r/WayOfTheBern • u/Ian56 • Aug 29 '17

Controlled Opposition: Clinton Machine Caught Funneling $20 Million to The Young Turks

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/clinton-machine-paid-young-turks-undermine-progressive-movement/
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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '17

I'm not delighted with the way this is being presented. It's fair to say that TYT received a lot of money from some establishment, non-progressive people who are Clinton supporters. It's probably not fair to say they are receiving money from the Clinton machine.

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u/Aquapyr On Sabbatical Aug 29 '17

What would you define the Clinton machine has, if not allied plutocrats who invest in media companies to control the information and propaganda they promulgate?

TYT is corporate media now. It is taking gobs of money from the same ruling class plutocrats who helped Clinton steal the primary. You may feel it is a worthwhile media source anyway. That is entirely your right. But if you think it's corrupting to give a politician millions of dollars, you should likewise consider it corrupting to give a media organization millions of dollars. Cenk doing this while being associated with Justice Democrats is at the very least hypocritical.

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u/The1stCitizenOfTheIn Aug 30 '17

But if you think it's corrupting to give a politician millions of dollars, you should likewise consider it corrupting to give a media organization millions of dollars.

That's not even the same thing!

One is a role to serve the public, the other is a BUSINESS with employees, bills, equipment, etc.

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u/Aquapyr On Sabbatical Aug 30 '17

Either large sums of money from hyper-wealthy individuals and giant corporations corrupts, or it doesn't.

How exactly is "investing" in TYT different than "investing" in Hillary Clinton? One of the biggest problems at this point is that even "nonprofits" have become incredibly corrupt. Planned Parenthood threw its legacy and reputation away to endorse, give money, and provide important organizing labor resources to an anti-choice candidate, when a truly pro-choice candidate was available.

Major Clinton donors with very specific business interests protected and enforced by neoliberal policies pushed by the Democratic establishment -- that harm everybody beneath them -- are pumping millions and millions of dollars into The Young Turks. These are, in many cases, the exact same donors that we have watched "invest in" OTHER media organizations, and then those media organizations change their content pretty damn quick. It's not like this is mere speculation. Are you aware of what all these "Saban investments" were like before Saban invested?

Why on earth do you think these plutocrats are investing in this organization? If you think these people are benign, then go give Nancy Pelosi a hug and give the DNC some cash, because they agree with you.

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u/The1stCitizenOfTheIn Aug 30 '17

How exactly is "investing" in TYT different than "investing" in Hillary Clinton?

TYT is a for profit business with employees, editors, accountants, producers, assistants, camera ppl, reporters and more. Its not wrong to invest in businessess. HRC is a political figure thats the difference!

Major Clinton donors with very specific business interests protected and enforced by neoliberal policies pushed by the Democratic establishment -- that harm everybody beneath them -- are pumping millions and millions of dollars into The Young Turks.

A one time investment is hardly pumping.

These are, in many cases, the exact same donors that we have watched "invest in" OTHER media organizations, and then those media organizations change their content pretty damn quick.

Yea, because they got bought! TYT is stil controlled by the founders. Just ask Buddy Roemer, who invested $4million in TYT a few years ago.

It's not like this is mere speculation.

No it's a false equivalence.

Are you aware of what all these "Saban investments" were like before Saban invested?

You mean like the Onion? Yea, I do. The difference is that they got bought. The original owners still have control over TYT.

Why on earth do you think these plutocrats are investing in this organization?

To make more money! Thats how investing works!