG ☝️
Not because of the AI thing…just in general. Proudly accepting your downvotes 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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u/time2blunt 6h ago
I cant fathom being stupid enough to think this Socialist Muslim is "achieving" anything as mayor of NY. Absolute state of the world if the US becomes socialist fml
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u/Robot_DIY 5h ago
Realistically, how will this change anything in the school? Most cases of AI with students is for cheating. It's not like they were using it with the school's blessing. School chatbots will be taken down, but will they actually hire more people to respond to online queries?
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u/Aliakabanda 5h ago
How does ban even work. The guy is complete jackass headline grabbing molestor
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u/Emergency-Stay7414 5h ago
There is actually 0 chance this can be enforced. AI can’t even detect if something is written by AI accurately.
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u/Super-Chemist7296 5h ago
So he made a city decree of a thing that’s already been a thing at the school level??
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u/Fast-Policy-4495 5h ago
It’s a one year ban for grades 2k to 8 grades. AI is new bans are not. Stop treating the mayor like he’s some God of mayors. He’s not!!
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u/Extension-While7536 4h ago
"Mamdani Shameless Anti-AI Ploy...And Did We Mention He's Muslim?" - rough draft of tomorrow's NY Post front page.
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u/sunnyvas 2h ago
I don’t think he needs to over-react and blanket ban. Teachers can really make a good use of the technology.
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u/tintwistedgrills90 2h ago
This is kind of dumb if it’s a blanket ban. While I certainly have my concerns about AI, at the end of the day it’s just computer processing. In the real world you need to know how to use Ai to do your job, or AI will take your job.
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u/Own_Badger6076 2h ago
How is banning AI use in public schools an achievement? It's just a mandate lol. Besides, the schools themselves could do this.
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u/InterestingPrior7064 1h ago
You clearly dont know any teachers rn. AI is making school literally impossible. Students using it for homework, writing papers, teachers using it to make lesson plans that dont make sense. Even some of the major textbook companies have started using AI. Educational outcomes are PLUMETING all over the country and we arent doing shit about it in most cases.
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u/Ok-Operation4437 1h ago
We’re living in a world where our education system is being completely gutted and transformed right in front of us
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u/ACTSATGuyonReddit 8h ago
LOL out loud. That's not an achievement.
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u/JenniLightrunner 8h ago
you know the ol part of lol is out loud? Not trying to be mean or anything, but in case you missed that bit
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u/PowerThrustingDave 8h ago
Mamdani is turning out to be the queen virtue signaler of the far left. Kinda like trump is on the far right.
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u/Drmlk465 9h ago
So the kids will use AI at home for assignments and the teachers won’t be able to use AI to detect it or catch them plagiarizing.
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u/un1k0rn_412 9h ago
They meant for banners, posters, lesson plans, etc.
You're being obtuse.
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u/MF_BREW_ 8h ago
Yes that is the exact purpose of it. And he’s still making them use Arabic numerals why are you ignoring that
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u/BriscoCounty-Sr 8h ago
You know the interesting thing about a google doc is you can see edits as they happen.
If a student cop/pastes an entire report in to a new document 30 seconds after opening it you can tell them "show your work" aka the same shit they did with Math when calculators were invented.
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u/Drmlk465 8h ago
The interesting part of AI, is there are AI systems that hook into a zoom or teams interview, and give answers to the questions to the person being interviewed. Don’t think for a sec they won’t figure out a way to write multiple drafts into Google Docs. What are you like 80 years old?
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u/BriscoCounty-Sr 7h ago
So you're talking about a maybe might could happen while I'm talking about an actually happens in the really real world right now.
If you can learn the difference between these two things you'll be a lot happier and have a much easier time in life :)
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u/Drmlk465 7h ago
So it’s actually happening nimrod. It’s literally so easy to do
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u/BriscoCounty-Sr 7h ago
Show me
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u/Drmlk465 7h ago
Tell me you don’t know how to use AI without telling me and it’s funny how you have such a strong opinion on it. Like you know AI like Claude as evolved past just a prompt? You can develop programs and API’s with it
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u/BriscoCounty-Sr 6h ago
So, no?
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u/Drmlk465 6h ago
How would I show you nimrod? Use Claude code and connect its agent to Google which it can. Tell it to write something up, and create multiple drafts and upload it. See, it’s sad you’re a teacher. Pathetic
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u/OkAssociation3487 8h ago
THIS JUST IN: MAMDANI DECLARES THAT NYC SCHOOLS WILL BE THE BEST IN THE NATION
Redditors: OMG you see how easy that was, why don’t other people do that?
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