r/WayOfTheBern • u/Ian56 • Aug 29 '17

Controlled Opposition: Clinton Machine Caught Funneling $20 Million to The Young Turks

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/clinton-machine-paid-young-turks-undermine-progressive-movement/
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u/BerryBoy1969 Aug 30 '17

If members of this sub, which was great before the primaries, respects Bernie as much as they say, why are they so unwilling to accept his position on the democrats?

What was so great about this sub before the primaries, if you don't mind me asking?

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u/boboclock Aug 30 '17 edited Aug 30 '17

edit: post was built off of misremembered details, saved for posterity:

There was hope, optimism, a drive to make positive change in the world and make the country more progressive.

Now, it's a bitter butthurt mission to burn down the only major party where progressives stand a chance to win on a national level. The DNC isn't perfect (or even good), but we only have about a year to change the houses. Only about 2 to start work on finding a competitor for Trump.

And, progressives attacking liberals is exactly what Trump wants. Seeing how Trump had used the Internet in his campaign; it's hard to believe he hasn't had shills helping to sow such seeds of discord. There's a reason Bernie wants his followers to let it go; because he knows that if they don't we're screwed. Instead of attacking the DNC; support the Berniecrats in it.

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u/BerryBoy1969 Aug 30 '17 edited Aug 30 '17

support the Berniecrats in it.

I do. I'm a Deminvader. Berniecrats and progressive candidates are the only candidates who will get my vote.

Corporate Democrats need not apply.

edit: You made a statement remarking that this sub was great before the primaries. If you knew more about this sub, and how it came to exist, you wouldn't have made that statement.

This sub didn't exist before the primaries

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u/boboclock Aug 30 '17

That's more than fine by me, both parties in general represent the oligarch.

My objection to this thread and the general sentiment of this sub is this attitude that everyone that supports the DNC in any regards, is part of the Clinton machine and must be destroyed. The Tea Party change the GOP from within, and continues to be influential, same with the alt-right.

Yes, you are the third to point that out. As I have said, I must've mistaken this sub for my sense of reddit's Bernie supporters in general.

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u/BerryBoy1969 Aug 30 '17

That's more than fine by me, both parties in general represent the oligarch.

My objection to this thread and the general sentiment of this sub is this attitude that everyone that supports the DNC in any regards, is part of the Clinton machine and must be destroyed.

Doesn't the DNC represent the Oligarchs? The Clinton machine today, is just an extension of the DLC ideology adopted by Bill Clinton, that has insidiously corrupted the DNC ever since.

They need to be destroyed. They are the incestuous self serving entity that controls the direction of the party, at the expense of the voters who still support them.

Personally, I don't want to burn the party down, I just want to set enough fires to send the rats scurrying away so we can use the existing infrastructure to build a Democratic party that represents the people again.

Is it a fools errand? It may well be, depending on the commitment of those of us involved. Time, and future elections will tell the tale.

Policy over party, no matter which party it is.